Dman
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I'm glad the State Visit hasn't been cancelled.
Maybe the King of Spain and Queen Letizia can stop by at a polling station on June 8 to see British democracy in action ? And, of course, government ministers and the PM will take time off from their campaign schedules two days before the election to meet and have dinner with the Spanish royal couple and other members of the Spanish delegation! Again, I find it hard to believe.
In any case, Don Felipe will now most certainly not address the UK parliament, as parliament will be dissolved and MPs will be out campaigning in their constituencies (British English for parliamentary districts).
Agree! And the media coverage will be even lesser than usual.Agree with this 100%. Whitehall will be empty. Pointless visit.
Spanish Government might also think its pointless as well.
I think this visit, already ceremonial, will become totally pointless without a full fledged administration. What commitments/negotiations can happen between the delegations?What's the point of the King and Queen shaking hands and reciting speeches about "shared history"..And in run up for elections, it won't even receive modest coverage, except for some fashion enthusiasts drooling over Kate's and letizias gowns and tiaras.. and our dearest Dman once again lamenting what an injustice it is that Kate was still not given an ivory-free RFO.. JMO..
Hey Dman! Ain't it grand that people around here know (and respect) someone that sticks to his convictions?
To the contrary, this visit between Spain and the UK reminds us all that things are not always political or have a political aim behind it. Its what makes a monarch pertinent in this day and age. Relationships between countries are not solely on a political basis. Here in the US, no matter what a politcian or the president does, goes or tweets about, there's always some political innuendo assigned to it.
The Spanish Royal House takes visits very seriously, they are very institutional and make few concessions to activities for the photo. In their visits to Mexico, France or Portugal, they visited all the important institutions of the country and the King spoke in the national assembly. A poor visit, without meetings with the main institutions of the country or speech in the parliament ... is the antithesis to the way in which the Spanish Royal House organizes visits.
Perhaps May wants the Spanish government to cancel the visit by offering a poor agenda... so she can say that the responsibility is not of her government.
Nothing is going to change with the election. Theresa May will still be Prime Minster, just with a much larger majority.
It's probably why the visit will continue as scheduled.
Nothing is going to change with the election. Theresa May will still be Prime Minster, just with a much larger majority.
It's probably why the visit will continue as scheduled.
It the Spanish State Visit goes on it simply exposes the monarchy as a total meaningless puppet theatre. (It is, but no need to stress it). Despite her numerous pledges that there would not be a a snap election, the outgoing PM simply sets all and everyone for a fait accompli. The Queen is confronted with an outgoing Government and all MP's campaigning in their constituencies. The King of Spain will be welcomed by a Whitehall in campaign mode with extra tensions because of Brexit (including the dispute about Gibraltar and the rights of masses of Britons residing in Spain, including the strong nationalistic sentiments in Scotland and Ireland who have a double agenda). When the State Visit "simply" goes on, it is a sign how au sérieux this is taken: zero comma zero.
When the State Visit "simply" goes on, it is a sign how au sérieux this is taken: zero comma zero.
It was stupid to call an election around the same time of a big State Visit. I'm sure they could've scheduled the election at lest a week after. That's like scheduling surgery around the same day you have to go to work.
Frankly, according to reports May decided to call this election after some careful thinking this bank holiday weekend and informed The Queen on Monday of her decision.
Whilst I agree that a GE is important, we were by no means expecting one to happen. But we were expecting a state visit from a King and Queen of Europe, the amount of planning that has gone in to that etc, frankly on some level someone in the palace is very annoyed that this GE is ruining the State Visit.
If you can fit a general election, around The Queens engagements (which frankly I doubt is the case), you can fit it around a State Visit, one that's already been cancelled once.
It's not up to The Queen whether this visit goes ahead, it's the choice of the government. Frankly if anything it make the whole situation easier for everyone, nobodies going to pop up in parliament and shout Gibraltar at someone.
What does King Felipe's address to the UK parliament change/improve/affect?IMO for the Spanish government Felipe addressing parliament was the real highlight of the visit what is now not possible, the rest would go more or less unnoticed, in Spanish and especially in UK media.
What does King Felipe's address to the UK parliament change/improve/affect?
As Lumutqueen wrote, It's not up to HM.I will be truly amazed if this goes ahead, as well as concerned that HM has taken leave of her senses.
A state visit like this always goes unnoticed on British television with the exception of a visit from the US/China (and Japan/Ireland due to the special circumstances), but Getty Images will of course publish many videos and pictures, ITN SOURCE will also publish some videos, Daily Fail vill publish articles with many pictures (less than usual, due to the election) and we may see some clips on BBC One/ITV television news (less than usual, due to the election) - see post 175.IMO for the Spanish government Felipe addressing parliament was the real highlight of the visit what is now not possible, the rest would go more or less unnoticed, in Spanish and especially in UK media.