Princess Caroline's current and former homes

[Charles]

Originally posted by kittencrews@Feb 21st, 2004 - 1:45 am
Ernst is from the Royal House of Hannover, but he is also a prince of Great Britain and Ireland... Hannover is a city in Germany now, it used to be a Kingdom before Prussia took it over, but it is in Germany now.

The Royal House is Welf/Guelph. Hannover is/was the territory.

Charles is a full royal. There can only be full royals, so there is no matter of blood.

Ernst's family was officially deprived of the British titles by the reigning and recognized dynasty in Great Britain and Ireland.

 

[kittencrews]

Yes, I was trying to be funny about EA having more royal blood than Charles... "ha ha"

 

[laura_barnaes]

My hypothesis is that Caroline is not moving from Clos St Pierre (and why should she? Her home is wonderful as well)

Caroline doesn't live in Clos St Pierre, she lives in Manoir du Mée, in Mée sur Seine, near Fontainebleau. In the link below you can see a special from Hola magazine about Caroline and Ernst's homes. It's in Spanish but I find it really interesting.

http://www.hola.com/casasreales/especial/palacioshannover/

 

[Charles]

Even if he did, he sure makes good use of it by being a pig...

 

[hrhcp]

laura_barnaes  Posted on Jul 4th, 2004 - 12:49 pm
 
Caroline ... lives in Manoir du Mée, in Mée sur Seine, near Fontainebleau.

I love looking at pictures .. so here are links to each? of their chateau's

Marienburg, Germany
Calenberg, Germany

Auerbach, Austria
Villa Regina, Austria
Manoir du Mée, France
Le Mas de la Source, Saint Rémy de la Provence, France

La Vigie, Mónaco
Clost St. Pierre, Mónaco

Hurlingham Lodge, London, England

Shela House, Kenya

 

[hillary_nugent]

Originally posted by King Christian@Jul 4th, 2004 - 5:17 pm

laura_barnaes   Posted on Jul 4th, 2004 - 12:49 pm
  
Caroline ... lives in Manoir du Mée, in Mée sur Seine, near Fontainebleau.

I love looking at pictures .. so here are links to each? of their chateau's

Marienburg, Germany
Calenberg, Germany

Auerbach, Austria
Villa Regina, Austria
Manoir du Mée, France
Le Mas de la Source, Saint Rémy de la Provence, France

La Vigie, Mónaco
Clost St. Pierre, Mónaco

Hurlingham Lodge, London, England

Shela House, Kenya

Are you telling me Caroline owns all these places??? O__O

HOLY MACORONIS >___________<

 

[grecka]

Of course she owns them all, how else would she find space to hide all of Ernst's illegitimate children by philipino barmaids?

 

[hrhcp]

wellll ....

....actually Princess Caroline owns the French ones
... and Prince Ernst owns the German and Austrian ones
.... and they share the ownership of the closets !

 

[hillary_nugent]

Originally posted by grecka@Jul 5th, 2004 - 7:09 am
Of course she owns them all, how else would she find space to hide all of Ernst's illegitimate children by philipino barmaids?

Philopono O__O I thought there were Japanese Geishas

 

[rarotonga]

Does he really have illegitimate children?

 

[hillary_nugent]

Originally posted by rarotonga@Jul 5th, 2004 - 11:48 pm
Does he really have illegitimate children?

Perhaps...what do you think?

 

[hrhcp]

rarotonga  Posted: Jul 5th, 2004 - 9:48 pm

Does he really have illegitimate children?

just as many as she does.

 

[Elspeth]

George V changed the law so that the only princes and princesses of Great Britain these days are descendents of the monarch for two generations in the male line, so although Ernst is a descendent of George III, that wouldn't be enough to make him a prince of the United Kingdom. As long as Caroline is Catholic (she is Catholic, isn't she?), marriage to her would have removed him from the line of succession to the British throne too.

 

[maryshawn]

Originally posted by Grace@Jul 3rd, 2004 - 3:30 pm
I'm sorry if I'm saying here something false or inaccurate, but I read quite a few years ago, that La Vigie has always been owned by the Grimaldis, and that Caroline had just lent/rented it to Lagerfeld for a 99years period, but that eventually he left Monaco and gave the villa back.
My hypothesis is that Caroline is not moving from Clos St Pierre (and why should she? Her home is wonderful as well) and that these rumors just started because she's apparently organizing a party for her daughter...my opinion is due to the fact that in the last four or five years I've read in various mags that Caroline was moving to LaVigie at least three or four times; mind you, this time it might well be true, but I'm becoming quite suspicious
BTW, I've been to Monaco and I can tell you that LaVigie is one of the finest estates I've ever seen so if she's really moving in, I can just say "Good move!"
Kisses everyone

I believe this to be true. The description of the house matches photos taken by Lagerfeld at "his house," when Caroline posed with her children and Stefano. It was an interesting contrast as the article showed them in this absolutely gorgeous setting and then at Roc Agel in Grace's turquoise, fraying kitchen....... Actually, they looked happier and more relaxed there!

 

[hillary_nugent]

Originally posted by Grace@Jul 3rd, 2004 - 2:30 pm
I'm sorry if I'm saying here something false or inaccurate, but I read quite a few years ago, that La Vigie has always been owned by the Grimaldis, and that Caroline had just lent/rented it to Lagerfeld for a 99years period, but that eventually he left Monaco and gave the villa back.

I think that is true...i heard that the Grimaldis own like almost every significant building in Monte Carlo like the casino, malls and stuff...

 

[Gabriella]

I found this great thread while doing some cleaning. Thought I'd bump it up. Those castles really are amazing.

 

[StefanievonRantzau]

I would love to get the catalog for this auction!

Princess Caroline's stepsons to sell heirlooms

18 April 2005

HANOVER - Two stepsons of Monaco's Princess Caroline are selling EUR 12 million worth of Royal House of Hanover heirlooms, the German branch of Sotheby's announced on Monday.

The art auctioneers quoted Prince Ernst August, 21, and Prince Christian, 19, as saying they would use the proceeds to maintain two stately homes that are both open to the public.

Their father, Prince Ernst August, 51, was recently admitted to a Monaco hospital with pancreatitis.

The elder Ernst August, who divorced the mother of the two young princes and later married the glamorous Princess Caroline, transferred some of his property to Ernst August junior last year.

The 29 September to 8 October sales at Marienburg Palace near Hildesheim in Germany will clear attics and basements of some 5,000 unused items of furniture, glassware, silver, china and paintings from the Royal House of Hanover collections.

Sotheby's said none of the items, gathered in from German and Austrian homes, was subject to export restrictions. The princes would devote some of the proceeds to creating a family trust to maintain Marienburg and the Herrenhausen royal palace and museum in Hannover.

Source: Expatica News
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=52&story_id=19204&name=Princess+Caroline%27s+stepsons+to+sell+heirlooms

 

[lashinka2002]

Why wouldnt they just sell one of their homes & downsize. If there's trouble maintaining the castles now chances are after the 12 million Euros run out there will be trouble maintaing them then too. Either that or this is a big garage sale for them.

 

[auroraDaniel]

do they actually live in those castles? wouldn't it be bleak and old? i guess if they have renovated the castles and have modern facilities it would be okay, but do they live there? and one more thing, wasn't it haunted or believed to be so, after so many generations?

 

[Warren]

Castles, homes & ghosts

do they actually live in those castles? wouldn't it be bleak and old? i guess if they have renovated the castles and have modern facilities it would be okay, but do they live there? and one more thing, wasn't it haunted or believed to be so, after so many generations?

Yes, they live in various homes at different times of the year. Marienberg is the family seat. Extended family members tend to live at Schloss Calenberg. Winter getaways at the Austrian properties. Holidays in the Kenyan and Croatian properties. Conflicting reports as to whether the London house has been sold or not.

No grand castle would be complete without the portraits of the ancestors, and a haunting ghost in residence.
.

 

[budge9]

Does anybody know if Ernst's sons still live with their mother in London? If they do it doesn't seem logical for Ernst to have sold his London home as surely he would want somewhere to stay when he visits them?

 

[tbhrc]

Does anybody know if Ernst's sons still live with their mother in London? If they do it doesn't seem logical for Ernst to have sold his London home as surely he would want somewhere to stay when he visits them?

I've heard that they study in the USA and after they have finished they want to go back to Hannover.

 

[Nathalian]

Ernst house in Kenya

I belive that Ernst has a house in Lamu?? They spent some summers there, right? Do you guys have the pics?

 

[Nathalian]

Thanks TB!!!! Do you have pics of them on holiday there?

 

[tbhrc]

I think those are from their 2000 vacation on Lamu.

From Worldroots

 

[miau]

Homes

Does anyone have any idea whether Caroline still lives in Manoir du Mée in Mée sur Seine? Has she sold her home in St. Remy? What about the rumors that were once abound, about her moving to live in Monaco?

And, once we're at it, does anyone have any idea where Charlotte lives, in what part of Paris?

 

[Grace]

I'll try to help, but I have no direct knowledge apart from what I read in mags: Caro still lives in Fontainbleau but she travels a lot and often spends time in Monaco (when she is there she still lives at Clos St. Pierre, her gorgeous villa near the Palais). I think she still owns her home in St. Remy (she did in April anyway), but she doesn't spend there so much time anymore.

I don't know where char lives in Paris but some have speculated in the VII arrondissement, St. Germain...

Hope I've helped,

Kisses

 

[miau]

Thanks a lot, Grace, for telling me what you know!

 

[acid_rain3075]

I was always under the impression that Caroline still lives in Fontainbleau. I think if she had sold any of her property, it would have gotten in the paper somehow! The same applies to the farm house in St. Remy.

Hey, I have a picture of both the house in Fontainbleau and the farm house in St. Remy. If you want it I can post it for you

 

[princess olga]

yes, acid rain, please post! I don't think I've ever seen pictures especially of the house in fontainebleau. What I also wonder is, since she is now married to Ernst, who certainly has his own share of real estate, they must spend time elsewhere than France/Moncao too , non? Didn't Ernst have a castle (besides the one in Hanover) in Austria, and doesn't he also have a 'pad' in Kenya? Boy do I wish I had these people's real estate budget!

Plus, what does Ernst really do for a living besides hoarding his investments, and is it important for him to be physically in a particular place for that? For example, when he was married to Chantal, his first wife, they were living in London, because, I thought, he had business there. What's the deal with that nowadays?