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Old 11-18-2012, 06:33 AM
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Isn't Schacjkenborg also owned by Joachim?
Yes, but Schackenborg is owned by Joachim and not the DRF. - I can only imagine the manor going to one of Frederik's children in the horrible eventuality that all Joachim's children die - or more likely none of them want to run Schackenborg.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:36 AM
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This thread is meant to discuss Danish royal residences, not to predict the future countries of residence of (royal) children. Those interested in discussing clairvoyance can go to this forum:
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:19 AM
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I don't remember which interview I read it in, I think it was the book published for the Jubilee, but Queen Margrethe very clearly stated that she intends to pass Graasten on to Frederik & Mary while she's still alive. So the only speculation regarding that residence is when Margrethe decides it's the right time to do it.
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Aren´t all of you forgetting that CP Frederik is getting Gråsten? :)
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:28 PM
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Aren´t all of you forgetting that CP Frederik is getting Gråsten? :)
You mean it's earmarked for his future use?? ! I plead guilty of ignorance, if that's been decided already! IIRC I read somewhere that Frederik will inherit Chateau de Cayx, which of course also serves as as a sort of back- up should Denmark ever become a republic.

It just leaves a rhetorical question: How many palaces are Fred and Mary going to take over and actually make use of, when their time comes?

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:56 AM
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You mean it's earmarked for his future use?? ! I plead guilty of ignorance, if that's been decided already! IIRC I read somewhere that Frederik will inherit Chateau de Cayx, which of course also serves as as a sort of back- up should Denmark ever become a republic.

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Of course It´s earmarked for his future use

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It just leaves a rhetorical question: How many palaces are Fred and Mary going to take over and actually make use of, when their time comes?
Well, my guess is: Amalienborg, Fredensborg (whether it´s Kancellihuset or the main castle IDK), Marselisborg, Trend, Gråsten and Caïx.
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:25 AM
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Here is a 23 pic gallery from the bunker REGAN East: Se de fantastiske billeder: Her er atombunkeren i Nordsjælland | www.bt.dk

Located in a forest in Northern Zealand this was were the Regent Couple where to go in case of war or something similar... Certainly after REGAN West was closed down.

It is about to be closed down. The new REGAN bunker is located somewhere in central Jutland.
In the early 90's an artist was brought in to decorate the bunker, presumably for psycological reasons but if I was cooped up in a bunker like this the sight of these strong colors would seriously drive me nuts! - I think it's over the top. But then again, who knows? Perhaps the psycologist had a point. The mere thought is actually pretty chilling.

By the way, the text in pic #10 reads: You can also regret, that you regretted.
The text in pic #18 reads: Time does not go, it comes.

I lived in Aarhus towards the end of the Cold War and there the bunker containing the Navy Operational Command is located. And I remember agreeing with a friend that the most sensible thing to do, should the baloon go up, would be to buy a case of beer and go sit as close to the fence as possible and wait...
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It sure is bright in that bunker with all those colours!!!
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:42 AM
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Let's go through the bunkers again, because it can be a bit confusing!

During the Cold War a large bunker was build in north central Jutland. That was called REGAN West. Here the Regent Couple were to go in case of an emergency, along with other key figures. Back then Frederik was just a child, so he would follow his parents.

Later on another bunker was build in Northern Zealand, called REGAN East. It was decided that the Regent Couple should go here, while Frederik (still unmarried) should go to another bunker located somewhere in central Jutland.
At the same time REGAN West was being shut down.

Now REGAN East is being shut down as well - but the bunker in central Jutland is still operational.
It is said to be located near the village of Finderup. Ironic, because Finderup is also the seat of the most well known assassination of a Danish King in history. - The Murder in Finderup Barn in 1286, where King Erik Klipping was murdered under circumstances that to this day is still hotly debated and very fascinating. But that's a story for another day.

And as a litte curiosum: Last year a large air raid shelter located very close to Schackenborg was put up for sale.

Underneat Christiansborg there is also a shelter, where some government ministers as well as MPs were to stay, protected mainly by a company from the Army Home Guard.
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Those bright colors are indeed interesting, are we sure prince Henrik wasnt involved in the design or the queen? : ) lol

I do like the trees around it, so pretty
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:35 AM
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There doesn't appear to be a seperate thread for the hunting lodge in Trend.
Perhaps such tread should be created? - Since M&F spend time there three or four times a year.

If so I'll add a Google view and the usual background info.

Here are four pics of the hunting lodge from different angles.
As you can see it's located in the middle of a forest.

http://www.seoghoer.dk/Nyheder/Royal...BCAE06A09.ashx

http://www.aalestrupclassic.dk/image...en-2010-47.jpg

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/ar...6__561644m.jpg

http://i2-images3.tv2net.dk/s/56/224...965322c80.jpeg

ADDED: I checked on Google maps. Quite a few of the trees to the north and west of the lodge have been cut down. - That's what happens in forestry, new ones will grow up.
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thank you Muhler.

I really like it. Perfect for an outdoorsy family like Frederik and Mary. and for the 4 kids plus Ziggy to run around in.

This is own by the DRF? Do others besides F&M use it often?
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Polyesco, I can add that King Frederik IX, Queen Ingrid and their three princesesses used Trend a lot, when the princesesses were kids :)

I haven´t heard that QMII/PH or PJ/PssM uses it.
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:30 PM
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As far as I know no one but M&F are currently using Trend.

But with four children I think we can rest assured that at least some of them will also be visiting when they become adults.

Perhaps they'll spot a wolf? Not sure if wolves have been confirmed this far north, but then it will only be a matter of time. The forests and moores around Trend is perfect for a wolf.
It may surprise some but Denmark is fairly forested. At present a little more than 13% of DK is forest, with even more being semi-woodland. The political aim is that 20-25 % of DK will be forest within a few years.
That comes from an all time low in the 1600's where only 4 % of DK was forest.
A very large part of the old as well as new forest is located in north-central Jutland. So when the twins will be in their late teens, they will be able to go for some serious hikes in the forests around Trend.
The European Bison has also been reintroduced to DK, so again, M&F's children may encounter some when visiting Trend in some fifteen-twenty years from now.
The Golden Eagle is now breeding happily (and pretty enthusiastically too I might add!) after having all but vanished from the scenery here. - The Golden Eagle is in Danish called Kongeørn = king-eagle, very appropriately. And both Christian and Frederik have jokingly been referred to as a kongeørn from time to time.
When you, as a child, is used to the big city, this is about as far out into the wild as you can get here in DK.
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Polyesco, I can add that King Frederik IX, Queen Ingrid and their three princesesses used Trend a lot, when the princesesses were kids :)

I haven´t heard that QMII/PH or PJ/PssM uses it.
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As far as I know no one but M&F are currently using Trend.

But with four children I think we can rest assured that at least some of them will also be visiting when they become adults.

Perhaps they'll spot a wolf? Not sure if wolves have been confirmed this far north, but then it will only be a matter of time. The forests and moores around Trend is perfect for a wolf.
It may surprise some but Denmark is fairly forested. At present a little more than 13% of DK is forest, with even more being semi-woodland. The political aim is that 20-25 % of DK will be forest within a few years.
That comes from an all time low in the 1600's where only 4 % of DK was forest.
A very large part of the old as well as new forest is located in north-central Jutland. So when the twins will be in their late teens, they will be able to go for some serious hikes in the forests around Trend.
The European Bison has also been reintroduced to DK, so again, M&F's children may encounter some when visiting Trend in some fifteen-twenty years from now.
The Golden Eagle is now breeding happily (and pretty enthusiastically too I might add!) after having all but vanished from the scenery here. - The Golden Eagle is in Danish called Kongeørn = king-eagle, very appropriately. And both Christian and Frederik have jokingly been referred to as a kongeørn from time to time.
When you, as a child, is used to the big city, this is about as far out into the wild as you can get here in DK.
As Always Muhler, thank you for the extra dose of Danish history and facts.
I truly enjoy it.

The place sounds wonderful. A great time off away from the city
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:53 PM
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Thank you Muhler. I have a question for you or any of the other Danish members:

The increase in forested areas. Are some of these for commercial forestries or is it mainly a push by the government to encourage land owners to re-forest their land for environmental purposes?

The property in Trend looks perfect for a relaxing getaway.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:54 AM
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Thank you Muhler. I have a question for you or any of the other Danish members:

The increase in forested areas. Are some of these for commercial forestries or is it mainly a push by the government to encourage land owners to re-forest their land for environmental purposes?

The property in Trend looks perfect for a relaxing getaway.
It is mainly an environmental initiative. In order to recreate so much genuine nature as possible.
But it's also a way to utillize marginal yield farmland or patches of farmland that is being encroached near the urban centres. Such patches of lands are often too small for a new owner to continue or too awkwardly placed for an industrialised farm. So quite a few "old McDonald" farms have been bought by the municipalities, raised, trees planted and fifteen years later there is a low forest there. - Now in the middle of a suburb.

In the countryside most small farms have been raised or converted into hobbyfarms. Medium sized farms, not least those who specialise, do fairly well, although many struggle. They simply have no use for low-yield land. Better to sell it to the state or turn it into a small forest/wilderness themselves and earn some extra on hunting.
Then there are the large industrialised farms i.e. pork-factories, poultry-factories, fir-plantations and large areas of high-yield fields. And they often also include private forests for hunting and forestation.
Schackenborg and Frijsenborg are examples of two such major farms with varied lands. While I understand Birkelse Gods is more focused on being a dairy factory.

All state forests are open to the public, although some forestation takes place. But forestation it's hardly the most profitable business and once a forest has started to grow it needs very little manpower to manage. Not least because this is coastal climate and as such the forest fires we have are very limited and easily contained anyway.
But the main thing is that it benefits the Danes and tourists. It's simply nice to have so much nature and so close.
It may surprise many how much wildlife there really is in DK and how close it is to people. Deers are encountered regularly way into the suburbs of the major cities. The same thing goes for badgers and foxes. It's not something to write home about if you encounter one in your backyard. Until the wolves returned just a couple of years ago, the most dangerous predator in DK was the car, so humans are merely an irritant to many animals.

One of the main reasons I believe hunting is no issue here in DK and indeed is widely accepted, is the closeness to nature. Unless you live in downtown Copenhagen, you can exerience genuine wildlife within a very comfortable bicycle distance. The number of hunters are going up, not least among those who live in the cities - and who want to enjoy the nature. One of the more popular TV-shows is about a hunter and a cook, who (hopefully) shoot a specific animal and then they prepare and cook it basically on the spot. Kindergartens often get a visit from a hunter, who bring a deer and break it so the children can see how a deer looks like inside and they learn about about deers and what they eat at the same time. And most people know someone or several who hunt so the concept of culling is natural to most people.
I don't hunt myself, but I know quite a few who hunt (either with guns or cameras) and I have absolutely no qualms about hunting, because nature is much more merciless when it comes to dealing with overpopulation of animals.

Mrs. Muhler is into ornithology and when we go for a walk (living in a village there is quite a lot of nature around) it increase the experience and the sense of feeling good when she points out something. And she can tell how birdlife has changed significantly in her lifetime, - even out here in hillbilly-land.
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Many thanks Muhler for a very insightful post. Your depth of detail much appreciated.

Yes there is hunting and culling here too when animals become too numerous - including kangaroos. Kangaroo meat is available at the supermarket and I've tried it once or twice. Very tasty and enjoyable but I can't help visualising a 'roo when I eat it!

Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the subject.
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There doesn't appear to be a seperate thread for the hunting lodge in Trend.
Perhaps such tread should be created? - Since M&F spend time there three or four times a year.

If so I'll add a Google view and the usual background info.

Here are four pics of the hunting lodge from different angles.
As you can see it's located in the middle of a forest.

http://www.seoghoer.dk/Nyheder/Royal...BCAE06A09.ashx

http://www.aalestrupclassic.dk/image...en-2010-47.jpg

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/ar...6__561644m.jpg

http://i2-images3.tv2net.dk/s/56/224...965322c80.jpeg

ADDED: I checked on Google maps. Quite a few of the trees to the north and west of the lodge have been cut down. - That's what happens in forestry, new ones will grow up.


Thanks for the pictures on Trend. I didn't realize how large it is.
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Frederiksborg Palace

Frederiksborg Palace is built on a series of islands in a small lake in the city of Hillerød not far from the royal residence Fredensborg Palace. The earliest accounts of a palace in this place dates back to 1275. This palace was called Hillerødsholm and it was owned by the influential aristocratic family Gøye. In 1560 it became the property of the crown and Frederik II started rebuilding the palace. In 1577 Frederiks queen Sophie gave birth to their first born son who at the tender age of 11 succeeded his father as King Christian IV. He would be known for initiating the construction of several grand buildings in Denmark. This ambition almost brought the country to the brink of bankruptcy. He had the old Frederiksborg Palace raised to the ground and from 1600 – 1620 the new renaissance palace was build. During the years of construction Christian IV lived in a small palace overlooking the construction site. This palace was called Sparepenge which translates to 'Savings'. In 1720 'Savings' was demolished and a formal baroque garden was put in its place.
Frederiksborg Palace is the largest renaissance Palace in Scandinavia and it is sometimes referred to as the Versailles of the North which is probably a bit of a stretch. For all Frederiksborg's splendours it was never really popular as a permanent residence for the DRF. It was considered to be too far from the Copenhagen. After the death of Christian IV the palace was mostly used for ceremonial events. The palace church was the scene of the anointment of several royal heads

1671: Christian V and Charlotte Amalie of Hesse-Kassel
1700: Frederick IV and Louise of Mecklenburg-Güstrow
1721: Anna Sophia, consort of Frederick IV
1731: Christian VI and Sophia Magdalena of Brandenburg-Kulmbach
1747: Frederick V and Louise of Great Britain
1752: Juliana Maria of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, consort of Frederick V
1815: Frederick VI and Marie of Hesse-Kassel
1840: Christian VIII and Caroline Amalie of Schleswig-Holstein

The palace church serves as the chapel for the 2 highest Danish orders. Recipients of the Order of Dannebrog and the Order of the Elephant have their coat of arms mounted on the walls of the church. As a knight of the Order of the Elephant the late Nelson Mandela also had his coat of arms mounted in Frederiksborg Palace Church. The wedding of Prince Joachim and Alexandra Manley took place in the palace church on 1995. (here is a link to a broadcast of the wedding – I don't know for how long this link will remain valid Bryllup - Joachim og Alexandra - dr.dk/Bonanza). After their divorce QMII gave Alex the new title 'Countess of Frederiksborg' – maybe as a reference to the place of the wedding ceremony.
It is a tradition that the reigning monarch has his/her portrait hung in the Grand Hall of Frederiksborg Palace.

Today Frederiksborg Palace is museum a museum well worth a visit

...I have read elsewhere on this page that the DRF also has a Palace in Roskilde - there is no palace in Roskilde, so I guess whoever wrote it was thinking of Frederiksborg.

Here's a few links with some very nice photos
Frederiksborg Slot - Wikipedia, den frie encyklopædi
The Museum Of National History
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