Moonmaiden23
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No, I haven't. I'm at work now, so obviously I can't Google those images.
Sonjapearl, whatever you do DON'T GOOGLE SOFIA AT WORK.
No, I haven't. I'm at work now, so obviously I can't Google those images.
Surely you must be exaggerating?
I think I have seen the photos tihkon2 is referring to...I am passionately interested in the ill-fated Romanovs and I own several books about them.
There is a coffee table book called The Lost World of Nicholas and Alexandra or something like that...Tsar Nicky apparently liked to swim nude in the Gulf of Finland while on holiday. And there is a photographic record of it.
his Grandmother is probably crapping in her Depends
What an impression to make with your first post. A pretty grubby comment.
I don't think this can be put on the protection officers. Their job is to protect him from danger, not babysit him.
I see.
In the Gulf of Finland you say? I'm surprised there'd have been much to 'spy' given how cold it can get!
And in comparison to what Edward VII would have done in his youth, I think Henry is relatively tame. Those Victorian's were a depraved lot when it came to nudity, alcohol, sex and gambling. Times are of course changed but it would seem every generation has them.
It was a joke.
For the record I agree with the poster who said many of Harry's bad decisions center around booze...a while back he leapt into a fountain fully clothed with a bevy of young women when he had been drinking(in the Czech Republic?)..and I remember reading that he almost accidently knocked down a young lady he was dancing with too vigorously after he had drank one too many at his brother's wedding night dance.
There is a photo of him stumbling drunk out of a nightclub with one of his York cousins and he has drink spilled down the front of his shirt.
I'm not trying to put it on the officers, I am just trying to understand their job. Don't they usually clean up messes and try taking care of them when they are completely intoxicated to the point they are not making good decisions? Which could be why these pics are out there because maybe he just got too drunk and was unable to make good decisions for himself. Do they usually step in? I'm just asking to better understand it.
As is the case with any other high-profile royal, the primary role of Harry's protection officers is to ensure his personal security in as discreet a way as possible.
They are not, say senior Scotland Yard sources, accountable for his 'moral welfare'. That is the responsibility of his father and his aides.
Carrying out their duties without being overly intrusive is a difficult balancing act at the best of times.
I'm not trying to put it on the officers, I am just trying to understand their job. Don't they usually clean up messes and try taking care of them when they are completely intoxicated to the point they are not making good decisions? Which could be why these pics are out there because maybe he just got too drunk and was unable to make good decisions for himself. Do they usually step in? I'm just asking to better understand it.
You're talking about when he went to Croatia, is my guess. He was drunk, lost balance, fell into the pool (he was dancing beside it), crawled out of it and continued dancing. Alone, might I add. There is a video somewhere.I have been reading excerpts from the new book on the life of Edward VII that have been serialised in the London Daily Mail...God you are NOT exaggerating.
"Bertie" made Harry and the many of the current lot of Royal men look like Sunday school parsons!
For the record I agree with the poster who said many of Harry's bad decisions center around booze...a while back he leapt into a fountain fully clothed with a bevy of young women when he had been drinking(in the Czech Republic?)..and I remember reading that he almost accidently knocked down a young lady he was dancing with too vigorously after he had drank one too many at his brother's wedding night dance.
There is also a photo of him stumbling drunk out of a nightclub with one of his York cousins and he has drink spilled down the front of his shirt.
And here I was thinking jokes were supposed to be humerous My bad.
Then if he cannot hold his own, he should steer clear of it. Obviously he is a keen social drinker but when he drinks he evidently either drinks to excess and cannot self manage or is unable to hold it.
This is perhaps something which needs to be addressed with those closest to him. I remember those photo's from some years back of Henry in the gutter having left a nigh club and then stumbling, poorly, into a car. The problem, from my view point, is that he is still acting in a way that cannot solely be attributed to his youth anymore. And what of self descipline? Surely a military serviceman should know a thing or two about that.
He's a fine specimen, of that there is no doubt, but he's about to turn 28 and is still acting out like a 19 year old on occasion. Surely there comes a time when it is no longer socially appropriate to do so?
As third in line to the throne and part of the "inner" group of royals, he will be one of the best-protected members of the establishment. However, photographs released by celebrity website TMZ appearing to show the Prince naked but for some jewellery during a holiday in Las Vegas will raise questions over how closely he is monitored. Dai Davies, the former head of royal protection at the Metropolitan Police Service, said it was a job that required balancing the demands of his high-profile status with his youthful pursuits.
Am I the only person who thinks Prince Harry has utterly disgraced himself in Las Vegas? The answer to that is, I suspect, no. Captain Wales, as he is known in the Army Air Corps, is likely to get a severe dressing down from his commanding officer when they next come face-to-face.
Here is the thing with this whole bruhaha. Harry is 28 years old. Why does everyone still talk about him like he is a teenager. He 28! pushing 30. My brother is 28, I am 3 years older than him. My parents expect us to act like grownups.
My problem with this is he just needs to start using his brain (I know he has one) and grow up. This whole episode was totally avoidable if he used his god given brain.
Here is the thing with this whole bruhaha. Harry is 28 years old. Why does everyone still talk about him like he is a teenager. He 28! pushing 30. My brother is 28, I am 3 years older than him. My parents expect us to act like grownups.
My problem with this is he just needs to start using his brain (I know he has one) and grow up. This whole episode was totally avoidable if he used his god given brain.
I'm not psychoanalyzing the man, it is however evident that the consumption of alcohol is an ongoing issue. He quite clearly drinks to excess or cannot manage it and as such acts without inhibition.
Excuses cannot be forthcoming forever. It needs to be addressed.
So apparently Harry drinks himself into a state where he is totally unable to exercise good judgment or common sense. He has a problem with alcohol.
I loathe armchair psychology and generally try to avoid it. But I have always suspected that Harry deals with the submerged pain and trauma of the loss of his mother by drinking and acting out at times.
In the weeks and months that followed Diana's funeral I remember hearing or reading that the then 12-13 year old Harry was seen crying in class, and there was some discussion of pulling him out for the remainder of the term.
The idea was broached with the Prince of Wales, but the decision was made that Harry would stay at school and complete his term.
I felt then and I still feel that Charles did an amazing job as a single parent under the most horrible circumstances...but perhaps something in his younger son's emotional/psychological development went by him unaddressed?