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Old 01-19-2011, 02:45 AM
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Bertie, did Mark Phillips remarry and if he did, could that be the reason he is not on the List? I honestly don't know if he's married at present or not. Now I'm curious.

Yes he has remarried but that doesn't change the fact that he is the father of the Queen's grandchildren (and now the grandfather of her great-granddaughter). He, like Sarah, is the biological parent of the monarch's grandchildren - same relationship.
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I am wondering if this is just an anticipatory/defense move on the part of the BRF. I don't recall that Mark Phillips has ever especially tried to profit by his former association with the family, clearly Sarah has and does continue to gain attention by her former relationship. Maybe they are including her so that her name may not be used in any way for profit and they don't feel they have to with MP.

Just a thought.
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I second Princess Of Durham`s idea of the anticipatory/defense move on the part of the BRF. With Sarah's "creative" way of funding her lifestyle and her being already involved a bit in the new TV channel OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network) well who knows what they/she can come up with to remind us that she is/was royal..
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Yes he has remarried but that doesn't change the fact that he is the father of the Queen's grandchildren (and now the grandfather of her great-granddaughter). He, like Sarah, is the biological parent of the monarch's grandchildren - same relationship.
Thank you, I was just throwing out an idea.
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I second Princess Of Durham`s idea of the anticipatory/defense move on the part of the BRF. With Sarah's "creative" way of funding her lifestyle and her being already involved a bit in the new TV channel OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network) well who knows what they/she can come up with to remind us that she is/was royal..
I'm going to "third" this idea - it's highly sensible. We've all had ideas of how to place limits on Sarah's less savory commercial activities, and it could well be that the BRF consulted with knowledgable parties as to how this might be achieved, and extending such protections from exploitation of images of the two York girls.

So what *is* Sarah doing in these frosty winter months?
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:34 AM
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So what *is* Sarah doing in these frosty winter months?
She has been filming the Oprah documentary, as far as I know. But other than that, she's been lying low and steering clear of the media...which is just what people here said she should do, I think
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:41 AM
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I'm going to "third" this idea - it's highly sensible. We've all had ideas of how to place limits on Sarah's less savory commercial activities, and it could well be that the BRF consulted with knowledgable parties as to how this might be achieved, and extending such protections from exploitation of images of the two York girls.

So what *is* Sarah doing in these frosty winter months?
There may well be some truth in what you say NAP.

The only recent thing I read about Sarah is that she spent Christmas quietly in the UK, and was in Canada for a week filming her series for OWN. She gave one interview in Canada but refused to comment on the forthcoming Royal wedding other than to say it was wonderful news and that she was excited for them.
It has been reported in the papers that Andrew, Sarah and the girls had planned to go to Verbier skiing next month to celebrate his birthday (the report said this trip is routine for them and not unusual ), but there are doubts over it now because of the wedding and the risk of injuries close to the wedding. They may decide on something else to mark his birhday this year or reschedule the trip.

All in all she has being keeping a very low profile, if that's the type of understanding she has with Andrew at least she's sticking to it.
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I do hope that the princesses don't get involved in this sort of thing as it isn't what princesses should be doing.

I have no problem with Sarah doing this as she needs to earn a living and all she has to sell is herself but she should stand up to Oprah etc and say 'no way will you have access to my daughters' and if she doesn't then the Queen needs to step in and stop the princesses from getting involved.
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From the article: "Sarah had also said the cameras would have access to members of her family, including her daughters, but we are finding it hard to get them to be part of it.'

Hmmm.. access to members of her family including her daughters eh? Who else would there be? Andrew? Wasn't it something like this that landed Sarah in the big mess in the first place?

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Personally i think that is why Sarah doesn't remarry, because she doesn't want to lose her so called title!! She doesn't want to revert back to being a mere commoner
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:01 AM
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Personally i think that is why Sarah doesn't remarry, because she doesn't want to lose her so called title!! She doesn't want to revert back to being a mere commoner
She doesn't have a title but a style - like any other divorced wife of a peer, including Diana, Princess of Wales.

She was a commoner throughout her life as she was never a peer in her own right - just like Diana who was also never a peer in her own right.

Except for the Queen the rest of the royal women are actually commoners as none of them are peers (able to take their seats in the pre-1999 House of Lords). They are all able to stand for election to the House of Commons, even when they were married both Sarah and Diana could have stood for election as they were 'mere commoners'.
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I too said HAHA at first but then I thought "oh boy!" I'm now concerned that Oprah could use all her power and convince Sarah to "go deeper for her own good". I apprehend lots of "soul searching" just for ratings and the "soul searching" that Oprah and her network are looking for - IMO - I don't know why but I fear - would include some sharing of family dirty laundry (here ROYAL family). I'm afraid Sarah doesn't have the necessary self-esteem to stand up to Oprah (and I understand Sarah on that point). Poor girl she kinda painted herself in a corner: she either betray the RF for which she may still have warm and genuine feelings or she lets down a rich media icon who may save her from her current financial distress or, if upset, may put her deeper in the mud. Poor Sarah (never thought I would write that "poor Sarah")
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I too said HAHA at first but then I thought "oh boy!" I'm now concerned that Oprah could use all her power and convince Sarah to "go deeper for her own good". I apprehend lots of "soul searching" just for ratings and the "soul searching" that Oprah and her network are looking for - IMO - I don't know why but I fear - would include some sharing of family dirty laundry (here ROYAL family). I'm afraid Sarah doesn't have the necessary self-esteem to stand up to Oprah (and I understand Sarah on that point). Poor girl she kinda painted herself in a corner: she either betray the RF for which she may still have warm and genuine feelings or she lets down a rich media icon who may save her from her current financial distress or, if upset, may put her deeper in the mud. Poor Sarah (never thought I would write that "poor Sarah")
When I read that the program was so far deemed "boring" (if you read down in the article though, the network denies this) and saw how they're having troubles getting Sarah's family to co-operate on this, I got the gut feeling is that getting some of the RF or dirt on the RF is what they're really after to begin with. Something that would really sensationalize this program and "reveal" things never before revealed to the public.

In all the years during her marriage and after her divorce until now, Sarah has not uttered one derogatory remark about any of the BRF and most likely she knows how much money could be made from doing so. Although Sarah does have her faults, I really think Sarah would refuse to sell out Andrew, his family or her daughters for a TV show.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:34 PM
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Sarah's invitation is not surprising. The tabloid press makes much of her isolation from the Royal Family but it's not actually the case.

Of course William would invite her. She was a close friend of Diana's for years before the falling out; Sarah is the mother of his cousins to whom he's close; Sarah would not be living in a royal residence if the Queen didn't approve; she remains very close to Andrew; she was badly affected by the GFC, not by squandering money; in the recent past, she's worked very hard to clear enormous debts and succeeded; some journalists have raised the possibility that Andrew was fully informed of her attempt to squeeze money for 'access' to him. Sarah's mother, Susan, was and remained, a close friend of Charles' until her death. Shortly before her death, PoW wrote a glowing Forward to her newly published book. It is highly unlikely that he would turn on her daughter.

Sarah remains very well liked by many members of the Royal Family. The tabloids can't quite accept this: Sarah continues to provide good 'copy' for their scurrilous newspapers and their gullible readership. Their hypocrisy is breath-taking as, at the time of the York's separation, they were all calling for the heads of the Family for treating Sarah so shabbily. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Sarah's rehabilitation is a direct result of the Family's trying to make amends.

I often reflect on the fact that despite the ill-informed and derogatory newspaper articles about Sarah, she has retained all of her close friendships, remains popular in royal and aristocratic circles and is adored by her daughters. All of those who know her best can't all be wrong.
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From the article: "Sarah had also said the cameras would have access to members of her family, including her daughters, but we are finding it hard to get them to be part of it.'

Hmmm.. access to members of her family including her daughters eh? Who else would there be? Andrew? Wasn't it something like this that landed Sarah in the big mess in the first place?
Yes, I noticed that too.

I applaud her efforts to come to terms with the results of her own actions and behaviours, if this article is to be believed: but did she "sell" herself to Oprah by promising access to her ex and her daughters? It does in fact sound like more of the same...
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When I read that the program was so far deemed "boring" (if you read down in the article though, the network denies this) and saw how they're having troubles getting Sarah's family to co-operate on this, I got the gut feeling is that getting some of the RF or dirt on the RF is what they're really after to begin with. Something that would really sensationalize this program and "reveal" things never before revealed to the public.

In all the years during her marriage and after her divorce until now, Sarah has not uttered one derogatory remark about any of the BRF and most likely she knows how much money could be made from doing so. Although Sarah does have her faults, I really think Sarah would refuse to sell out Andrew, his family or her daughters for a TV show.
Unfortunatley your gut instinct may be right Osipi, something similar crossed my mind. Hopefully we are all being a bit too suspicious and reading too much into it. I also think the Royal wedding in April might have something to do with the delay. If this is at Sarah's request she is being wise (especially if rumours of an invite prove to be correct).
Press attention or negative headlines re the show around the time of the wedding would be a nightmare. Sarah does owe Oprah a lot (financially and for giving her something to focus on) but her relationship with Andrew and their daughters should be far more important to her. I really think the way Andrew and the girls have supported her will have meant the world to her, and I think hurting or upsetting them again is the last thing she would want to do. The less Andrew and the girls have to do with the show the better, but I would love to know if Andrew's trip to NY last month had anything to do with it.
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Could be her Ferguson family, not the Royal Family, that they mean.
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