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Old 03-13-2011, 12:01 AM
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Essentially, you're so pro Sarah that you can't see when you're having the wool pulled over your eyes. You'd rather defend her, regardless of evidence.

I am not unable to see the evidence but when cryptic posts are made I ask for the poster to explain their posts - NAP has still failed to explain the post that I queried and I still have no idea what point was being made.

I like Sarah - now - but didn't for many years. Maybe I have come to like her simply because of the vitriol that is written on this board. Being and Aussie it is natural to support the underdog - it is part of our national character whereas some other nations revel in rubbishing people who are unable to defend themselves.
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Old 03-13-2011, 12:07 AM
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Just how much sympathy does she deserve?? She's been making the same financial mistakes for the past 20yrs!! The woman is 50 years old and still manages to embarrass herself, her family, and the royal family. Andrew gives her money because he blames himself for the failure of their marriage. Meanwhile they've raised 2 daughters that seem to be headed down the same path. They need some sort of family counseling.

Let me get this clear.

Two young women - aged 22 and 20 attend nightclubs once or twice a week and they are doing something wrong are they?

William, Harry, Zara and Peter attended numerous nightclubs when they were aged 22 and 20 but somehow Beatrice and Eugenie are doing something wrong.

William and Harry still attend nightclubs regularly but that is ok - but they are boys (and Diana's sons so can do no wrong) but... Sarah's girls do something like that and they are a disgrace - sexist and simply anti-Sarah and anti-Andrew feelings being transferred to the two young women who are still full-time students. We didn't hear about William doing this sort of thing at uni because there was a deal in place to protect him from these stories but the press/Andrew have never been able to put in place a similar deal to protect Beatrice and Eugenie while they complete their educations.

Sometimes I think people forget just how young these two girls are - and expect them to be behaving like Zara is now - rather than comparing them to Zara etc at the time that Zara and William etc were 20 and 22 (when both of them were at uni and did uni student type things). Beatrice and Eugenie even go to events for charity - as royals do - and still they are criticised.

I do hope that both girls get worthwhile jobs away from the public eye and leave Kate to be the young 'princess' to do all the young 'princessy' jobs that come along.
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Old 03-13-2011, 12:33 AM
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Exactly, Iluvbertie. I expect that once Beatrice and Eugenie finish university, they'll settle down to some kind of work and have adult lives. This is the time of life when young people are figuring what they want to do with their lives and what kind of people they want to be and be with, and it's reasonable to see them doing things that their friends are doing.


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Sometimes I think people forget just how young these two girls are - and expect them to be behaving like Zara is now - rather than comparing them to Zara etc at the time that Zara and William etc were 20 and 22 (when both of them were at uni and did uni student type things). Beatrice and Eugenie even go to events for charity - as royals do - and still they are criticised.
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Old 03-13-2011, 12:37 AM
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Yes, this is true, Zonk. I don't think that Sarah and Andrew are nasty, evil people. I think that, for all their wealth and trappings, they aren't particularly sophisticated and get in over their heads with things. With Sarah, it's financial mismanagement; with Andrew, it's the appearance of friendships that aren't appropriate.


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I realize that the bad press that Sarah and Andrew face these days are the result of actions and decisions that they made, and they need to deal with the consequences of their actions but this consistent York bashing is getting tiresome.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:11 AM
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Andrew and Sarah aren't evil people, they haven't used the best judgement and that is now apparent. I can say this because I'm not immune either.
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:44 AM
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Maybe they're being consistently bashed because they're consistently creating they're own scandals but whatever...I'll leave the York threads to the objective folks.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:37 AM
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Even in the early days, when everyone called Sarah refreshing and fun, I never liked her. I thought she was bumptious and self-absorbed.

I now believe she is completely selfish and has no regard for anyone else, as long as she is able to live in the style that she wants (no matter that she can't afford it, and it is at the expense of other people). I don't at all see where she may be considered an underdog.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:04 PM
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:57 PM
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Her hair's a more flattering length, and still such a lovely colour, but boy does she look tired!
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:13 PM
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I know sarah in person when she comes here, argentina, in 2004, I thinks she is a loverly person, she makes mistakes, a lot! but she still is the mother of two princess, its very sad that william don't invite her to his wedding, I still remember william when he was a little boy in sarah' weddind kissing andrew in buckingham palace's door.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:36 PM
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Her hair's a more flattering length, and still such a lovely colour, but boy does she look tired!
I think Sarah does look older than she is--her face looks pale and haggard. I think smoking is probably a lot to blame for that; the Daily Mail recently had an article with pictures of Kate Moss (a smoker) without makeup, and although she's only in her 30s, she looked much older.

Sarah's hair is pretty, though.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:21 PM
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I think Sarah does look older than she is--her face looks pale and haggard. I think smoking is probably a lot to blame for that; the Daily Mail recently had an article with pictures of Kate Moss (a smoker) without makeup, and although she's only in her 30s, she looked much older.

Sarah's hair is pretty, though.

Does Sarah smoke though? I don't think I have ever heard that she does which is why I am asking.
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I don't think she smokes, but I could be wrong. Natural red hair is the first of colors to fade and so is the complexion that goes with it. So translucent to begin with...
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:30 PM
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Could you please explain this post as it doesn't make sense.
Of course it does, bertie. Of course it does.
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The information regarding the long-standing acquaintance of Prince Andrew (a note, in his handwriting) with one of Sarah's psychic advisors was publicized today.
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Old 03-14-2011, 06:29 PM
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Was this the thank-you note to the woman who was the go-between with the Fake Sheik, or someone else?


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Of course it does, bertie. Of course it does.
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Old 03-14-2011, 07:28 PM
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Of course it does, bertie. Of course it does.
Had I understood the post I wouldn't have asked for it to be explained.

So obviously TO ME it doesn't make sense so again - could you please explain what the post is trying to say? To me it is a very cryptic post and I don't understand it - it doesn't make sense TO ME.

I am not an idiot and am actually fairly well eduated so please don't insult me by saying something makes sense when I have asked for it to be explained because I say it didn't make sense - I didn't add 'TO ME' as I assumed that that was understood.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:51 AM
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I don't think she smokes, but I could be wrong. Natural red hair is the first of colors to fade and so is the complexion that goes with it. So translucent to begin with...
In the sting video of last year, Sarah was talking to the "businessman" and had a glass of wine in one hand and a cigarette in the other. She was shown puffing away during the meeting. I remember I was on another forum and a person wrote it was too bad she started smoking again.
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:40 AM
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Had I understood the post I wouldn't have asked for it to be explained.

So obviously TO ME it doesn't make sense so again - could you please explain what the post is trying to say? To me it is a very cryptic post and I don't understand it - it doesn't make sense TO ME.

I am not an idiot and am actually fairly well eduated so please don't insult me by saying something makes sense when I have asked for it to be explained because I say it didn't make sense - I didn't add 'TO ME' as I assumed that that was understood.
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In the sting video of last year, Sarah was talking to the "businessman" and had a glass of wine in one hand and a cigarette in the other. She was shown puffing away during the meeting. I remember I was on another forum and a person wrote it was too bad she started smoking again.
Yes! I had forgotten that from the video. In the olden days, the only time I smoked was when I had had some alcohol (oddly, I know.) So perhaps for her, they go together. I do know I've never seen a picture of her standing with a cigarette, so she seems to be discreet in that manner.
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Lots of people smoke "socially" or when they're nervous. Were I Sarah in that instance, I would have been nervous, therefore smoking.
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Yes! I had forgotten that from the video. In the olden days, the only time I smoked was when I had had some alcohol (oddly, I know.) So perhaps for her, they go together. I do know I've never seen a picture of her standing with a cigarette, so she seems to be discreet in that manner.
There were several books out stating that Sarah smoked and wsa always trying to quit, one is Starkies book. And yes, the smoking and alcohol go hand in hand with a lot of people.
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