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Old 09-06-2006, 01:14 PM
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Congratulations to Japan Imperial family!
Wonder what name they will give little prince.
I still think that little Aiko should be future empress. It is time to change something.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:16 PM
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This is soo shady. I hate the IHA sooo much.

I hope when Naruhito is Emperor, he'll get the balls to demand his daughter succeed him.

Afterall, as Emperor, they'll have to respect his wishes.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:29 PM
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I must say that I quite believe those rumors that Princess Kiko was helped by technology in order to conceive and give birth to a baby boy, this was carefully planned..As you can see, the Princess had suffered Placenta Previa, meaningthe Placenta is low-lying or located on the lower part of the womb-and this is abnormal..There is a possibility that this is a complication of the artificial implantation or genetic procedures in order for the princess to conceive a boy..These are risky procedures and not all clients conceive and give birth successfully..I must say that it really takes a lot of courage and determination for a couple to try this procedure because of the risks and low success rates..Prince Akishino and Princess Kiko are just lucky..
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:46 PM
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Hi.
If Masako gets to become pregnant and she has a boy...
How are the things?
Who will the heir be?
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:48 PM
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If Masako gets to become pregnant and she has a boy...
How are the things?
Who will the heir be?
If Masako had a baby boy, then her son would be the heir.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:51 PM
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Oh, ok
Thank you!
That makes sense....
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:05 PM
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Why is everyone so surprised that it has fallen on Princess Kiko to provide the heir to the Imperial throne? She has children more easily whereas for CP Masako it has been more difficult. This is Kiko's third child. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a fourth.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:10 PM
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We're not suprised. We know the IHA is shady.

And Aiko should be the heir.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:10 PM
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Laws of succession aside, a baby is always a blessing.
Congratulations to Kiko, Akishino, and their daughters on the birth of their new baby. Best wishes for good health and happiness to the little one.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:11 PM
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Denmark has changed its law to allow first-born succession but you are absolutely right about the others. This is the case with most monarchies, right or wrong, and I think Japan is unfairly singled out. Sure this is the Japanese royals thread but I don't see passionate debate in the other threads that have these rules except maybe Monaco because I'm the one objecting to the current succession there.
The law in Denmark is not changed yet. They have startet the Process to change the succession law last year after it was announced that Crown princess Mary is pregnant but the change is really difficult. It must changed like the Constituttion what means first it must passed in the Parliament and there has to be a general elcection and then the Law muss agfain voted yes in Parliament and then a Referendum has to be held where more than 40 % of the people entitled to vote, have to vote yes.

So if frederik and mary have nxt year a daughter and 2 years later a second son the line of succession will be, Prince Christian, newborn son, his sister.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:12 PM
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Why is everyone so surprised that it has fallen on Princess Kiko to provide the heir to the Imperial throne? She has children more easily whereas for CP Masako it has been more difficult. This is Kiko's third child. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a fourth.
Maybe becouse Masako as a wife of the Crown Prince (future Emperor) must and should deliver a boy! That's big pressure for (almost) all Crown Princesses. "No matter" what will deliver a wife of the second and any other ruler's son. A male heir should deliver a CPss!
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We're not suprised. We know the IHA is shady.

And Aiko should be the heir.
Why do you just assume that this crisis is all the IHA's fault and no responsibility is put on the CP couple, specifically Masako? When there is a conflict, isn't it usually both sides that are to blame? Do you know anyone in the IHA? The bashing of the IHA, Prince and Princess Akishino's decision to have another child and the fact that it's a boy has gone too far, imo.
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Maybe becouse Masako as a wife of the Crown Prince (future Emperor) must and should deliver a boy! That's big pressure for (almost) all Crown Princesses. "No matter" what will deliver a wife of the second and any other ruler's son. A male heir should deliver a CPss!
There was pressure on Princess Diana, Princess Mary, Princess Letizia, Princess Maxima, Princess Mathilde and Princess Mette-Marit to name a few. Stress didn't prevent them from having children and many of the princesses have multiple children. Some women just have children more easily than others. Obviously the more children you have it's more likely you will have children of both genders.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
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King of Spain sent telegram congratulation to Princes Akishino and Kiko

The King sent today a congratulation telegram to Princes Akishino and Kiko of Japan by the birth, the last dawn, of his third son, a man, third in the line of succession to the imperial throne.
Don Juan Carlos, informed to EFE a spokesman into the House into the King, sent the telegram of congratulation in its name and the one of the rest of the Spanish Royal Family.

http://actualidad.terra.es/nacional/...ko_1071685.htm

New Japanese heir will happen through the imperial rituals

At the moment, a messenger of the emperor, who along with the Michiko empress is in an official visit in Hokkaido, the greater northern island of Japan, will give “a protective” sword for the small one and he will put it on his pillow. The boy will receive his name during a ceremony that traditionally is place seventh after its birth.
Also a symbol will prevail to him that will be used to mark its properties and that will be chosen by their mother. Although its name is not known at the moment, this one will contain the suffix “- fixed”, that means “virtuous person”; if she had been woman, would have taken at the end of his name the particle” - ko ", that means “girl”.
After knowing the name the baby, who will prevail his father in that special ceremony, the head of the Imperial House, Shingo Haketa, will register it in the registry of the imperial family.
The boy in addition will be put under a series of rituals that do not make differences by their sex hardly; however, some rites will not be carried out, because he is not son of an emperor or an inheriting prince. For example, the ceremony of the bath will not take place, in which it requests by the “literary excellence” and the “good health” of the prince However, through this ceremony yes it passed Aiko, daughter of 4 years of inheriting prince Naruhito and his wife, princess Masako, of 42 years.

http://srv2.vanguardia.com.mx/hub.cf...D.28/index.sal
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
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Why do you just assume that this crisis is all the IHA's fault and no responsibility is put on the CP couple, specifically Masako? When there is a conflict, isn't it usually both sides that are to blame? Do you know anyone in the IHA? The bashing of the IHA, Prince and Princess Akishino's decision to have another child and the fact that it's a boy has gone too far, imo.
CP couple is not to blame! Women should be allowed to ascend in the first place! They've had 8 Empresses in the past! So yeah, this is all IHA's fault and the coservative Japanese parliament.

And no, the bashing of IHA has not gotten far, it needs to be abolished. And no one is bashing the Akishino couple, just the IHA. But they probably chose the gender of the baby beforehand, under the IHA's watchful eye.
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Either produce the heir or get out of the way and let someone else produce the heir. Stop whining about your privileged life and get on with your duties.
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Old 09-06-2006, 03:15 PM
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have any non-royals and British royals send telegram news about Japan birth yet?

but that nice of King of Spain send Telegram to Japan congratulations on their birth.

if i would find telegram of Royals or not if you have any royals websites
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Old 09-06-2006, 03:25 PM
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Either produce the heir or get out of the way and let someone else produce the heir. Stop whining about your privileged life and get on with your duties.
When did she whine? I mean, whine in public? AFAIK there has only been statements by the court and her husband telling she has psychological problems. But - we know today for sure how CP Michiko was treated by the IHA - and she had two sons! She was given wrong informations about formal things, eg dress codes for occassions, so she was humiliated in front of all people present because she was dressed in the wrong style. They told her appointments had been cancelled and reported her when she took the time to be with her sons.... things like that abound. And CP Akihito has loved her as much as CP Naruhito loves his wife today - but both were helpless because it was not open fighting but petty intrigues.

So it is easily imaginable how a Crown princess is being treated who does not have a son! How mobbed she must feel, how unloved. There are people openly asking her to commit suicide as she is a burden to the Imperial house. Do you really condone such behaviour and call the suffering from this environment "whining"? That's the impression that I get. I see it differently: I at least believe it is petty, nasty and ,yes, "evil" to behave in such a way towards another human being.
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Old 09-06-2006, 03:30 PM
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Either produce the heir or get out of the way and let someone else produce the heir. Stop whining about your privileged life and get on with your duties.
She didn't whine. She produced a possible heir, but the gender is female. You need to seriously stop being sexist.

She didn't have to produce a male heir, but the IHA needs to be abolished and they need to stop banning women from ascending the throne.

They've had eight empresses in the past, why can't they have one again?
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From what I have heard they do not want an empress because it is felt that they did not do a good job. Therefore, only men are wanted which is rediculous to me.
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