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Old 12-29-2006, 03:35 AM
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Chelsy is trying too hard and it is not working out for her. I hope to goodness that he does not marry this girl for his/his future childrens sake.
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:50 AM
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Chelsy is trying too hard and it is not working out for her. I hope to goodness that he does not marry this girl for his/his future childrens sake.

I also do not she is marital material for Harry. But, he sure does love her and she does try hard to be there for him. IMO, she just won't really work out and as hard both will try, the pressures would do in any marriage between the two of them after the pressures create rows between the two and she flies back home to her mum. So, I think they are just enjoying themselves.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:10 AM
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I don't think anyone really has to worry about them getting married. They still seem in this lusty/honeymoon/exciting love phase and they are both young. I'm sure they think they will get married as many young people do with first loves, but I doubt he'll marry her. I can actually imagine him not getting married for a while.

I really find it hard to believe they are sending him to Iraq. It seems like it would cause more problems than good
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:33 AM
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Go to the last three paragraphs of the article. What do you think is that good or bad do you really believe that?
Mr Davy is not respected, IMO, because of his backing for Mugabe, who the UK government sees as a dictator, anyone with a television, will have seen the distressing scenes broadcast from Zimbabwe. I also know 2 white farmers who had to flee, with their family, after their farm was taken, their staff and animals beaten, some to death. That is why I believe that IF Harry wanted to marry Chelsy, it would cause problems, as Mr Davy is a supporter of Magabe. I feel sorry for them both.

As for Harry choosing to spend the new year with his girlfriend, don't most youngsters prefer to spend the new year partying with people their own age?
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Old 12-29-2006, 01:29 PM
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I don't think anyone really has to worry about them getting married. They still seem in this lusty/honeymoon/exciting love phase and they are both young. I'm sure they think they will get married as many young people do with first loves, but I doubt he'll marry her. I can actually imagine him not getting married for a while


I agree, I don't even worry about these two getting hitched. They are way too young. They are just having a great time, doing things kids their age do. I am impressed though that they have been together as long as they have, especially with the long distance. That says something about a good relationship.

I'm not saying it could never happen between them, but if it did, it would be years down the line. JMO
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:25 PM
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I doubt The Queen could approve a marriage for Harry and Chelsy with the consent of the Government. Her father is just too controversial and the Commonwealth would certainly have objections to his daughter marrying the third in-line to the throne and becoming a British princess.

If William married and had children, they might squeak by since Harry would no longer be close to the succession, but it's a long shot.

I just don't see it happening.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:26 PM
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I actually think it might be possible for Prince Harry to marry Chelsy also. I agree with Branchg that it would have to be after Prince William's marriage to Catherine or whomever, but it is a possibility. One thing that would certainly help is if Mugabe fell out of power before the time for a wedding to take place. Wouldn't that help to eliminate some of the political objections and overtones shadowing their relationship?
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:46 PM
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I actually think it might be possible for Prince Harry to marry Chelsy also. I agree with Branchg that it would have to be after Prince William's marriage to Catherine or whomever, but it is a possibility. One thing that would certainly help is if Mugabe fell out of power before the time for a wedding to take place. Wouldn't that help to eliminate some of the political objections and overtones shadowing their relationship?
I don't know, I think it would leave a taste if they married while ever her father is living off of money he earned by backing Magabe. It could be that after William and ??? marry and have children, she could do a Princess Maxima. I do feel sorry for them both, it must be a terrible situation.
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:38 PM
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Of course, Harry at age 25 will be wealthy enough in his own right, thanks to his inheritance from his mother, not to mention anything he got from his great-grandmother and will get from his grandmother, that he could actually renounce his right to the throne to marry her, if he really wanted to. That I think would be worse for the family than marrying Chelsy up front - after all it isn't as if Chelsy is the one with the connections to Mugabe directly and why should she be punished and stopped from marrying the man she loves because of the actions of her father?
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:13 PM
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[quote]Harry will be stationed near the southern port city of Basra and will likely be assigned to patrol the border with Iran.
London's Daily Telegraph said Harry, 22, is determined to go, despite reports of resistance from many in the military who fear he would be a fat prize for terrorists.
They're also worried he would attract attention and put his fellow soldiers in greater danger.
The Telegraph said officials are trying to figure out how to minimise the danger without giving Harry special treatment. [ quote]
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001021,00.html
Skydragon, what do you thnk of this?
What do the rest of you think?
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:18 AM
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I don't think this is a good idea. I know, Prince Harry just as a normal citizen, nothing special, they show this... but if he died, what a catastrophy! And right, he probably would attract terrorists. Not a good idea in my opinion.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:31 AM
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I realize Harry’s military career is very important to him and he wants to be treated like everyone else but he is to senior of a member in the royal family for this. There to me are just too many problems associated with him going.
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:01 AM
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Personally I have no problem with him going.

If he really wants to make a career in the army then he will have to see active service.

Note that Mark Philips left the army because he wasn't allowed to have the opportunity for active service, in danger areas - in his case Northern Ireland I believe - whereas Prince Andrew was allowed that opportunity in the Falklands (as second in line to the throne at the start of that conflict with William on the way).

To stop Harry and/or William from serving would be a travesty of natural justice for these two young men.

There are plenty of other young royals to pick up the slack if anything happened but to stop them because they are royal is wrong IMHO.

Afterall Prince Albert, later George VI, saw active service in the Battle of Jutland in WWI as second in line to the throne and his elder brother the POW toured the trenches and served as a Staff Officer (if anyone thinks that senior officers in the British army didn't die then check some facts - some 79 generals actually were killed during WWI in the first year or so and then the parliament made it illegal for them to go too close to the front - which is why it is unfair to criticise them as chateau officers).

The late Duke of Kent, was fifth in line to the throne when killed on active duty.

If Harry's unit is sent then either he goes with it or he will, IMO, have to resign his commission. His position would be untenable as an officer in that situation. His troops would have difficulty respecting an officer who couldn't go everywhere with them, regardless of who he is.
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:18 AM
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Well if they allow Harry then they have to allow William and I don't know if everyone is prepared for that.
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Old 12-30-2006, 05:15 AM
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Well if they allow Harry then they have to allow William and I don't know if everyone is prepared for that.
Why not?

They are both commissioned officers.

If people weren't prepared for the possibility that these two young men would be deployed into war zones then they shouldn't have been allowed to take up places and cost the British taxpayers money to be trained at Sandhurst during a time of war.

It isn't as if they did their training during a time of peace - when both entered the military academy Britain was at war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Both young men knew that, as did their families, the government and the people - everyone knew that there was a war on and that young people being trained as officers were being trained to fight in those wars - if the powers that be aren't prepared to let William and/or Harry fight then they shouldn't have allowed them to be trained.
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Old 12-30-2006, 07:35 AM
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Well if they allow Harry then they have to allow William and I don't know if everyone is prepared for that.
Not really, It has already been announced that William will be spending some time training with the RAF and Navy.

It is possible that before William started training at RMAS, everyone agreed that he would never see active service. As he will one day be head of the armed forces, it is only right that he should have completed the full training in at least one arm.

Harry on the other hand, wants to make his career the army. The main danger for Harry, is the media telling the world where he will be and when he will be there. Not only does that endanger Harry, but it puts his colleagues and the men serving under him at an increased risk.
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Old 12-30-2006, 08:02 AM
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Harry on the other hand, wants to make his career the army. The main danger for Harry, is the media telling the world where he will be and when he will be there. Not only does that endanger Harry, but it puts his colleagues and the men serving under him at an increased risk.
what is with the media, his friends, girlfriend? etc. Can't one of them use a modicum of common sense and keep their big mouths shut!
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:24 PM
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Of course, Harry at age 25 will be wealthy enough in his own right, thanks to his inheritance from his mother, not to mention anything he got from his great-grandmother and will get from his grandmother, that he could actually renounce his right to the throne to marry her, if he really wanted to. That I think would be worse for the family than marrying Chelsy up front - after all it isn't as if Chelsy is the one with the connections to Mugabe directly and why should she be punished and stopped from marrying the man she loves because of the actions of her father?
I don't think Harry is that crazy and it would greatly upset his father and brother, not to mention his grandmother if she's still reigning.

We'll have to wait and see.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:46 PM
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I have no problems with Prince Harry being sent to Iraq, not because he is a Prince anyway.
But I am really afraid that sending the third in line to the British Throne will attract potential insurgent attacks, which will put not only Prince Harry but also his fellow soldiers in more danger.
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:26 PM
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sure if harry go to irak will be a very danger situation, don't only for an terrorist attack, irak is a very uncertain place.

but, buckingham or clarence confirm this romur?
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