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Old 03-29-2009, 07:54 PM
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Prince William 'wants join Afghanistan fight' | World News | News.com.au
Prince 'wants to fight in Afghanistan' - World News - World - General - The Canberra Times
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Old 03-29-2009, 08:56 PM
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every ones in a while we'll read these stories. Why doesn't he get on with his royal responsibilities instead of wasting tax payer's money with training that will never lead him to war? I would love to see him treated like any other soldier in Great Britain serving his country, but since that will never happen, its time for William to realize the public good he had since his mother untimely death might start to deteriorate if he doesn't show his serious work ethic.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:43 PM
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The reason he transferred to the air force, I believe, is that he will be able to actually see active duty (but not necessarily in Afghanistan or Iraq) as the SAR are posted to many places.
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:24 PM
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:44 AM
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Well, I think he wants to serve but as future heir to the throne he and to a lesser extent Harry are barred from duty in Afganistian and dangerous places. Harry did serve for awhile until people found out about it, I suppose because he's only third in line. I don't know if William doing full time royal duties instead of being in military training would be more productive or not. They seem equally productive to me. He has years ahead to do royal duties, and he's always had the public's good will since before his mother's death.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:40 AM
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I wonder why I doubt the honesty of these articles, apparently sourced from The News of the World, (there is nothing on their site). Can anyone imagine William talking to a total stranger about anything personal? It is also telling that 'William does not recall this conversation taking place'!

William may hope to be posted as a SARF pilot to Afghanistan, but I think the UK, Cyprus or the Falklands are the most likely.
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:38 AM
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every ones in a while we'll read these stories. Why doesn't he get on with his royal responsibilities instead of wasting tax payer's money with training that will never lead him to war? I would love to see him treated like any other soldier in Great Britain serving his country, but since that will never happen, its time for William to realize the public good he had since his mother untimely death might start to deteriorate if he doesn't show his serious work ethic.
Wondered what in particular you were referring to when you talk about "show his serious work ethic"?
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IMO, NOTW used some clever deduction, none of which is farfetching based on facts (i.e. William's training and Harry-Chelsy together for a long time). The claims have enough common sense logic that made the story ring true. I just don't believe anyone would have spoken about going to the front line while out partying. Isn't that what the clubs are for, getting away from the serious business of war?
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:26 PM
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I am sure I have heard that before, possible after Harry came back.
The MOD is surely not gunna let the heir to throne go out to afghanistan. I understand he wants to go and fight for his country, but.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:32 PM
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Wondered what in particular you were referring to when you talk about "show his serious work ethic"?
I'm referring to the fact that until this year, most of William supposed charity/royal work involved sports. Since 2005, whenever he does anything remotely resembling 'work', he'll follow with endless boozing nights or vacations with his equally lazy girlfriend and frat buddies. I believe William has only done about 15 public work in the past 3 years according to both official and media sources. By this age, even his own father have shown serious work ethic.
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The reason he transferred to the air force, I believe, is that he will be able to actually see active duty (but not necessarily in Afghanistan or Iraq) as the SAR are posted to many places.
Doesn't he have a weak eye sight, which would prevent him from doing any real military work on air. My uncle is in the air force and having 100% vision is key to doing any flying, whether you are based in a war zone or peaceful mission.
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:01 PM
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I'm referring to the fact that until this year, most of William supposed charity/royal work involved sports. Since 2005, whenever he does anything remotely resembling 'work', he'll follow with endless boozing nights or vacations with his equally lazy girlfriend and frat buddies. I believe William has only done about 15 public work in the past 3 years according to both official and media sources. By this age, even his own father have shown serious work ethic.
As you may be aware, Prince William is a member of the armed services, which is a full time commitment. This may explain why he undertakes such few public engagements. Increasingly, I would expect him to increase the number of public engagements he undertakes, and resultantly, his public profile. I have no doubt the decision to limit the number of engagements he undertakes would have been taken in consultation with HM and Prince Charles.

As regards commenting in his work ethic, I belive the only people qualified to do so are either his senior officers, or to a lesser extent, his supporting officers. If you are speaking as one of his senior / fellow officers, then I am sure you have some very valuable perspective to add to this debate, and I would welcome more specific comment from you.

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Since 2005, whenever he does anything remotely resembling 'work', he'll follow with endless boozing nights or vacations with his equally lazy girlfriend and frat buddies.
I am sure most people accept that if the Prince chooses to socialise in his own time and expense, then that is entirely his business and nobody else's. So I personally do not believe the comment has any justification.
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Since 2005, whenever he does anything remotely resembling 'work', he'll follow with endless boozing nights or vacations with his equally lazy girlfriend and frat buddies.
As I recall, William was in school through first half of 2005. After graduation in late June, he did an extensive tour of New Zealannd. Since beginning of 2006, he has been either in military training or posted. Perhaps he needed to squeeze in his public engagements, ie "work" to some people, and his personal down time with family and friends, all within the timeoff from his military assignments. I'm not saying it hasn't crossed my mind that his bursts of charity appearances coincided with fun outings. I do think an argument can be made that his schedule made be inflexible due to his military commitments.

I'm not going to get into the "lazy girlfriend" part. We all have our different opinion on that, which belongs to another thread.
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As regards commenting in his work ethic, I belive the only people qualified to do so are either his senior officers, or to a lesser extent, his supporting officers.
The people he will one day rule, are also allowed an opinion on what they see as his work ethic. Any officers involved in his training are kept silent by the Official Secrets Act, the views of his co workers are known only to their wives/gitlfriends/husbands/boyfriends.
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I'm not saying it hasn't crossed my mind that his bursts of charity appearances coincided with fun outings
I wonder if that could be because he is given time off to perform his royal duties and he then also uses said time to seek entertainment?
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:40 AM
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I'm referring to the fact that until this year, most of William supposed charity/royal work involved sports. I believe William has only done about 15 public work in the past 3 years according to both official and media sources. By this age, even his own father have shown serious work ethic.
Obviously you hold neither Prince's Charles nor William in any degree of esteem going by the cheap shot about Charles. May I recommend the Prince of Wales thread to elucidate?

However, back to Prince Willam whose charity/royal work you in your ifinite wisdom and knowledge, have decreed is only "Supposed", and, at that, unworthy because it is "sports' related. Could you possibly supply any reports or links to affirm your statement?

As to Charles, at the same age as William having already had significant training in the Services, quite shocking and alarming many of his one day subjects by insisting on jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft in the process!


It is however impossible to equate Charles and Williams situation at the same age. Charles:
  • His Mother, Elizabeth, was already The Queen.
  • Charles himself was the Heir to the throne
  • His younger brother Andrew (second in line to said throne) was in training and later deployed on Active Service with the Royal Navy
Just to reiterate: Prince William's Father is the Heir and his Grandmother, the Queen, is not only alive, but is still as sharp as a tack and as Polically savvy as every Prime Minister in the last 50 years could only dream of.

So, if one is to equate William with any member of the BRF it would in fact be Prince Andrew, Navy Pilot, veteran of the Falklands War, and second in line.

As to how Prince William (or Harry for that matter) spends his "off duty" time so long as it's legal, it's none of our business. In the Military they tend to work hard and play hard. Having said that, both William and Harry have spent a significantly less amount of time in the public view partying since beginning their new training.

I hope they keep striving and winning.
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The people he will one day rule, are also allowed an opinion on what they see as his work ethic. Any officers involved in his training are kept silent by the Official Secrets Act, the views of his co workers are known only to their wives/gitlfriends/husbands/boyfriends. I wonder if that could be because he is given time off to perform his royal duties and he then also uses said time to seek entertainment?
I think everybody is allowed to hold an opinion on pretty much anything, but only few may be qualified to provide meaningful comment.

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I wonder if that could be because he is given time off to perform his royal duties and he then also uses said time to seek entertainment?
..... in the time after he has performed his royal engagements. Or else, it could well be that he performs royal engagements in his annual leave, and may well socialise at the same time!
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News of the World clashes with royal family over Prince William splash | Media | guardian.co.uk

CH denies story that Prince William wants to go to war....
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Well, that explains why the article never appeared on the NOTW website. Surely, had the conversation actually taken place, the newspaper wouldn't have retracted the story, right?
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Just watch, everybody: now the story will be "Sissy Prince William doesn't want to go to Afghanistan."

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That explains why the story disappeared from their website. However only after it had been picked up by numerous other publications. They should publish an apology!
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I would be highly shocked if the issued an apology...it is not common but i would love to post it, if it happens we could all have a good laugh at the press.
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