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Old 01-29-2019, 06:49 AM
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We have discussed these earrings at some length on this thread. Whilst no new facts appear to have surfaced, I so do hope these earrings were not borrowed from the jeweller, but instead, from a member of the BRF.

In the event that the earrings are indeed borrowed from a jeweller and even if she does not have access to any other jewellery from the BRF (which I am not sure about), she could well have used the earrings she wore for her wedding reception.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:30 AM
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In the event that the earrings are indeed borrowed from a jeweller and even if she does not have access to any other jewellery from the BRF (which I am not sure about), she could well have used the earrings she wore for her wedding reception.
We know she has Diana's butterfly earrings, and there must be some others.

Is there a rule that royals can't borrow? Or is it just a tradition that not everyone follows?

Beatrice and Eugenie borrow from designers, and Sophie once wore a borrowed tiara, so perhaps the rule is not all that rigid.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:00 AM
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How did this come up again? I thought it was long discussed and settled?

And just to review again. We don’t know who she borrowed it from as the company never made a peep about it, which is odd if she borrowed from the jeweler. And other members of BRF have borrowed from jewelers.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:08 AM
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How did this come up again? I thought it was long discussed and settled?
The article says why it's come up again, a blogger had apparently identified where the jewels had come from. Meghans Mirror is the blog in question and here is their identification of the earrings:

Butani Large Diamond Drop Earrings
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:25 AM
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So Daily Fail is not only spreading inaccurate, but also outdated "news" now? Well I am not surprised, that's why I choose to ignore anything come from this so called ridiculous "press"...
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:29 AM
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Is there a rule that royals can't borrow? Or is it just a tradition that not everyone follows?
There is no rule, but it is not common practice in the BRF.

My view is that the senior royals have enough jewellery, and they do not and should not need to borrow jewellery.


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Beatrice and Eugenie borrow from designers, and Sophie once wore a borrowed tiara, so perhaps the rule is not all that rigid.
I know it is a common assumptiuon, but I don't know if it has ever been confirmed by BP that Sophie's tiara was borrowed from a jeweller. It could well have been a previously unseen piece from HM's collection.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:31 AM
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So Daily Fail is not only spreading inaccurate, but also outdated "news" now? Well I am not surprised, that's why I choose to ignore anything come from this so called ridiculous "press"...
I don't see how it's inaccurate as frankly nothing has been denied by anyone. In the images posted which I have just gone back to look at, it's quite clear the earrings are very similar, if not identical. It would be hard to get the exact same setting of very similar jewels, that just happen to look like the ones Butani made in 2016.

My question would be why is Meghan being loaned jewellery a; at all and b; from a collection 2 years ago.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:52 AM
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I think it has been discussed before, to me the most reasonable assumption would be it is a loan from Camilla (or Kate?) rather than directly from the jeweler.

BTW I don't think borrowing piece is a big deal as long as they borrow the right thing for the right occasion when it is needed.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:25 AM
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BTW I don't think borrowing piece is a big deal as long as they borrow the right thing for the right occasion when it is needed.
I think it's frowned on because it makes the royal into a shill for a certain designer.
Even if the designer says nothing, sooner or later the item will be identified, as they are well-aware.

Besides, the Queen owns a vast collection of jewels (although who is allowed to use it is a different story!)
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:34 AM
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Meghan is wearing her Dean Davidson earrings today which are repeats most recently from her visit to The Mayhew:
Today: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPtQIYW0AYbfpR.jpg

Previous: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPwUnCXcAAPw1a.jpg
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:58 PM
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I think Queen Elizabeth II is quite wrong to not pool the jewellery more. The royal ladies pool the jewellery in Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Spain and Liechtenstein and I presume it would be pooled more in Monaco if Princess Charlène would wear the Grimaldi and Princess Grace ice. Therefore, I am sympathetic if the Duchess of Sussex felt any need to borrow from a top jeweller. Lastly, when are we going to see Lady Di's Crown Prince Fahd sapphires, her pearls, gold wristwatch and her other sapphires from the Gulf?
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:26 PM
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Yes, I'm waiting to see more official photo shoots of Meghan in a beautiful gown wearing jewels and a tiara, and also formal pictures of the Duke & Duchess together. It seems there's not a lot of formal photo shoots being done these days by the royals.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:25 PM
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I think the ring Meghan wore to the Endeavour Awards ceremony is gorgeous. Below is a close-up view. It's by Ecksand Cirque -- a light-colored ruby ring with diamonds from an ethical Canadian jewelry brand:
Ecksand Cirque Ruby Ring - Meghan's Mirror

And the earrings Meghan wore:
http://www.meghansmirror.com/wp-cont...m-diamonds.jpg close-up
Vanessa Tugendhaft Precious Earrings; clover-shaped; rose gold cross pattern with diamonds
Vanessa Tugendhaft Precious Earrings - Meghan's Mirror

DoS Meghan wears such delicate, beautifully-detailed and elegant, usually minimalist jewelry.
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:09 AM
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I think Queen Elizabeth II is quite wrong to not pool the jewellery more. The royal ladies pool the jewellery in Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Spain and Liechtenstein and I presume it would be pooled more in Monaco if Princess Charlène would wear the Grimaldi and Princess Grace ice. Therefore, I am sympathetic if the Duchess of Sussex felt any need to borrow from a top jeweller. Lastly, when are we going to see Lady Di's Crown Prince Fahd sapphires, her pearls, gold wristwatch and her other sapphires from the Gulf?

Apparently the Queen doesn't want to pool the jewelry at all!
The DM refers to this, but, consider the source?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ollection.html
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:34 AM
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The Duchess of Sussex has been wearing her mother-in-laws jewels. She haven’t attended a State Banquet and Diplomatic Reception yet, so there’s been no opportunities for her to wear the major family heirlooms.
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:45 AM
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Apparently the Queen doesn't want to pool the jewelry at all!
The DM refers to this, but, consider the source?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ollection.html
Like a lot of articles in the DM, if you squint and look at it sideways you can just barely see the traces of actual facts mixed in with all the hyperbole, speculation and distortions. Of course the Queen is the one who determines what will and will not be loaned, and it is also very likely that Catherine will be loaned pieces that Meghan will not have access to because both their current and future roles are so different. It's also probable that Meghan will be loaned additional pieces of jewelry in the future. Aside from that, it's all the DM trying to whip up outrage and imply things that haven't actually been said. In other words, the usual.
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Old 04-04-2019, 09:55 AM
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There was no State banquet in Australia. They aren't visiting heads of state. They would not have worn tiaras even if they had visited Spain or such. Kate wore a tiara the same night as it was a state banquet. Big difference.

Kate and Meghan have the same role right now. Neither are married to the heir to the throne. They are both married to grandsons. The BRF also doesn't have jewelry reserved for the heir's wife.

The queen has always loaned jewelry to other members, not just Diana and now Camilla and Kate. Meghan will be no different. She simply hasn't had any major event to attend since her wedding.

Meghan also has a far more modern asthetic then Kate does. The pearls and some other pieces that could have been worn to some events Meghan has attended, are not really her more modern style. Some of the queen mother's art deco pieces would be great on her.
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:28 AM
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The queen has always loaned jewelry to other members, not just Diana and now Camilla and Kate. Meghan will be no different. She simply hasn't had any major event to attend since her wedding.

Meghan also has a far more modern asthetic then Kate does. The pearls and some other pieces that could have been worn to some events Meghan has attended, are not really her more modern style. Some of the queen mother's art deco pieces would be great on her.

I'm expecting Charles to be generous with the loans.
Not so sure about William.
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:46 AM
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The Queen certainly does reserve certain pieces for the more senior royal ladies.

It's why we've never seen Sophie or Anne wearing the maple leaf brooch while in Canada.

In fact Sophie doesn't get loans at all for the most part.

Same for New Zealand fern brooch. It's only Camilla and Kate who wear it.

So theres definitely pieces Meghan will never have access to
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:31 PM
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Meghan will have access to all the jewelry she could ever want...she has her personal pieces, gifts from Harry/Charles etc and then Diana's pieces. It's not like she's walking around needing more jewelry. The era of Queen Mary is long gone. They rarely wear the big pieces anymore.


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