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Old 09-19-2014, 06:36 PM
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L'ADN est formel: Jacques BoŽl n'est pas le pŤre de Delphine - RTBF Belgique

Belgian media report today that a DNA-test has proven that Delphine Boel's legal father Jacques Boel is definitely *not* her biological father.
This doesn't mean that K.Albert *is* her biological father, but i assume she'd like to prove that in a further DNA test...
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:02 PM
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I think everybody already know that !
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:18 PM
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Ms Boel can sue King Albert II or his estate for some moral sufferings. She has nothing else to do.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:10 PM
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I think everybody already know that !
Yep, it's no surprise, but now it's really proven; all parr of the trial Ms Boel has initiated to get K.Albert to undergo a DNA-test and is recognized as her biological father
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Old 09-20-2014, 03:51 AM
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Sueing the king is probably the last thing Mr. BoŽl would do. His family is wealthy and discreet. A BoŽl is lady-in-waiting of Queen Mathilde, etc. The last thing he wants is more publicity. Why do you this that mr BoŽl put up with all this in the first place?

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Old 09-20-2014, 06:29 AM
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I wonder just how things would go if Boel ended up willingly renouncing his legal obligations and status as her father, but Albert refuses to let himself be declared Delphine's legal fahter, no matter what DNA says. She would end up a creek with no legal father and Jacques could end up disowning her completely, leaving her with nothing. Imagine if you will, a woman who has no legal father and neither man required to give you anything.
Through no fault of her own, I know a young lady who has no legal father nor one that she would claim as a father, and the same goes for her mother, she has done alright with her life and I so admire her. Blood is not always thicker then water........
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Old 09-20-2014, 06:56 AM
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L'ADN est formel: Jacques BoŽl n'est pas le pŤre de Delphine - RTBF Belgique

Belgian media report today that a DNA-test has proven that Delphine Boel's legal father Jacques Boel is definitely *not* her biological father.
This doesn't mean that K.Albert *is* her biological father, but i assume she'd like to prove that in a further DNA test...
That is nothing new. It is widely known that Jonkheer Jacques BoŽl is not the biological father of Delphine, not in the last because he himself has acknowledged that he is the juridical, not biological, father of Dephine.

The biological fatherhood is easy to prove: a DNA-test for an example. In this case however Jonkheer BoŽl juridically acknowledged Delphine as being his daughter. That means he has not contested but accepted fatherhood. That means that Delphine -for law- is his child, he holds parental authority and Delphine is eligible for his heritage (which is considerable since Jonkheer BoŽl is a wealthy gentleman, living on the Domaine de Beauregard, the family belonging to the 10 most wealthy of Belgium, for sure more wealthy than the royal family...

Would Delphine contest his fatherhood and point to former King Albert II, then she would "win" a natural father (if fatherhood is proven) but then become part of a most estranged and dysfunctional family, bringing her rights on the immense BoŽl fortune in danger and IF former King Albert II is NOT her father, she ends with all and everything in a mess, for nothing.

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Old 09-20-2014, 10:16 AM
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There is more resemblance between King Albert II and Delphine than with Princess Astrid. Delphine has Queen Astrid's eyes.
Prince Laurent refuses the ADN test . Is it his own decision or the one of the Royal Palace?
What will happen on September 23 th on Court?
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Old 09-20-2014, 04:27 PM
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... [snipped] Would Delphine contest his fatherhood and point to former King Albert II, then she would "win" a natural father (if fatherhood is proven) but then become part of a most estranged and dysfunctional family, bringing her rights on the immense BoŽl fortune in danger and IF former King Albert II is NOT her father, she ends with all and everything in a mess, for nothing.

Ms Boel is sure that her biological father is King Albert II. It is unclear why she strives to be recognised as his child and "become part of a most estranged and dysfunctional family". Perhaps, being King Albert's illegitimate daughter can further her artistic endeavours.
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Belgian kingís Ďillegitimate daughterí in court bid for recognition Ė which would put her 15th in line to countryís throne

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Old 09-23-2014, 02:40 PM
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The Audiences where the Lawyer of Albert II , the lawyer of Mr Jacques BoŽl and the one of Delphine took a whole day long and Delphine attended the whole day.

This affair (une premiŤre) in our history will take a very long time , what can a young Citizen do against a Former Head os State.

The attitude of Queen Paola and her protection towards HER Children makes it difficult of King Albert.
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I do think this will set a precedent; if Boel wins, then Nicole Coste could argue for recognition for Alexandre, resulting in a possible instatement of Alexandre as Prince Albert of Monaco's son and entitled to a place in the succession.
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If she is recognised surely she won't be placed in the line of succession, she would still be illegitimate.


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Is she it actually possible that she will be in line to the throne? I'm not really familiar with the belgian law on this, but isn't there a "born in wedlock" clause or "legal *and* natural"?
Or is this case actually to prove that she *is* natural and force K.Albert to accept her legally?
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According to the article, she would become 15th in the line of succession; says it right there on the headline.
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Old 09-23-2014, 02:57 PM
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I do think this will set a precedent; if Boel wins, then Nicole Coste could argue for recognition for Alexandre, resulting in a possible instatement of Alexandre as Prince Albert of Monaco's son and entitled to a place in the succession.
Aren't those two different cases? Afterall, PAlbert of Monaco did acknowledge his son and (according to the records) he is providing for him and his mother. Whereas, King Albert of Belgium doesn't recognize Delphine Boel as his daughter. (Although to be honest, one look at Delphine and one simply can't miss the family similarities)

Besides, according to the Monagasque law, in order for any illegitimate child to be in the line of succesion, the parents should be married. The most recent example is Sasha Casiraghi, who was installed in the succession with his parents' marriage. Also Raphael Elmaleh isn't in line, since his parents aren't married.

BTW, the above article is from Daily Fail, who is notorius for getting facts right. :)
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According to the article, she would become 15th in the line of succession; says it right there on the headline.
Not possible. Article 85 of the Belgian Constitution gives the answer:

The constitutional prerogative of the King is passed by hereditary succession, in direct lineage, on the natural and legitimate descendants of His Majesty Leopold Georg Christian Friedrich von Sachsen-Coburg and according primogeniture.
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According to the article, she would become 15th in the line of succession; says it right there on the headline.
I believe lllegitimate children are excluded from the line of succession.

Belgoum Constitution, Art. 85, Sec. 1

" The King's constitutional powers are hereditary through the direct, natural, and legitimate descent from H.M. Leopold, Georges, Chretien, Frederic of Saxony-Coburg, by order of primogeniture."
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I do think this will set a precedent; if Boel wins, then Nicole Coste could argue for recognition for Alexandre, resulting in a possible instatement of Alexandre as Prince Albert of Monaco's son and entitled to a place in the succession.
Not possible, the monegasque Constitution is clear: de sa descendance directe et lťgitime par ordre de primogťniture avec prioritť masculine au mÍme degrť de parentť (by the direct and legitimate descendants in order of primogeniture with priority for males within the same degree of paternity).
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You never know; for all we know, the court might set up a new ruling based on Human Rights and could in fact influence future generations. Weirder things have happened.
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