The Miller Family 2: July 2008-

[Mandy]

Welcome to part 2 of Marie Chantal's Family thread.
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[iakynthi]

Goodmorning,everybody!
Thanks a lot for the previous information!!
We never have the chance here in Greece to learn anything about the Millers,so that was enlightening.And very interesting indeed...
Seriously,don't you get enough information about someone's character when you learn that he's trying to forget or "cover" his real origin?

 

[Odette]

Oh there is plenty to learn from these forums.
As soon as MC and Pavlos got engaged there was an article in Vanity Fair where a lot of things that were so far whispered about, were written about the GRF. I was angry (it had to do with the shipowners financing the GRF's lifestyle etc.) but the thing that really made me mad was the statement that papa Miller could buy Greece. Does anyone still have that issue?

 

[iakynthi]

Hello,Odette!
I remembered something now that you said "shipowners" :the house in Porto Heli belongs to a shipowner,Papaioannou I think,an old family friend.Some journalists have said that he just gives it to them during summer without any money.And that is going on for years!But when Konstantinos got a huge amount of money by the greek government,they (the journalists)started talking about his desire to buy one.I don't know what really happened,that's why I asked you once.
About the Millers:if anyone believes or makes jokes about buying a country,I strongly believe that he has mental problems...

 

[Nad25]

^^^^ so your besically calling marie-chantal fathers mental?? on what basis?? few gossip from people who believe their own stories about him wanting to buy Greece? Goodness gracious me!!!!

 

[Alastair_r]

The Miller Sisters

I'm I the only one who was shocked that the Miller sisters suddenly appeared on the social scene ? Maybe I just wasn't into high society then as I am now. I wonder why only two married titles as even though the Getty's are rich the Millers are rich enugh for all the daughters to marry poor Princes

 

[sgl]

Apparently Mr. and Mrs. Miller preferred to shun the limelight. When the sisters grew up, they seemed to feel the need to seek publicity. They started going to events where they knew they would get noticed. MC worked in Andy Warhol's factory in the 1980s, and I wonder if this is where she gained a taste of fame? This was written in a W article in the mid-1990s (which I don't have a link to, sorry).

 

[Odette]

The Andy Warhol story came up again during an interview either with Home and Garden or the Vanity Fair where MC said that Andy asked to paint her portrait and she agreed, then the bills for the charges went to her father and then she realised she was being charged!!!!!!!!??????
I agree with Alastair. When the engagement was first announced PdV stated that Pavlos was engaged to one from the richest US families. I thought of the Rockeffelers or the Duponts and so on then I read they were the Millers. No one (outside the W mag readers) heard of the Millers before the engagement.....
I am sure the reported 1 billion dollar fortune is substantial but there are so many Americans who have such larger fortunes they make the Millers sound like poor relations.

 

[sgl]

She didn't realize that she was being charged? Oops...talk about a faux pas on both of their parts (but more so on Warhol). I wonder what daddy said when he received the bill?

 

[Odette]

She didn't realize that she was being charged? Oops...talk about a faux pas on both of their parts (but more so on Warhol). I wonder what daddy said when he received the bill?

I am sure Daddy is used to paying the bills.......and the ladies never learnt how to ask......"how much"? She has that portrait hanging in one of the living rooms at her London house.

 

[pamk]

Daddy paid for the Pavlos' and MC's wedding to be telecast in Greece!
The popularity of the Miller sisters can be traced to gossip columns and the fashion magazines. When a magazine like Vogue or W thinks that someone is incredibly interesting or fashion forward, it will promote them like crazy.
Vogue took a real shine to the Miller sisters and promoted them - other publications took note and there you have it.

 

[Alastair_r]

I still don't know why all three didn't marry Princes there seem to be alot of deposed Princes and there's the hot Duke of Feria. Is the Miller's mother from an important famiy ? She looks more beautiful than her daughters and very aristocratic. She reminds me of Jacqueline de ribes or Soa schlumberger X

 

[sgl]

Mrs. Miller is not from a powerful or aristocratic family. She moved to the United States from Ecuador, where she worked in a beauty salon. She married Mr. Miller, and that is where the money comes from. When she got married, she decided to change her name from Maria Clara to Chantal. She also (allegedly) does not have any contact with her family members. Alexandra married Alex von Furstenberg, who belongs to a former royal family. They are now divorced.

 

[Odette]

When the princely interests came in view, Pia was already married to Christopher Getty. Alexandra was the on again off again girlfriend of Alex VF and MC was set up with Pavlos.
Pia and Alex are available again so they may meet another available prince.

 

[Alastair_r]

I did wonder. Normally people with money marry an old family or titled family not another rich family. If I was Mrs Miller I'd have my kids marry for a title it sems to get you places. Wonder why she picked Chantal don't think it's a very aristocratic or society name X

 

[Odette]

Normally trully rich people marry other trully rich people. This of course happens mostly with old money so the fortunes are preserved.
With newly rich people (like the Millers) a title of a prince may elevate them from socials to society and give them the station in life that money alone cannot give.
All in all I do not think that they did that bad with their alliances.

 

[Alastair_r]

Many old European aristocratic houses seem to have a couple of new money Americans in them

 

[Odette]

After the war, many ambitious American mothers took their daughters across the pond to find them aristocratic titled husbands. Most were penniless aristocrats so the exchange was fruitful for both sides.
With the economy what it is these days, I believe this will come to a screaching halt...soon. The dollar is sinking!!!!!

 

[cifrina]

I don't think Alexandra's and Pia's lifestyles have helped to prevent the signs of aging - sun exposure, smoking, extreme weight loss. Especially Alexandra, who was so exotic and interesting-looking when she was much younger. I particularly liked her party clothes, which she wore so nicely. Now I'm so much more interested in Marie-Chantal and what she is wearing/doing/her makeup/hair. I'm not sure exactly why except that as I get older (she and I are close in age) I'm gravitating towards that style - plus I like and buy her clothing line for kids (when discounted). I dream of having her money so I can spend most of my time in the UK and travel in Europe/US like she does. Sigh.

 

[sgl]

I have always thought that Pia was the prettiest of the sisters. I haven't seen any recent photos of her, but she was so beautiful when she was younger. Alexandra is too thin, and hasn't aged very well. MC is aging well, and I think that she is also very beautiful.

 

[pupo]

Mamma Miller is from a poor Indian (indigenous) people--about as far from aristocratic as one can get. Mr. Miller is not much higher (as far as aristocracy, not personally).

 

[SASSY]

I always figured Mama Miller didn't come from wealth when MC claimed in W mag that her mother was a descendent of an Incan Princess. Other than that they never spoke of Mama's side of the family.

 

[iakynthi]

She stated something like that???How serious she is....
Of course,we can all claim that our ancestors were royal...For example,"My great grandfather,who was from Asia Minor,descented from the last Byzantine Emperor,Constantine XI Palaiologos".How is that?LOL

 

[Bella]

Mr. Miller grew up in Quincy, MA and is from a typical middle-class family. I know people who know the family; he still has relatives in the area. He is a self-made man and has no blood ties to European aristocracy/royalty outside of his daughters' families.

 

[sgl]

Bella, do you know if the Miller sisters have stayed in touch with their father's side of the family? I have always had the impression that they weren't in touch with the mother's side, but I've never known anything about their relationship to their paternal relatives.

 

[Bella]

I don't know. I've been trying to get info. on that. I want to say they don't. The only thing I've ever heard is that alot (and I don't know what that implies) of the family wasn't invited to MC's big wedding in London.

 

[sriwadee]

here is her 2 short hair's pictures

http://www.sebastianpiras.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_m-chantal.jpg

 

[iakynthi]

Oh my God,thanks a lot,sriwadee!!Do you know how old she was?

 

[sgl]

I have heard two versions of this story. The first version is that some Hong Kong friends gave the nickname to Mrs. Miller, and the second is that Mrs. Miller herself made the statement. Either way, it is a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[Odette]

I read an interview Mama Miller gave and she was asked about fashion and said that if there was one person she could "make over" that would be MC. She said she always advises her and she says...Yes mummy........
Now one thing MC has in abundance is fashion sense and good taste. I do not know what more Mama Miller can do for her. Perhaps Mama is a tad jealous and created that myth of the Inca princess lineage to be on MC's level....