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I know that I´m a descendant from King Hans on my mothers side of the family
The advanced tree shows only the regents and their spouses, the heirs and their spouses. So therefor you don´t see neither Joachim and his children or the three younger children of the CPCThe tree is really good: I printed it for myself in A3 version just to understand who is related to who while reading different books and it helps!
This tree has also one nice bonus: it shows portraits if you touch with mouse the screen. Unfortunately it's not updated regularly_ there's only 2 children for Mary and the Christian's photo is very old (from baptism).
But still it's really worth to be seen.
Not a direct line to Cnut, but to his sister Estrid Svensdatter, mother of king Sweyn II Estridson, the dynasty ruling Denmark between 1047 and 1412 was named after her, the house of Estridsen.No, she can't. None of Cnut the Greats sons had children. And his daughter had a daughter, who became a nun.
I don't know when this overview was made (probably after Philippe ascended the throne and before Felipe did) but as you correctly mention, grand duke Henri is also one of their descendants.Christian IX married his second cousin, Princess Louise of Hesse-Kassel, in 1842. Their six children married into other royal families across Europe, earning him the sobriquet "the father-in-law of Europe". Among his descendants are Margrethe II of Denmark, Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, Philippe of Belgium, Harald V of Norway, Felipe VI of Spain, Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg, Constantine II of Greece, Queen Anne-Marie of Greece, Queen Sofia of Spain and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
Crown Prince Alexander of Serbia is also a descendant of George. So is Amadeo Duke of Aosta who claims to be the head of the House of Savoy, former rulers of the Kingdom of Italy and also Sardinia before that.I don't know when this overview was made (probably after Philippe ascended the throne and before Felipe did) but as you correctly mention, grand duke Henri is also one of their descendants.
While Christian IX is seen as the 'father-in-law' or royal Europe (except for the Netherlands, Sweden, Liechtenstein and Monaco); 4 out of 5 current monarchs are through his eldest son - so, he should probably get more 'credit':
1. Frederick VIII: Margrethe (Denmark), Philippe (Belgium), Henri (Luxembourg), Harald (Norway)
2. Alexandra: Elizabeth (UK) & Harald (Norway)
3. George: Konstantinos (Greece) & Margaretha (Romania)
4. Marie/Dagmar: (no current monarch or pretender)
5. Thyra: Felipe (Spain)
6. Valdemar: Margaretha (Romania)
And of course it does help if your son and grandson are picked to become monarchs of foreign countries (Greece & Norway).
Futhermore, it's interesting that there currently is one reigning male-line descendant and at some point there will be two; but those male-line descendants don't reign over Denmark but over Norway (currently) and the UK (future).
Crown Prince Alexander of Serbia is also a descendant of George. So is Amadeo Duke of Aosta who claims to be the head of the House of Savoy, former rulers of the Kingdom of Italy and also Sardinia before that.
Felipe of Spain descends from both George & Thyra.
So Christian is half Australian, a quarter French, an eight Swedish and an eight Danish, right?
Won't that make Christian the first predominantly ethnic Australian monarch?
This is a little thought exercise and just for fun.
If we start with the premise that Christian X was 100 % ethnic Danish. (See conditions in regards to the Law of Succession.) What nationality does that make Christian - predominantly that is?
QMII is half Swedish.
That means Frederik is half French, a quarter Swedish and a quarter Danish.
So Christian is half Australian, a quarter French, an eight Swedish and an eight Danish, right?
But Frederik IX was half German, and now a headache starts to set in!
Anybody got an answer?
Won't that make Christian the first predominantly ethnic Australian monarch?
- And if he marries an Australian, which may not be unlikely, then his firstborn will be... 100 % Australian...?
Mary is considered 100% Scottish ethnicity. But immigrating to Australia, she is considered Australian. If we go solely based on ethnicity:Okay, but the thought experiment continues.
We have Christian X = 100 % Danish, That's the premise for this discussion.
Queen Alexandrine = 100 % German. (I hope, or my head will burst!)
Queen Ingrid = 50 % Swedish, 50 % English - to keep it simple.
PH = 100 % French.
Mary. 100 % Scottish then? Or can you argue, as CrownPrincessJava has, that she is at least 50 % Australian?
With Frederik IX being?
QMII being?
And Frederik being?
So Christian is...?
Okay, but the thought experiment continues.
We have Christian X = 100 % Danish, That's the premise for this discussion.
Queen Alexandrine = 100 % German. (I hope, or my head will burst!)
Queen Ingrid = 50 % Swedish, 50 % English - to keep it simple.
PH = 100 % French.
Mary. 100 % Scottish then? Or can you argue, as CrownPrincessJava has, that she is at least 50 % Australian?
With Frederik IX being?
QMII being?
And Frederik being?
So Christian is...?
Fascinating!
Also on a personal level, because I'm married to a kind of Mary. Mrs. Muhler is adopted, so while she in every way is 110 % Danish, genetically she isn't.
Joachim's children are interesting as well. Henrik and Athena became more French, but Nikolai and Felix? - Chinese grandfather and Austrian grandmother...
And it's the same with the other royal families.
What ethnicity is Estelle?
Leonor?
Amalia?
Elisabeth?
George?
Ingrid? (Probably the easiest to work out.)
If we for simplicity go back to great-great-grandparents.
Denmark really hasn't had a truly ethnic Danish royal family for some 800 years at least.
- Would there be any interest in such a thread?
ethnicity discussion in 2021, seriously? No, please don't.
For royals themselves the house they come from is important nothing else.