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09-22-2004, 04:13 AM
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why secetly?, In find that strange, because the sisters's king didn't make their activities secretly
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We don't know why this is secretly, and that is the question the moroccan papers don't understand.
For example, in the Paris Match's report for CP Moulay Hassan's birthday, we saw her with his husband when he received foreign guests in his office. But in the moroccan official newspaper "Le Matin" they show the king receiving the same guests but the pic was not large enough to see that Lalla Salma was there !
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09-22-2004, 04:52 AM
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Sometimes I see as they make one step ahead and one step back.
The fact that there is no courage to make a strong appearance in public, with a strong role in the society, reflects exactly the situtaion of women there: Women are not accepted yet to have a political role.
I hope the King M6 and Lalla Salma do something, because this will let whole society to see things differently and give women more and high responsabilities.
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09-22-2004, 08:49 AM
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if lalla salma is the firt lady, there is no reason, to make a secret about her social activities
but is she the first lady, or solely the wife of the king?
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09-24-2004, 04:36 AM
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to rosa
dear rosa,
yes lala salma is the first lady in morocco for the first time we can see the wife of the king that it was forbiden to see her her in the old times and what about activities we still have time to see mush of her activity because it s going to be first activity for a first queen of morocco.
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10-07-2004, 04:34 PM
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I hope that salma will finally make her job of first lady of Morocco and that her presence on the associative live will not stop since the leave of Belgian sovereigns
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10-08-2004, 11:26 AM
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well i dont think that lalla salma is going to make morocco better because the king is not working with her, she is only wones in the time on telivison.
and she isnt the first lady of morocco i believe that princess lalla maryam is the first lady she has a lot of procjets going on like unicef and the woman rights in morocco so we need to thank lalla maryam for the woman rights that we have know in morocco because of her the king mohammed 6 is making a ne law.
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10-12-2004, 02:55 PM
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Does anyone think it likely King Mohammed/Muhammed VI take another wife in say five to seven years? If he is Sunni he can have up to two wives? Correct?
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10-12-2004, 08:27 PM
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Does anyone think it likely King Mohammed/Muhammed VI take another wife in say five to seven years? If he is Sunni he can have up to two wives? Correct?
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He can have up to four.
But there are very specific circumstances in which a man can take more than one wife. I certainly hope he wont take another wife. Polygamy was allowed a long time ago during times of war. Many Islamic scholars agree it doesnt apply today. I dont see why a modern King like Muhammad would need another wife. Lalla Salma is a pretty woman and she's already given him a crown prince.
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10-13-2004, 07:23 AM
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It is very unlikely. Polygamy has never been widespread in Morocco. Plus with the new family code, it has become very very restricted.
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Does anyone think it likely King Mohammed/Muhammed VI take another wife in say five to seven years? If he is Sunni he can have up to two wives? Correct?
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10-29-2004, 12:17 PM
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If she is shy, I think she can start to appear in public at home (Morocco), by herself only, or with the king sisters, and not necessarly with foreign first ladies. There were many occasions for that and still there are many. And by doing so, she will gain more confidence and get use to public.
She does not have to be like a star every time when she makes public appearance, because people will remember more her work than her costumes.
But apart from being shy or not, any first lady who has social activities, is proud to help people who need help, and speaks about that,
I beleive also that being shy does not stop someone to be active.
There are many people who are shy (by nature) but they are very active !
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10-31-2004, 04:33 AM
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If she is shy, I think she can start to appear in public at home (Morocco), by herself only, or with the king sisters, and not necessarly with foreign first ladies. There were many occasions for that and still there are many. And by doing so, she will gain more confidence and get use to public.
She does not have to be like a star every time when she makes public appearance, because people will remember more her work than her costumes.
But apart from being shy or not, any first lady who has social activities, is proud to help people who need help, and speaks about that,
I beleive also that being shy does not stop someone to be active.
There are many people who are shy (by nature) but they are very active !
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why M6 chose this woman for wife?, I think that he chosen her precisely because she is shy and reserved (a journalist wrote that when she was girl, she didn't frequent anybody a part from her older sister), with a woman as salma, M6 is sure that she won't require him to have an important role to play and that she will be content with what he will want to give her
This light role of first lady, satisfy her, exactly because it corresponds to her personality
I think that if the king wanted that her wife has a more important role, he would have chosen a stronger woman than salma :)
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11-02-2004, 08:12 AM
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do you think that lalla salma is the better first lady that moroccan people can have?
me I think that her sisters-in law are better, they are more active and more beautiful
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11-03-2004, 05:42 AM
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do you think that lalla salma is the better first lady that moroccan people can have?
me I think that her sisters-in law are better, they are more active and more beautiful
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In the Moroccan popular class, salma is nicknamed the shrimp; that indicates in what esteem they hold her
I am certain that if the people felt that salma worrier of their problems, they have given her an a lot kinder nickname
For me salma is the example of what must not be a first lady, a potiche
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11-03-2004, 06:30 AM
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do you think that lalla salma is the better first lady that moroccan people can have?
me I think that her sisters-in law are better, they are more active and more beautiful
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Moroccan women that I know are very much ambitious, even if they belong to different levels or different classes of the society, everyone with its needs and its expectations.
For me, P. Salma didn't shown any ambition, except receiving foreign first ladies and being wife of the king.
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11-03-2004, 06:27 PM
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what more of an AMBITION do you want? she has already married the king of morocco, and she is in a way Queen. How much higher can one get??!!!!
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11-04-2004, 05:23 AM
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what more of an AMBITION do you want? she has already married the king of morocco, and she is in a way Queen. How much higher can one get??!!!!
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I think that if the only ambition of salma was to live a luxury life it is gained
on the other hand, an intelligent woman would not be content herself with it and would like to be useful for the societe
she should be an example for Moroccans women, by showing them that a woman can be an spouse, a mom and to have an active life
for me lalla salma isn't a first lady
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11-04-2004, 07:03 AM
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what more of an AMBITION do you want? she has already married the king of morocco, and she is in a way Queen. How much higher can one get??!!!!
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I can understand “ambition to be a president, senator, or governor, since this requires hard and long work in democratic countries” but not “ambition to be a king or a queen”. You know this title is given only by heritage.
If you don’t know what social and humanitarian work can bring to people and change their lives, you will not see a much higher ambition than just being a king or a queen. We are in the 21st century; we don’t live anymore in the middle age, time of Aladdin and Sherazade.
Plus of that staying active is good for soul and brain!
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11-08-2004, 08:40 PM
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I personally think Lalla Salma is one very lucky lady. She can concentrate taking care of the boy and not needing to always be under the spotlight. I suppose French education is more subtle toward women in general.
Lalla Salma is loved by her husband and her husband trying to give as much to her. She is well protected, and probably does not mind being that way. However I do think later in her life, Lalla Salma will take more important role and be more visible.
IMO, I find morocco princesses very attractive and beautiful-the way they carry themselves with long dresses, the discreet and charming manners-Lalla Meryem, Lalla Salma, Lalla Souknia, all in the different stage of their lives, but all very charming ladies.
May I ask why Lalla Salma is called a shrimp by the Moroccan people?
What does "Shrimp" illustrate?
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11-08-2004, 10:56 PM
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I think she is unique and very pretty. SH ehas a unique beauty about her and I like that she is behind the scenes and not after the spotlight. A lot of ppl who talk about a problem and what outta be done, but it is pure rhetoric. It is not like those "bling bling" monarchs and leaders would ever stop shopping and give soem of that money to their communities and to the young ppl who have no resources to get a higher education and find jobs. Ok...i am waaayyyyy off. Sorry. But I respect Lalla Salma cuz she is pretty and a humble person/wife.
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11-09-2004, 05:20 AM
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May I ask why Lalla Salma is called a shrimp by the Moroccan people?
What does "Shrimp" illustrate?
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That she is short in a disrespectful way.
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