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Her visa may allow for multiple entries, but as sheís going the citizen route she is limited in how many days outside of the UK she can be. Itís not a small number (270 days in 3 years), but she still has to be aware of it.
Right, especially given the fact that she'll be traveling abroad in the future for engagements.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:01 PM
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Since we no longer Hunt Foxes in this Country [IF she opposes the idea] she will be spared that... Altho' 'drag' hunting is still a very common activity [the scent of a fox is artificially laid and the hounds and followers use that for a day out.

We do shoot tho' , that [and deer stalking] are an integral part of the family, and class into which she will be marrying, so if she's opposed on ideological grounds it might be tricky...

Sorry when I say hunting I mean shooting anything not fox hunting specifically. In the U.S. hunting covers everything as a generic term.


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If my memory serves me correctly, Princess Victoria didnít approve of shooting or hunting later in life when she became quite religious. She attended house parties but she didnít go out on any drives, preferring to play cards or paint until the other guests returned. So Meghan could easily do the same. I doubt sheíd be forced to join in if she really didnít approve.
IIRC Diana was against fox hunting before they banned it (except in N.I. it is still legal). I don't think it was against all hunting though.

I don't think any of the wives/husbands of the royals would be required to hunt.

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Old 12-03-2017, 03:02 PM
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I think most families in the UK tend to alternate between their parents and in laws. But Christmas in the UK is a longer holiday than it is in the US too and some families will spend the day itself with one side and Boxing Day with the other. Or even Christmas Eve. There are lots of opportunities for families to get together so Iím sure Meghan will be able to spend some time with her future in laws.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:07 PM
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It will also be her last Christmas before she is married. And those the Cambridges have spent Christmas with the Middletons, it will be harder for Harry and Meghan to be with her family at Christmas in years to come.
Not that much harder. Once they have bigger accommodations, her family could easily stay with them and they could opt out of Sandringham and host her family at their own home. I anticipate her mom will be spending some time in London from now on when she can anyways.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:10 PM
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IIRC Diana was against fox hunting before they banned it (except in N.I. it is still legal). I don't think it was against all hunting though.



I don't think any of the wives/husbands of the royals would be required to hunt.



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Fox hunting is still legal in the UK, itís only hunting with hounds which is prohibited under the 2004 Hunting Act. Even then, itís common for the law to be broken without much follow up from the police. Itís still legal to drag hunt or to use hounds to locate a fox but the hounds must not be used to actually kill the fox as in traditional hunting. Which as you rightly say is still legal in Northern Ireland.
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Yes sorry should of clarified about 'using live fox' is the part that was banned.


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Her visa may allow for multiple entries, but as sheís going the citizen route she is limited in how many days outside of the UK she can be. Itís not a small number (270 days in 3 years), but she still has to be aware of it.
270 days is 90 days a year, that is no short amount. But that doesn't apply to Meghan. She is there on a fiancť visa and she answers to its rules, which has no regulations about leaving and coming over the six months.

Becoming a UK citizen is different when you are married to a UK citizen. Once they are married she applies for a spousal visa which. It is after applying for this visa, that the 270 days starts to apply to her.

There is also a chance, that when she travels with Harry on any official tours, those days will not count. There are stipulations that allow if your spouse works for the government or an association linked to it, which the royal family arguably is.

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It was made clear during the engagement announcement that she would be traveling home over the next months. So obviously they have considered all of this.
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Even then, it’s common for the law to be broken without much follow up from the police.
I've attended meets where exactly this has happened, [to the universal joy of the particpants]. However I very much doubt ANYTHING which might be 'borderline' illegal would be permitted at any such occasion attended by the BRF or their close associates. Can you IMAGINE the fuss that would cause, if it were made Public. The 'sabs' and Republicans would LOVE it..
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:20 PM
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I've attended meets where exactly this has happened, [to the universal joy of the particpants]. However I very much doubt ANYTHING which might be 'borderline' illegal would be permitted at any such occasion attended by the BRF or their close associates. Can you IMAGINE the fuss that would cause, if it were made Public. The 'sabs' and Republicans would LOVE it..


I believe members of the BRF no longer take part in any fox hunting for this reason.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:23 PM
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OTOH, I don't think Guy is currently residing at Nott Cott. I get the impression that he's acclimating with friends, hopefully who have other pets. Guy is so used to being around other dogs. This is going to be a very busy time for M&H, and they will be traveling a lot. It wouldn't likely be beneficial or kind to Guy to leave him cooped up at Nott Cott being looked after by staff, when M&H are away.
Guy is with the couple. Meghan said he's been in UK for awhile and is adjusting fine in the interview. Meghan has had one day of royal engagements. I highly doubt she's has to be away a lot to do what she needs to do. It's likely a lot of things are being done with her at home, especially for the wedding. If she has to go into the office to meet with Harry's advisors on stuff, they are just a stone's throw away in KP. I'm sure they can have someone look in on him if he needs to be walked during the day while they are gone. Harry doesn't have that many things on his calendar right now. Everything is just a day trip. I think some people are thinking way too much into this. Believe it or not, you can leave a dog at home during the day, most people do it when they have to work. They just mostly sleep. Guy isn't a puppy where he needs to burn off puppy energy and be around people a lot more. Have other considered it might be more traumatizing for him to be away from the only two people he's familiar with in an entirely new environment without Bogart?
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:34 PM
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Could we please discuss the issue of Meghan's visa/citizenship etc etc in the Meghan Markle: Citizenship and Religious Conversion thread and just use this thread for her Family and background. Thank you.
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People who thinks Kate would be miffed should also keep in mind that William wasn't at Sandringham on Christmas 2010. If William's not there, I do think Kate would much prefer to spend Christmas with her own family.
Yes, it has definitely been a departure from antiquated royal tradition for William and Kate to spend so much time with her parents, and to include them as well in closely nurturing Prince George and Princess Charlotte. That's a good thing. We are sure to see more departure from old royal customs in the coming years. However, I'm not convinced that Meghan will appear at Sandringham and be seen this year with the rest of the royals for the annual church photo-op. We must wait to hear official word from the palace.

As far as Meghan's Mom, for all we know, Meghan may wish to spend Christmas with her Mom and other family and friends in L.A. in an undisclosed location, not at her mother's house. It could also be possible for Doria to visit with Meghan in the U.K. for Christmas. Meghan doesn't have to be at Sandringham this year. She and her mother could stay with friends of Harry's nearby if that's what is decided. Certainly in-law parents have not been invited to Sandringham for the holidays, that I'm aware of anyway.

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In the general news thread, an article by Roya Nikkah in the Sunday Times is said to confirm that Meghan will spend Christmas with the royals and stay at W&K's Anmer Hall. In that case, Meghan's Mom, Doria, could possibly join her.
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I've attended meets where exactly this has happened, [to the universal joy of the particpants]. However I very much doubt ANYTHING which might be 'borderline' illegal would be permitted at any such occasion attended by the BRF or their close associates. Can you IMAGINE the fuss that would cause, if it were made Public. The 'sabs' and Republicans would LOVE it..
Ok I know about yobs..what are sabs?

Do you follow other equestrian discipline? I follow a few Brits on FB (of course Valegro and Carl/Charlotte) etc.


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I think horseback riding is a wonderful pursuit, but foxhunting is cruel for the foxes. There has been historic and scientific research done supporting the likelihood of foxhunting having contributed to the spread of rabies.

I love all the equestrian disciplines otherwise, including dressage (my favorite), show jumping and cross-country. Horse racing is beautiful to watch, but it's so dangerous and it has been very exploitative and inhumane in many instances, to horses. There are responsible breeders & owners in horseracing. And thank God for all the recent efforts to save and rehabilitate abandoned race horses for use as therapy animals, or just to protect and care for them instead of sending them to slaughter.
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Short for 'saboteurs'.. people [opposed to Hunting often in ANY form] who make it their business to disrupt the activity.

Personally I ride often but only rarely Hunt. My Sister is much keener on it than I am {LIVING for Horses}, she loves Dressage and 'eventing' too.
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:41 PM
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Short for 'saboteurs'.. people [opposed to Hunting often in ANY form] who make it their business to disrupt the activity.

Personally I ride often but only rarely Hunt. My Sister is much keener on it than I am {LIVING for Horses}, she loves Dressage and 'eventing' too.
Ah yes I should of known, thanks! I follow a hunting page on FB based in the U.K. and see articles about the protestors and all they get up to.

I'd get along with your sister quite well! I don't ride any longer but I have grandkids that have started....two of them are getting ponies for Christmas presents.


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I think horseback riding is a wonderful pursuit, but foxhunting is cruel for the foxes. There has been historic and scientific research done supporting the likelihood of foxhunting having contributed to the spread of rabies.

I love all the equestrian disciplines otherwise, including dressage (my favorite), show jumping and cross-country. Horse racing is beautiful to watch, but it's so dangerous and it has been very exploitative and inhumane in many instances, to horses. There are responsible breeders & owners in horseracing. And thank God for all the recent efforts to save and rehabilitate abandoned race horses for use as therapy animals, or just to protect and care for them instead of sending them to slaughter.

By chance do you follow Denny Emerson on FB?


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NEVER too early to start.. My sister says the day she received her first Pony was the happiest of her life -Wedding/Babies being as nothing by comparison...
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NEVER too early to start.. My sister says the day she received her first Pony was the happiest of her life -Wedding/Babies being as nothing by comparison...
Yes! One of them is 3 and her sister (who has been riding 2 years at lessons) is 8. Stopping lessons now that she has the basic foundation and just keeping something at home for her to ride and figure things out. When she's older she can take lessons again if she wants. I have enough experience to instruct if needed in the meantime.




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Not that much harder. Once they have bigger accommodations, her family could easily stay with them and they could opt out of Sandringham and host her family at their own home. I anticipate her mom will be spending some time in London from now on when she can anyways.
It seems for now, from the engagement announcement, they will remain in the cottage. The two bedroom cottage doesn't make it that comfortable for long time visits from her mother. Until they either have a bigger home in London, or a country home, or both, practicality sets in.

Besides its not just her mother. She has a father as well who she is close to. She also has friends and extended family she is known to celebrate with. Since her parents are divorced, a 2 bedroom cottage wont allow for them to both visit.
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