Counts Ingolf (b. 1940) and Christian (1942-2013) of Rosenborg and Families

[Frelinghighness]

Sad that he never had children. Not a big deal that his rights were taken away at age 13 in my mind

 

[iceflower]

Countess Sussie of Rosenborg attended the commemoration of the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Kolding in 1849, in Christiansfeld today, April 23.

Asked why Count Ingolf did not attend she answered, it wasn't anything serious: "The count did not participate because he estimated that the one and a half kilometer long march would be too much for him. The count would like to be spared that, also to save energy for tomorrow".

Tomorrow the couple will attend the opening of Princess Benedikte's birthday exhibition "Princess Dresses" in Koldinghus.

Billed-Bladet article with a gallery of today's event:

Helt uventet: Derfor manglede greve Ingolf ved grevinde Sussies side til mindearrangement

Grevinde Sussie af Rosenborg var tirsdag alene afsted ved markeringen af 175-års dagen for Slaget ved Kolding i 1849, der fandt sted i Christiansfeld.

www.billedbladet.dk

 

[iceflower]

Count Ingolf and Countess Sussie talked to Billed-Bladet about their plans for the summer, new photos included:

Greve Ingolf og grevinde Sussie har lagt planer: Her rejser vi hen til sommer

Greve Ingolf og grevinde Sussie af Rosenborg er klar til en dejlig sommer og har allerede mange spændende planer.

www.billedbladet.dk

 

[iceflower]

Count Ingolf and Countess Sussie gave a new interview to Billed-Bladet and told about their Christmas traditions and a serious fall Count Ingolf suffered in March (he broke his pelvis in three places). By now Count Ingolf is fine again and the couple has many plans for 2025:

Så hyggeligt er der: Greve Ingolf og grevinde Sussie inviterer indenfor i deres julepyntede palæ

BILLED-BLADET har været på besøg hos greveparret af Rosenborg i deres julepyntede palæ.

www.billedbladet.dk

Greve Ingolf var hårdt ramt efter voldsom ulykke: Måtte aflyse kongelig opgave

Greve Ingolf brækkede sit bækken flere steder i marts.

www.billedbladet.dk

 

[polyesco]

Some nice words towards the King

Kong Frederik tog hurtig beslutning ved privat familiefrokost: Jamen, den sender jeg til jer

Greveparret af Rosenborg fortæller om sød gestus fra kong Frederiks side tidligere på året.

www.billedbladet.dk

 

[Alisa]

Thanks for sharing. It's good that the new royal couple continues to include Rosenborgs so that they still feel like "they belong".

 

[Muhler]

Indeed.
Ingolf has always tried to maintain a good relationship with the DRF, and that pays off in the way that he is considered a kind of honorary uncle and is invited often and gladly to family events.

 

[Muhler]

Here is an article about how Count Ingolf was told he wasn't going to be king back in 1953.

Grev Ingolf mindes skelsættende øjeblik: Sådan fik han beskeden

Grev Ingolf var 13 år gammel, da han fik den skelsættende nyhed om, at det ikke skulle være ham, der ville blive konge en dag.

www.bt.dk

The change in the Constitution and Succession was not discussed in his home, so he was told by the other children in school.

 

[blooms_rulers]

Here is an article about how Count Ingolf was told he wasn't going to be king back in 1953.

Grev Ingolf mindes skelsættende øjeblik: Sådan fik han beskeden

Grev Ingolf var 13 år gammel, da han fik den skelsættende nyhed om, at det ikke skulle være ham, der ville blive konge en dag.

www.bt.dk

The change in the Constitution and Succession was not discussed in his home, so he was told by the other children in school.

Well that’s a brutal way to find out. Any reason why his parents didn’t tell him and his brother? Were they trying to shield them?

 

[Muhler]

Well that’s a brutal way to find out. Any reason why his parents didn’t tell him and his brother? Were they trying to shield them?

Indeed!
Yes, they were probably trying to shield both Ingolf and his siblings.
As you may recall the debate at the time was pretty nasty.

 

[maria-olivia]

Count Christian 's daughters sold their Mother's tiara at Bruun Rasmussen Auction , nothing for the main line
Princess Elisabeth 's sapphire tiara was also sold at bruun Rasmussen and her Imperial Brooch went to a Museum nothing for the main Branch.
Count Ingolf owns his Mother fringe tiara and a bracelet. For his Nieces or for the main Branch ???

 

[iceflower]

Count Ingolf and Countess Sussie had a joint birthday lunch on April 2, celebrating his 85th Birthday (February 17) and her 75th birthday (February 20):

Greve Ingolf og grevinde Sussie var værter ved stor frokost: De her to ting frabad de sig

Greve Ingolf og grevinde Sussie af Rosenborg fejrede i sidste uge deres to halvrunde fødselsdage med en flot frokost. To ting blev fremhævet i invitationen.

www.billedbladet.dk

 

[Lady Ingahild]

Indeed!
Yes, they were probably trying to shield both Ingolf and his siblings.
As you may recall the debate at the time was pretty nasty.

Hey Muhler
Could you write more about that please?

 

[Prinsara]

Indeed!
Yes, they were probably trying to shield both Ingolf and his siblings.
As you may recall the debate at the time was pretty nasty.

I have never given much thought to the popular perception of Prince Knud as not very bright, nor his wife probably having to ignore and shield things as the daughter of a vocal Nazi supporter, but this… just seems like poor parenting and poor foresight, period.

Did they honestly expect no one would mention it to him?

 

[Lady Ingahild]

Count Ingolf is a man I have a lot of respect for.

He is a decent man, who in contrast to most of his family, didn't harbor ill feelings towards Frederik IX's family (perhaps with the exception of Queen Ingrid, but that's a question I will probably never learn the answer to) nor much bitterness about being bypassed as the future king.

He also tried, and succeeded, in establishing a good relationship with QMII and her children. - Again in contrast to his family, who for certainly for many years, perhaps always, had a lot of resentment towards Frederik IX and his family.
Perhaps in particular building a good relationship with Joachim. Count Ingolf knew first hand how it was to be, if not vilified, then at least resented by a considerable segment of the population. - Joachim for his personality and Count Ingolf for his looks, which of course means that he is stupid.

Which he isn't. I dare claim he was the brains in his branch of the family. I don't know how intelligent he is, but I doubt he was back in the queue when they handed brains out.

But more importantly to me at least, he is a good man. I would be very flattered if my tombstone reads that here lies a good man.
He has never exploited his situation or position. He has always lived a quiet, unassuming life and by all accounts he is well liked and well respected by those who know him. He has never complained or whined about his destiny and while being often very honest in his interviews, he has always been balanced and never vented any grudges towards QMII and her family, he might have had deep inside. He has also shown an understanding for QMII and her position.
That's wisdom.

His father, Prince Knud, was basically sacked by the Danes, because they didn't like him (and his wife) and considered him dim and unsuited - my impression is that I would tend to agree on that one.
He, Ingolf and his siblings, were also sacked by the public for being their father's children, for being ugly and awkward in public - and therefore stupid.
That would have hurt! A lot! - But it would also given him a personal ballast and wisdom, I'm sure.
Had Ingolf been king today, it is of course difficult to say whether he would have been a better or worse king than QMII, who despite her flaws is immensely respected and has managed to turn the monarchy into a very solid and highly popular institution. Helped very much by formidable daughters-in-law of course, but still. However, I think Ingolf would not have been the worst king we could have got. His wisdom and abilities to look beyond himself and his own (no doubt often hurt) feelings and willingness to reach out would have been very useful traits for any monarch.

- A big what if, and very much based on my subjective impressions of him.

what about Cristian and Elizabeth, were they bitter towards Frederik's family? I would think that Elizabeth was closest to them.