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Old 06-14-2016, 07:49 PM
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Nice curtsey from Zara


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Old 06-14-2016, 08:09 PM
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Zara and Camilla can both rock the deep curtsey Kate not so much yet but guess practice makes perfect
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:14 PM
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Deep curtseys always look so awkward to me.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:25 PM
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Probably looked a lot better back in the day when women wore full skirts when doing it. Does seem a bit awkward it short modern dresses.

I remember in my grad dress trying to do a full curtsey (tomboy feeling like a princess for one night). I admit I could actually do a full almost to the floor curtsey, but lucky legs hid behind my ball skirt, as my legs likely looked as elegant as a hippo doing ballet (Fantasia). Dress hid it
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:36 PM
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IMO, Zara curtsey looks more like a squat than a curtsey.

Kate's dress/coat gets caught up between her knees so it also looks like a squat.

Camilla's curtsey extends the dress forward, which looks more like a proper curtsey.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:39 PM
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I would imagine Camilla, growing up in a different era, has had better training from childhood on...and well some people are naturally more graceful at things.


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Old 06-14-2016, 08:53 PM
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At least in Camilla vs Zara, Camilla's dress has a fuller skirt which allows for a more graceful curtsey. In a more fitted dress like Zara's, a deeper curtsey does have a bit of a squat feel. Kate's dress should work good for a curtsey, just needs practice.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:11 PM
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I would imagine Camilla, growing up in a different era, has had better training from childhood on...and well some people are naturally more graceful at things.


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You think that Camilla had better training than the Queen's granddaughter?
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:15 PM
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The Royal ladies curtesy in the way they feel comfortable doing. The Queen is said to not be fully impressed by very deep curtsies. The Queen herself was never seen dipping low when she was a princess. It's was always a bob up and down for her.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:43 PM
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You think that Camilla had better training than the Queen's granddaughter?
Formal training, yes. It was the "done" thing up until recent times that a young woman after finishing her academic education would then head off to finishing school which taught the refined arts that a well bred, aristocratic woman would need in high society. Curtsying, etiquette and speaking French are just some of the subjects that were taught. Camilla attended the Mon Fertile finishing school in Switzerland and the Institut Britannique in Paris.

To my knowledge, none of the Queen's granddaughters have had any kind of formal training such as finishing schools. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 06-15-2016, 12:26 AM
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Correct. Especially not Zara who has lived a private life. Do those finishing schools exist even more The only kind of finishing school her granddaughters did after secondary school is University
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Thanks Osipi and Countessmeout! That was exactly my thinking!


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The Countess of Wessex and Princess Michael of Kent curtseys to the Queen,Prince Michael bows his head.

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Old 06-16-2016, 11:08 PM
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Formal training, yes. It was the "done" thing up until recent times that a young woman after finishing her academic education would then head off to finishing school which taught the refined arts that a well bred, aristocratic woman would need in high society. Curtsying, etiquette and speaking French are just some of the subjects that were taught. Camilla attended the Mon Fertile finishing school in Switzerland and the Institut Britannique in Paris.

To my knowledge, none of the Queen's granddaughters have had any kind of formal training such as finishing schools. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I seem to recall an interview with Zara sometime back when she discussed learning to curtsey from her mother and said that was where she learned to curtsey correctly- she lamented that so few knew how to do it properly. I would imagine the Princess Royal would know how to do it properly
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:29 PM
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I would tend to agree with you on this. Being in the royal family, curtsying and protocol would be prime arts that were ingrained into the children from a very early age so by the time they reached adulthood, it was pretty much mastered.

Camilla may have had more formal training in finishing schools but that in no way detracts from what a royal child who grows up exposed to all things pertaining to the monarchy learns every day.
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:43 AM
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I would tend to agree with you on this. Being in the royal family, curtsying and protocol would be prime arts that were ingrained into the children from a very early age so by the time they reached adulthood, it was pretty much mastered.

Camilla may have had more formal training in finishing schools but that in no way detracts from what a royal child who grows up exposed to all things pertaining to the monarchy learns every day.
You are so right. These children learn the protocol and etiquette from an early age- something that really can't be taught at finishing school because it is inimical to the royal family itself. Admittedly, a deep curtsey looks better with a fuller skirt but still, Zara's was well done as was Sophie and Princess Michael. The Duchess of Gloucester- not so much
I don't mean to say that finishing school can't teach the art of the curtsey and proper etiquette- that would be foolish- but that training in the RF starts as soon as they can walk., a big difference
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:12 AM
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Deep curtseys always look so awkward to me.
To me, too. In fact all curtseys look awkward to me. I think it's high time women adopted the head bow that the men do. Much easier and less submissive.
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Jo Bryant, The etiquette advisor for Debrett's, says to curtsey, a woman should briefly bend the knees with one foot forward.

The move should create a distinct bobbing movement, with the upper body kept straight and should be repeated when the member of the Royal family leaves.

For men, greeting a Royal requires the same deference, but less movement, she said.

"A bow should be made by bending from the neck or shoulders but not the waist


So the theatrical movements we see in films, are for just that, Hollywood.
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Old 06-18-2016, 05:43 AM
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The Duchess og York curtseys to the Queen.

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The King and Queen of Spain at the Palace throne room

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Uma Thurman curtsy to Queen Elizabeth II

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Princess Charlene curtseys to Queen Elizabeth II

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The Infanta Elena curtseys to Queen Sofia

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The Infanta Elena curtseys to King Willem Alexander

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