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Old 12-22-2018, 12:55 PM
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Old 12-22-2018, 01:01 PM
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That's really sweet - taken just a few months before he died.
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Old 12-22-2018, 01:07 PM
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Queen Mary attended the premiere of The Lavender Hill Mob on June 28, 1951. She wore the Diamond Bandeau Tiara which Meghan wore on her wedding day in 2018.
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That doesn't look like the same diadem Meghan wore at her wedding. It is noticeably bigger, but maybe the picture quality is not so good.
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Old 12-22-2018, 01:35 PM
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That doesn't look like the same diadem Meghan wore at her wedding. It is noticeably bigger, but maybe the picture quality is not so good.
I think it's the same tiara but with some added diamonds on the top (or a different central brooch as it's detachable). Here are some more pics of QM wearing it:
The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Tiara Thursday (on a Tuesday): Queen Mary’s Diamond Bandeau Tiara
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Old 12-23-2018, 05:06 PM
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Queen Mary saw herself on film.
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Old 01-01-2019, 02:27 PM
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Peter Quennell's book on James Pope Hennessy

I am wanting to read the book "In Quest of Queen Mary" by Hugo Vickers, which I understand is an edited version of James Pope Hennessy's notes he took when writing his book on Queen Mary. Someone mentioned in one of the Amazon reviews that a book by Peter Quennell in 1980 on James Pope Hennessy was really good. The statement from the review is "The best of JP-H's stuff was published by Peter Quennell in 1980." Does anyone know which book this is? The only book I have come up with is "Lonely Business: A Self-Portrait of James Pope Hennessy" , but it is from 1981 and not 1980. Also it is about JPH and not about his "stuff" which I would assume to be his work or notes.
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Old 01-01-2019, 02:43 PM
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I am wanting to read the book "In Quest of Queen Mary" by Hugo Vickers, which I understand is an edited version of James Pope Hennessy's notes he took when writing his book on Queen Mary. Someone mentioned in one of the Amazon reviews that a book by Peter Quennell in 1980 on James Pope Hennessy was really good. The statement from the review is "The best of JP-H's stuff was published by Peter Quennell in 1980." Does anyone know which book this is? The only book I have come up with is "Lonely Business: A Self-Portrait of James Pope Hennessy" , but it is from 1981 and not 1980. Also it is about JPH and not about his "stuff" which I would assume to be his work or notes.


I’m about halfway through “Quest” and so far I’ve really enjoyed it. You get a sense for the writer and the “off duty”side of many of the royals. It’s very good!
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Old 01-01-2019, 08:46 PM
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I’m about halfway through “Quest” and so far I’ve really enjoyed it. You get a sense for the writer and the “off duty”side of many of the royals. It’s very good!
Thanks. I look forward to reading it.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:58 AM
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James Pope-Hennessy interviewed the Duke of Windsor in France for his official biography of Queen Mary and his visit is chronicled in the new book The Quest for Queen Mary.

Some interesting comments about Queen Mary from this article (link):

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‘My mother (Queen Mary) loathed the country,’ he said. ‘She used to say to me: “I was born in Kensington and I am a Londoner.” She hated Sandringham; Balmoral was a bit better; but we were always there too long. Sandringham was dreadful.’
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He added: ‘Off the record, my father (George V) had a most horrible temper. He was foully rude to my mother.

‘Why, I’ve often seen her leave the table because he was so rude to her, and we children would all follow her out; not when the staff were present, of course, but when we were alone.’
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I remarked that I was puzzled by the shutting down of his mother’s high spirits after marriage.

‘Well, you’re right there, I think. My father was a very repressive influence. I well remember when he used to go banging away for a week or two at some shoot in the Midlands; we used to have the most lovely time with her alone — always laughing and joking.

‘She was a different human being away from him.’
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He seized one of the two 1936 files and showed me various letters — until we reached one from Queen Mary, begging him not to broadcast (his abdication speech).

‘Surely you might spare yourself this strain and emotion,’ he read out. A look of real disgust crossed over his face.

‘She even tried that! Well, I ask you...if I hadn’t done that...’
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I said: ‘I think one of Queen Mary’s chief difficulties in understanding your dilemma was the fact that she had never been in love herself.’

‘No, I don’t think she had,’ he said. ‘You’re right. My mother was a cold woman, a cold woman...'
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:47 AM
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What a charmer the DOW was...
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:37 AM
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What a charmer the DOW was...
You have to remember that the DOW seems to have had a very difficult relationship with his parents, especially so with his father. So yeah, I can really understand that he would put it like that. But he did at least give Queen Mary the credit, that she would be more pleasant when King George was away.
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Queen Mary died on this day in 1953. Some of her portraits and a very beautiful!!! portrait of her that i never seen before!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2bP47NXcAAMv4U.jpg

https://twitter.com/MmeGuillotine/st...02985914286080
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:47 PM
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Does anybody know the reason why all of King George and Queen Mary's sons except the Dukes of Windsor and Kent were married off to women of noble birth and not to royal princesses during the time when the whole European royal houses follow strict protocol with dynastic marriages?
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:20 PM
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Does anybody know the reason why all of King George and Queen Mary's sons except the Dukes of Windsor and Kent were married off to women of noble birth and not to royal princesses during the time when the whole European royal houses follow strict protocol with dynastic marriages?
It was basically a decision made to safeguard the future of the monarchy. King George and Queen Mary decided that having their children continue the tradition of marrying German royals would reflect badly on the monarchy at a time when anti-german feelings ran so high that they and their relatives had been forced to change their German names and titles.
I've read somewhere that the King informed the government of his decision around the time of the name change, but I can't find the text where I read it.
Making it possible for his children to marry British subjects was seen as both patriotic and modernising.
Worth noting is that children of both Queen Victoria and King Edward VII had married members of the British nobility and also members of the non-royal houses of Battenberg and Teck so the rules of equal marriages weren't followed as rigidly as on the continent.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:42 PM
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Does anybody know the reason why all of King George and Queen Mary's sons except the Dukes of Windsor and Kent were married off to women of noble birth and not to royal princesses during the time when the whole European royal houses follow strict protocol with dynastic marriages?
When King George and Queen Mary's sons came of age which was after World War I, the era of dynastic marriages had ended. By then it was more advantageous to marry a British aristocrat than a European royal given that many of the eligible princesses would have been German and therefore from the country they just ended a very bloody war with. On top of that the monarchy had been abolished in Germany, Austria, Russia and other countries and therefore the union would not be a true dynastic marriage.

The British royals were not required to make equal marriages, they did so out of custom. Heck George's marriage to Mary could hardly be considered dynastic, Mary was considered suitable for marriage to Eddy and then George because Queen Victoria liked her character, not because there were political or financial gains.
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Old 08-10-2019, 02:28 PM
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Does anybody know the reason why all of King George and Queen Mary's sons except the Dukes of Windsor and Kent were married off to women of noble birth and not to royal princesses during the time when the whole European royal houses follow strict protocol with dynastic marriages?
They were not "married off" in any case. They chose their own wives
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:49 PM
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Thank you for all of your replies and I appreciate it so much. So it makes sense to me now and I can just summarize it into 3 points:

1 Due to Anti-German sentiments
2 The British RF are not keen on dynastic marriages compared to other European royal houses as a matter of fact Queen Mary's patrilineal line is of obscure origin.
3 They married out of love
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Old 08-11-2019, 03:17 PM
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Does anybody know the reason why all of King George and Queen Mary's sons except the Dukes of Windsor and Kent were married off to women of noble birth and not to royal princesses during the time when the whole European royal houses follow strict protocol with dynastic marriages?
Tonight, on Channel 4 in the UK, there is a new series entitled 'The Queen's Lost Family' - the summary is 'Following the First World War, King George V deploys his five children as part of a charm offensive to woo the public. But when he falls ill, can the five siblings pull together?'
A rather strange title, but it could be interesting!
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Will "The Queen's Lost Family" be aired in the United States?
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:16 AM
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Tonight, on Channel 4 in the UK, there is a new series entitled 'The Queen's Lost Family' - the summary is 'Following the First World War, King George V deploys his five children as part of a charm offensive to woo the public. But when he falls ill, can the five siblings pull together?'
A rather strange title, but it could be interesting!
yes why was it called the queen's lost Family? They were not "lost" in any sense.. they were the queen's Father and uncles and aunt.. and well known
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