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Old 03-27-2016, 08:21 PM
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It's not meant to be a hard-hitting documentary. It's a tribute to a national leader on her 90th birthday! There's enough bad news out there.
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:34 PM
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If you look back to the jubilees of Queen Victoria and King George V, though admittedly there was no TV, no internet, the media that existed was just as sacherine in its tributes. We've never had a 90 year old on the British throne to compare the reception given to Elizabeth on reaching her milestone. After the Queen's death (and may it be many moons away) there will undoubtedly be some documentaries reflecting the more sober events of her reign.
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:45 PM
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To be honest I got cracks in my fillings seeing the one laudatio to the other dripping from sugarsweet fondant. Yes, she is the Most Wonderful, Most Adorable, Most Righteous of us all. I had to look to the corner to see the logo, that I was not watching the birthday-program of Kim Jong-Il by accident.

I missed some balance. The turmoil her nation is in, the threats from all sides, the royal family in a fast-changing world and media-landscape. The tragedies (Bloody Sunday, Hillsborough, the Herald of Free Enterprise, the London Bombings, the death of Diana). Nothing. Only roses and moonshine. Only cherubins and seraphins on little pinky clouds singing the praise of Elizabeth The Magnificent.... The Holy Virgin almost looked pale next to her, if you heard the litany of praises. Good heavens!
1: I try to be polite, but this quote from you is just ridiculous.

2: The UK is not in turmoil, and there are not threats from all sides.

3: This has been discussed several times before in other documentaries. And her actions during Diana's death was admirable. She took care of her grandchildren.

4: I've talked to my British mother and a British friend on the phone and they think it was too little praise.

She is simply THE QUEEN and she is an international icon and the embodiment of royalty. She has dedicated her life to the UK and the Commonwealth, and have spent the last 63 years building relations and friendship between nations. She's was known as the world top diplomat until at least 2011 (when she almost stopped traveling) She was also with her parents, sister and Winston Churchill a symbol of peace during World War II. (There wasn't much about that.)

She has a good relationship with her staff, and care about them. (There wasn't much about that either.)

Why wasn't there more praise/criticism from experts/politicians? Because this was not that kind of documentary. This was about what her family thinks.
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Old 03-27-2016, 09:57 PM
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Do you know if it's possible to watch the documentary after it has aired?
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Old 03-27-2016, 10:21 PM
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Watch it now before youtube/ITV removes it.
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Old 03-27-2016, 11:31 PM
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Just finished watching it on YouTube. I thought it was nice. Very similar to Our Queen which was written by the same person who did this one. The diplomatic reception scenes were interesting because that's something we haven't seen. The state dinners, investitures, garden party preparation we have seen it before.

I liked the choice of using Olivia Coleman as the narrator.


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Old 03-28-2016, 12:01 AM
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I've just watched it as well. My takeaways:

1. Sophie has the best camera presence. Not surprising with her media background.

2. Beatrice is very sweet when talking about her grandparents.

3. Beatrice and Eugenie definitely get their mannerisms and way of speaking from Sarah instead of Andrew.

4. The Queen surrounds herself with quality staff at the Palace. They were more charming than the Royals themselves, and I don't mean that as a dig at the Royals.

5. The documentary heavily relied on her grandchildren. You can tell the documentary maker was trying to appeal to the younger demographic. But personally I feel that The Queen's children should have been given more focus. Along with Philip they are the ones who support her the most. So it was sad to see Charles and Andrew give just brief soundbites. Anne's family in particular was underrepresented.

6. It was nice to hear from Nicola and Obama! I'm glad they didn't leave it at Cameron, like usual. I don't like him much.
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Old 03-28-2016, 12:49 AM
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Watch it now before youtube/ITV removes it.
Thanks for posting.

I think it was edited to showcase William and Catherine.
I was a bit disappointed. They should have focused more on the Queen.

Princess Anne & Prince Edward were not included. I have a hard time believing that both chose not to participate. I tend to think that their comments were not included in the broadcast.

I enjoyed Beatrice's comments, Camilla's comments and Andrew's.

The television crew did not even bother to allow Charles or Camilla to sit down. That says alot about the type of interview and the amount of time the crew was willing to invest in interviewing Charles or Camilla. One has to wonder how they treated Anne or Edward that they ended up on the cutting room floor.
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Old 03-28-2016, 12:58 AM
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More deserved praise for our amazing monarch:

The Queen At 90 had positive response on Twitter as viewers loved hilarious cushion | Daily Mail Online
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'It's good to be Queen!' Heart-warming moment viewers spot humorous cushion in Her Majesty's living room at Balmoral during documentary marking her 90th birthday

It was a landmark television documentary that offered a glimpse of the Queen as the world seldom sees her.

And eagle-eyed viewers were quick to pick up on just one of the heart-warming moments, spotting a humorous cushion in Her Majesty's living room at Balmoral which read: 'It's good to be Queen!'

Her regal charm was also evident in a scene at Sandringham stables, laughing at how one of her 'prima donna' ponies repeatedly spat out a carrot.

The documentary Our Queen At 90 - marking Elizabeth II's birthday - was a hit with viewers, with many taking to Twitter to share their favourite moments.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:43 AM
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I enjoyed the doc. It's was mainly a family tribute to their mother and grandmother. I like that the doc was made to appeal to the younger generation. I got the sense that William and Catherine are being groomed for their future roles by Her Majesty.

Of course, we knew ahead of time of the members of the family that participated in the doc. The younger royals was the main feature. Again, a sign that the focus is turning to the young generation and future leaders of the "firm".

I know people like to paint William has a man who would like to throw the monarchy in the garbage and live a normal life, but in this doc, I sense he and Catherine are paying attention to the examples of The Queen and know how important royal duties are. I don't see them running away from it, but embracing it by leaning.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:13 AM
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While it is great to see the younger generation (maybe Zara and even Louise could have said something), I wish they had included all of her kids. The focus was on the 'family' and yet neither Anne or Edward were a part of it. William and his generation don't come next. Time enough to focus on Will/Kate when Charles is king. Would have been great to see a bit more focus on the queen's children and mention of her other grandkids, and great grandkids. How about Mia, Savannah and Isla? Only George and Charlotte got mention.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:36 AM
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It may be that Anne and Edward's schedules didn't allow them to participate. It is time to focus on the younger generation though. They are the ones that's starting help out the (nearly) 90 year old Queen and a (nearly) 95 year old grandfather.
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It may be that Anne and Edward's schedules didn't allow them to participate. It is time to focus on the younger generation though. They are the ones that's starting help out the (nearly) 90 year old Queen and a (nearly) 95 year old grandfather.
That documentary was filmed over a period of time. Months. Certainly Anne and Edward could have found time. Sophie certainly did.


They are starting to help??? And what are the senior royals doing drinking tea and going on vacation Anne certainly has been 'helping' her parents for decades, with numbers that rival Charles. Edward certainly does as well, not as high as Anne. Considering he is taking over the DOE awards the last how many years. They certainly do a lot more than any of the grandchildren do.

The point was this was not a documentary about the passing of reigns to the next generation. It was about the Queen and her family. And it would be nice to see her entire family.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:54 AM
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It may be that Anne and Edward's schedules didn't allow them to participate. It is time to focus on the younger generation though. They are the ones that's starting help out the (nearly) 90 year old Queen and a (nearly) 95 year old grandfather.
The documentary was about the people who knew the Queen the best.

I think her daughter Anne would qualify more than William, Harry, and Catherine combined.
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Old 03-28-2016, 03:02 AM
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Yeah, but I'm sure Anne and Edward knew this doc was being made. So, if they could've participated in reflecting on their mother's birthday, they would've done an interview.

I'm just reflecting on how the younger royals was the big focus of the doc.
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Haven't seen the documentary yet but I have high hopes for it. Our Queen from 2013 was terrific, it's one of the royal documentaries I enjoy to revisit from time to time, so if Our Queen at 90 is just half as good as that, I reckon I'll be very pleased.

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It may be that Anne and Edward's schedules didn't allow them to participate. It is time to focus on the younger generation though. They are the ones that's starting help out the (nearly) 90 year old Queen and a (nearly) 95 year old grandfather.
It's just funny, though, that the exact opposite is said when e.g. William is criticised for not working enough – that he's "only" the HM's grandchild, not her heir, and that HM and Philip "don't need any more help right now".
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It's just funny, though, that the exact opposite is said when e.g. William is criticised for not working enough – that he's "only" the HM's grandchild, not her heir, and that HM and Philip "don't need any more help right now".
They don't need more help. This was the documentary film maker trying to appeal to younger audiences for commercial advertisement. Notice how it was proudly promoted as the first interview by Catherine since the engagement. That's a marketing ploy by ITV producers. That doesn't mean that Catherine is more important than The Queen, or Philip, or any of The Queen's children. She isn't.

When the tabloids write 90% of their royal articles about the personal lives of William/Harry/Catherine/Beatrice/Eugenie, that doesn't mean those five are the pillars of the BRF. It means the media is shallow, and they get more money selling advertisement to young adults, and thus they make young royals the click bait for their young adult readers. ITV just decided to follow The Daily Mail's blueprint for easy cash, nothing more.
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Kate - "I've no idea where she gets her energy from ... i need to go and ask a few more questions"

most would agree


One question: Did the Queen as a Princess back there in Malta as a sailor´s wife do more royal engagements than the DoCambridge today?!
If not so, was she ever critizised in the same harsh manner than Catherine?

Could you imagine the storm of outrage William and Kate would face if they would turn their back o England for a couple of years? And, contrary to Princess Elizabeth, William´s not even immediate heir presumptive to the throne!

Well, I know this is off topic. Just addressing your allusion of "most would agree"
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2: The UK is not in turmoil, and there are not threats from all sides.

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Terrorist threats? Brexit? Immigrants in camps hopelessly trying to reach Britain? Scottish separatism flaring up again? Widening gap between the haves and the have-nots in society? The Chancellor presenting his Budget: an empty red box? The NHS on the verge of a system breakdown?

You sound like King George V. No matter the drama in his country. He would write little else than: "Edinburgh. I wore my blue Field Marshal's uniform and was received by the Lord Marshal. Bed at 11.30".


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Terrorist threats? Brexit? Immigrants in camps hopelessly trying to reach Britain? Scottish separatism flaring up again? Widening gap between the haves and the have-nots in society? The Chancellor presenting his Budget: an empty red box? The NHS on the verge of a system breakdown?

You sound like King George V. No matter the drama in his country. He would write little else than: "Edinburgh. I wore my blue Field Marshal's uniform and was received by the Lord Marshal. Bed at 11.30".


Although I've not watched the documentary yet, the general atmosphere I'm getting from those that have seen it is that it is an hour long testimonial to a legendary woman from the people that know her best. Her children and her grandchildren and some of her staff with a mix of national figures thrown in for good measure. To really get an in depth testimonial from all the people that would have something personal to say about The Queen, it would have to be a documentary running 24/7 for the next week. They had to work with fitting what they had into a specific time slot.

It was about the Queen, herself, at 90 and not about the Queen's government of the day and the issues it faces.
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