Sarah, Duchess of York, news and pictures 3: Jan 2006-June 2006 - Page 9

soCal girl · #**161** 06-20-2006, 12:10 AM

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Sarah seems to have great relationships with both her daughter. Often teenagers like to rebel and hanging out with their mothers wouldn't be the "cool" thing to do. I think its great both Beatrice and Eugenie look like they were having a great time when out with Sarah.

Well Sarah doesn't come off as a conventional mother

. But it is refreshing to see Sarah and her two daughters get along.

Incas · #**162** 06-20-2006, 12:22 AM

SoCal Girl, you are right: Sarah is nothing if not unconventional.

princess olga · #**163** 06-20-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Incas

Sarah seems to have great relationships with both her daughter. Often teenagers like to rebel and hanging out with their mothers wouldn't be the "cool" thing to do. I think its great both Beatrice and Eugenie look like they were having a great time when out with Sarah.

Interesting discussion. Looking at the picture of Sarah and daughters holding hands, and knowing how Sarah's been open to her daughters over the years regarding her slew of difficulties and differences with the world at large, the hand holding thing almost comes across as if her daughters are the ones in the parental role, and protecting their mother, not the other way around. Kind of a culmulation of Sarah having shown her vulnerability to her daughters at all times, and this almost symbiotic-seeming relationship being the result of this..
but who knows really, we're reading tea leaves here

**iceflower** · #**164** 06-20-2006, 04:26 PM

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[i]Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York and daughter Princess Beatrice attend The Queen's Cup final at Guards Polo Club on June 18, 2006 in Windsor, England.[i]

Thanks for posting these two very nice pics, Adry. If you do not look at them that closely you can see sisters and not mother and daughter

As to the current discussion, I'm quite sure Sarah and the girls do have a fantastic relationship and Sarah has always been a great mother for them :)

Evenstar120 · #**165** 06-20-2006, 06:34 PM

I think Sarah is wonderful, she has true class and has behaved with such dignity in the face of brutal media attention.. I think she and Andrew are a good example of a couple who are happier being divorced than married, they are certainly doing an excellent job of raising Eugenie and Beatrice together. I think Andrew still loves her so much, it is obvious that even in all this time since their divorce, Andrew has never been linked with any other lady, we just don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Although I can't be certain, I think she and Andrew may live under one roof occasionally. I am still baffled as to why after all this time, the royal family can't bring themselves to be civilised towards her and include her at formal royal occasions including Christmas at Sandringham, she is still the mother of Andrew's children and it is high time she was treated with a little respect.

Princess BellyFlop · #**166** 06-20-2006, 07:00 PM

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I think Sarah is wonderful, ..... .

I do not share this opinion at all.

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I think Andrew still loves her so much, it is obvious that even in all this time since their divorce, Andrew has never been linked with any other lady,.

Andrew is from a generation of royals that didn't necessarely «show off» their mistress. He's a senior royal and gets a lot of attention and, unlike his former wife, he does NOT need to be in the public eye to keep publicity contracts with weight loss firms. Discretion is a quality quite valued in his circle.

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I am still baffled as to why after all this time, the royal family can't bring themselves to be civilised towards her and include her at formal royal occasions including Christmas at Sandringham, she is still the mother of Andrew's children and it is high time she was treated with a little respect.

Maybe just out of respect for Andrew himself and his private life. Not having an ex-wife to a family outing is not showing disrespecting but accepting that things changed and that the EX is no longer part of the royal family - a fact that she accepted and wanted herself when she asked for divorce. Who says he doesn't have a special lady in his private life? How would a 2nd wife ever find a place in his heart and in his family if the LOUD and tacky 1st one (imvho) is always around? How strange would it be if not only we would have the infamous 1st wife and the 2nd potential one pictured on family outings in Balmoral or at Sandringham?

Bella · #**167** 06-21-2006, 10:19 AM

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I think Sarah is wonderful, she has true class and has behaved with such dignity in the face of brutal media attention...

I'm sorry but I don't think Sarah has any class. That's part of her problem. And the word "dignity" is not a word I'd associate with her in any way whatsoever.

Duchess · #**168** 06-21-2006, 07:28 PM

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I do not share this opinion at all.

Andrew is from a generation of royals that didn't necessarely «show off» their mistress. He's a senior royal and gets a lot of attention and, unlike his former wife, he does NOT need to be in the public eye to keep publicity contracts with weight loss firms. Discretion is a quality quite valued in his circle.

discretion is not a word that shoud be used to describe the generation that andrew comes from. prior to his marriage he was known as "randy andy" and showed off a mistress by the name of koo stark. they were anything but discrete and lived their relationship out in the media. charles has long history of showing off his mistresses in the media as well, remember all those girlfriends before diana?? discretion might be valued today, as they're older, but it wasn't always that way.

MARG · #**169** 06-21-2006, 10:51 PM

It seems to me that the only 'dubious' trait Beatrice and Eugenie have got from their mother is her fashion taste.

Trinny and Suzanna could have a field day. I wish we could get them to do that. Those girls are just lovely but their clothes are too old for them, do not suit them and always look sort of thrown together. As for their Hats!!!!! Don't get me started. I looove hats, but what those girls are putting on their heads now always look like 'after the shooting party'.

maggieholder · #**170** 06-22-2006, 12:03 AM

I read the posts on the boards on a regular basis and I am truly amazed at the "cattiness" of some of the posters and just down right mean spirited. When I see the notation that I have posted you now can understand why.

**iceflower** · #**171** 06-22-2006, 05:03 AM

"Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, bows to the 'Queen of Soul' Aretha Franklin at the Apollo Theater, New York City, USA - 21.06.06"

(WENN)

**kimebear** · #**172** 06-22-2006, 11:31 AM

Honestly, leave this poor woman alone. Can anyone even imagine for one second what it would be like to have your entire life viewed under the public's microscope? She was not cut out for royal life and made mistakes. But does she need to be continually flayed for every one after all these years? No one can deny that she works hard, earns her own money, is a loving mother to her children, a friendly and supportive ex wife, and a loyal subject to her queen. So her fashion sense is a little questionable. Let it go already.

ysbel · #**173** 06-22-2006, 11:57 AM

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Andrew is from a generation of royals that didn't necessarely «show off» their mistress. He's a senior royal and gets a lot of attention and, unlike his former wife, he does NOT need to be in the public eye to keep publicity contracts with weight loss firms. Discretion is a quality quite valued in his circle.

The fact that Sarah has publicity contracts (if indeed she does) is not a point against her since these contracts helped get her out of debt.

Andrew has a conservative side but he's always had a raunchy side too. Too much raunchiness makes his public life more difficult so people see the more conservative side now but I don't think he's as judgmental about outlandish behavior as a lot of people.

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Who says he doesn't have a special lady in his private life? How would a 2nd wife ever find a place in his heart?

Andrew has dated other people since he divorced Sarah and so has Sarah.

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infamous 1st wife

That's a bit strong. Sarah has made some questionable decisions in her life but she's hardly infamous.

HighGoalHighDreams · #**174** 06-22-2006, 12:21 PM

"I just wonder how long it's going to take her to be on all the American talk shows (after Grarter and then Bea's Bday Party)?"

She's already appeared on the British talk show and apparently talked about the Garter at least.

Bella · #**175** 06-22-2006, 01:26 PM

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Honestly, leave this poor woman alone. . . does she need to be continually flayed for every one after all these years?

If Sarah had done a complete about-face after all her indiscretions and faux paus of the past, I think ppl would let things go. But she hasn't. Yes, she's managed to clear her huge debt, by all appearances she's a good mother and she's never spoken badly about the BRF in public. However, she still acts inappropriately for someone so close to the RF (the mother of The Queen's granddaughters, no less) and her motives for her behavior remains questionable. If she doesn't want the criticism, she shouldn't do the things she does. It's not rocket science and she has lived long enough now in the spotlight to know better. True, there are ppl who will shoot her down no matter what she does, but most ppl want to give her a break ~ she's just making it difficult to do so.

ysbel · #**176** 06-22-2006, 02:03 PM

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If Sarah had done a complete about-face after all her indiscretions and faux paus of the past, I think ppl would let things go. But she hasn't. Yes, she's managed to clear her huge debt, by all appearances she's a good mother and she's never spoken badly about the BRF in public.

These were the major indiscretions of her past and as you say, she cleared them up.

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However, she still acts inappropriately for someone so close to the RF (the mother of The Queen's granddaughters, no less)

However these are not major indiscretions and as Sarah herself said, she wasn't cut out to be royal and in fact she isn't royal any more.

Why on earth would she agree to abide by royal restrictions if she's lost the royal privileges? She would then be accepting a very raw deal.

Princess BellyFlop · #**177** 06-22-2006, 02:29 PM

Ysbel - which word would you suggest I use instead of infamous to describe Sarah's behavior considering that I find that her actions tarnish the honor of the royal family (and especially her daughters' and her lovely ex-husband's) and that I find extremely tacky that this loud ex-wife after being invited to the Garter ceremony went to British TV shows the morning after and the 2nd day after she's in USA to apparently bow the queen of soul.

I might have made a mistake in using infamous by referring to the French word «infame» meaning that she brings moral pain, is annoying and despicable. And also tacky but that's my personal addition which I admit is biased against her.

Bella · #**178** 06-22-2006, 02:33 PM

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Why on earth would she agree to abide by royal restrictions if she's lost the royal privileges? She would then be accepting a very raw deal.

Good behavior and discretion are not standard only to royals. I'm not saying she needs to abide by royal restrictions. I'm saying that, as the mother of two royal princesses, she is watched - and scrutinized (fairly or not) - by the media and the public and that she needs to be more careful of her words and actions. This is my opinion. I was pointing this out in response to another post that was saying ppl need to stop "picking" on Sarah. IMO, she all but asks for the criticism she gets by the choices she makes. And I understand we all have made bad choices and will continue to do so, but we're not on the world stage. I think if she wants to be taken more seriously, she should act accordingly.