Engagement of Princess Theodora of Greece and Matthew Kumar - November 16, 2018


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Maybe there is some family hesitation to the union, from one or both sides?

Maybe there is some obstacle with the religious aspect...Matthew is experiencing difficulty with conversion to the Greek Orthodox faith?

And last...I flinch to mention it...perhaps the Greek family lawyers or the family itself are not satisfied that the groom is financially solvent enough to marry in? He is an attorney for a collection agency. That's a lucrative enough career for an "average" person.

But the married-ins in the Greek Royal family tend to have considerably more financial and social clout than Theodora's fiance.

In any case I am 100% convinced that they are not treading water because they like it this way. The couple was way too giddy and enthusiastic at the time of the announcement, looking forward to their wedding. Theodore is at an age where having children becomes a priority (assuming she wants children)

I really hope it works out soon for them.
 
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Its a long engagement ...4 years this November.
 
Moonmaiden23 said:
Maybe there is some family hesitation to the union, from one or both sides?

Maybe there is some obstacle with the religious aspect...Matthew is experiencing difficulty with conversion to the Greek Orthodox faith?

And last...I flinch to mention it...perhaps the Greek family lawyers or the family itself are not satisfied that the groom is financially solvent enough to marry in? He is an attorney for a collection agency. That's a lucrative enough career for an "average" person.

But the married-ins in the Greek Royal family tend to have considerably more financial and social clout than Theodora's fiance.

In any case I am 100% convinced that they are not treading water because they like it this way. The couple was way too giddy and enthusiastic at the time of the announcement, looking forward to their wedding. Theodore is at an age where having children becomes a priority (assuming she wants children)

I really hope it works out soon for them.
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From the 5 children of King Konstantine CP Pavlos and Prince Philippos made rich marriages. I don't think that Carlos Morales or Tatiana are especially rich. So I don't think that the financial situation of Matthew could be an issue.
As for the conversion in orthodox church if it creates an issue for him they can just do a civil wedding. But actually they are not married at all

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I think it would be hilarious if we find out they've already married and no one announced it. :)

But, who knows? Whatever their reasons, that's their business. If there's any hesitancy, they're wise to wait, just as any couple would be. Better to have a long engagement than go into a marriage that doesn't work out.
 
fandesacs2003 said:
From the 5 children of King Konstantine CP Pavlos and Prince Philippos made rich marriages. I don't think that Carlos Morales or Tatiana are especially rich. So I don't think that the financial situation of Matthew could be an issue.
As for the conversion in orthodox church if it creates an issue for him they can just do a civil wedding. But actually they are not married at all

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Carlos Morales and Tatiana Blatnick might not be wealthy, but they are socially well connected especially Tatiana.
 
Yes that's true, and they already belonged to the social circle of the Greek Royal Family, just like Nina too.
Princess Theodora and Matthew have yet to get married for some reason we don't know.
It's strange that they haven't had at least one civil ceremony yet.
 
They might have married secretely meanwhile because him accompanying Theodora to Margrethe' s jubilee was the first time both attended together at an official event.
I still wonder why he didn' t attend Philippo' s wedding.
Can' t imagine them having a big church wedding still because that had happened meanwhile. (..)
 
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At that point they will habe been engaged for over 4 1/2 years. I guess some Greek princesses like long engagements. Olga took also quite some time to get married.
 
Finally, a new date for the wedding is announced. I hope the wedding finally takes place.
 
It is a bit strange that they have postponed it for more than 4 years. We do not know the reasons, maybe they weren't always sure about their marriage. And, if they want children, it would be time to get married.
Some couples have postponed because of Corona, but many others have married this or last year. And the excuse to being able to invite lots of royal relatives and couldn't because of corona , I just don't believe it.
 
There could be lots of reasons for the long delay. The family lawyers sorting out the financial details, or perhaps a private health issue was a factor. Also, the GRF might require any non-Orthodox married ins to convert, and the conversion process is a lengthy one.

In any case I am thrilled that Theodora is finally going to have her day, three years after it was originally supposed to happen.

My fingers are crossed that it isn't delayed again by something outside the couples' control.
 
That website article didn't look like an announcement to me. It was a report about an item in a gossip column. In fact, the story says that the family has NOT announced a location or date.

Was there some other reference?
 
The Royal House has not issued any official statement, in conclusion the date of early summer 2023, this is not official, this is a rumor.
However, the rumor has credibility, because it comes from people close to the designer Celia Kritharioti especially , she is the designer of the wedding dress, and she is also the designer for Queen Anne Marie and Princess Tatiana, and from other Greek designers, who have designed the dresses of the greek wedding guests . Fom these same sources was born the date of the wedding of Filippos and Nina.
The date exact, at the moment , it is not know, only, Summer 2023.

The wedding was going to be held in May 2020, in Spetses, so it is assumed that it will be celebrated there.
 
I remember that in 2020, it was published, a month before, the rumor that the wedding was on hold due to covid, based on the prohibition established in Greece of this type of event.... But I recognize that this information which states that it will be in the summer of 2023, is a rumour, this may or may not be true, but, but unlike 2020, the statement does not have a basis, that is, a source, it is a journalist who makes that statement but does not say where does it come from.
I try to explain that it would be more credible for me, if the origin or basis of the news or the rumor, were the residents of Spetses who work in the hotels on the island, but curiously the local press of Spetses did not know about this new date.
In conclusion, I would not rule out that the wedding could be before, even in this year 2022
 
I wonder what is causing the delays,the poor health of the king?
 
If anything, I would think she would want to marry without delay so that her can be present?
 
Her brother managed to get engaged and married since his sister's engagement. And indeed, especially with a father whose health is deteriorating postponing would seem the least likely thing to do.
 
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I have the feeling that some members of the greek royal family don' t like Matthew but since Theo is of age they couldn' t avoid the engagement. Otherwise she had married him already in 2019.
Konstantin' s health seems to dereorate other than getting better so IMO it doesn' t make sense to wait for him to improve. Just my opinion. If we are not allowed to speculate then we can close this thread because we might never find out.
 
Is Theodora active on her Instagram account?
Does she post regularly photos where she is together with Matthew?
Does she radiate with happiness?
 
stef said:
The Royal House has not issued any official statement, in conclusion the date of early summer 2023, this is not official, this is a rumor.
However, the rumor has credibility, because it comes from people close to the designer Celia Kritharioti especially , she is the designer of the wedding dress, and she is also the designer for Queen Anne Marie and Princess Tatiana, and from other Greek designers, who have designed the dresses of the greek wedding guests . Fom these same sources was born the date of the wedding of Filippos and Nina.
The date exact, at the moment , it is not know, only, Summer 2023.

The wedding was going to be held in May 2020, in Spetses, so it is assumed that it will be celebrated there.
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If you go back and look at post 90 in this thread, you'll see that the dress designer supposedly told the media the date of the wedding two years ago. Not a very credible source.
 
Matthew Kumar was there at King Constantine's funeral.

Any recent news about Theodora and Matthew's wedding?
 
The last news was days after the burial of King Constantine, the news came from people close to the Greek designer, Celia Kritharioti (the designer of the wedding dress), it said that Princess Theodora had spoken with the designer to inform the wedding had been suspended. . At the moment the princess has not set a new date for the big event.
Regarding Matthew, he has been part of the family for a long time, he spent his summers, including Christmas in the house of King Constantine and Queen Anna Maria in Porto Xeli, and even Queen Margrethe of Denmark invited him to her birthday , as her niece's husband.He is member of the Family.
 
He and Theodora probably already live together.
 
:previous: I wonder if Matthew and Theodora would like to start a family?

I really do hope to finally, somewhere somehow, see this wedding take place!:ermm:
 
Theodora can get pregnant even without being formally married to Mathew; in XXI century it's not a reason to be ashamed.
 
I never understand why some couple is engaged but never married. It's not even about pregnancy, I'm totally fine with children out of wedlock. I know some cohabiting couple simply prefers no marriage, but for T&M if they decide to be engaged then I expect they are looking for a formal marriage. I know some engaged couple has to delay their wedding/marriage due to difficulties, mostly financial issues, which I doubt it's T&M's issue. I wonder if they've already completed the paperwork/civil wedding, and just suspended the ceremony?
 
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W.Y.CII said:
I never understand why some couple is engaged but never married. It's not even about pregnancy, I'm totally fine with children out of wedlock. I know some cohabiting couple simply prefers no marriage, but for T&M if they decide to be engaged then I expect they are looking for a formal marriage. I know some engaged couple has to delay their wedding/marriage due to difficulties, mostly financial issues, which I doubt it's T&M's issue. I wonder if they've already completed the paperwork/civil wedding, and just suspended the ceremony?
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I agree. The wedding had been postponed because of Corona, now it is postponed probably because of King Constantine's death. He is a member of the family, they have been engaged for many years. I just cannot see a reason for not having been married long ago. Maybe it is something we just don't know.
They have not broken their engagment, he was at the funeral etc.
Other people who were engaged found out it wasn't the right person (like Louis of Lux) and they quit, which is quite ok.
 
Biri said:
Theodora can get pregnant even without being formally married to Mathew; in XXI century it's not a reason to be ashamed.
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Not if you are a member of the defunct Greek Royal Family.

Not gonna happen.:cool:
 
I think that Theodora and Matthew live together for a long time. They live together, but they have been engaged since 2018 and I want to remember that Nikolaos and Tatiana also lived together before they got married, and before their engagement.....
This wedding has been postponed, first due to the covid, although Filippos demonstrated that the covid was not an impediment to getting married, and then, due to the death of the King. The delay in time has had a very sad consequence for Theodora, her father did not seen her married. it is sad.
 
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