Ok, that's fine.
It's just that some of us might want to 'see' what you have seen and that can happen by providing links to photos and videos and articles etc. I'm certainly open to the idea that William might be undergoing some career/future role/personal stress, but I don't think (if he is, indeed, under any stress at the moment) that it's related to Kate or his marriage.
As an example, I posted links previously to the following photos William and Kate walking in the park:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/320775/WILLIAM-KATE-MATCH.jpg
William and Kate walking on the beach:
http://belieber.files.wordpress.com...ton-prince-william-puppy-cocker-spaniel-3.jpg
William and Kate at his cousin's June 9th wedding (several photos in this article of what the Daily Mail calls 'adoring William'):
Kate Middleton looks demure as she and William attend wedding of Princess Diana's niece | Mail Online
and to those I add the last photo in this post, taken yesterday:
Duchess Kate: Updated: Kate and Lupo Watch William Play Polo
these links and photos - all taken when he was not doing royal duties - indicate to me that William's marriage to Kate is fine.
Firstly, this all began because I was agreeing with a poster that William and Kate do not present as an affectionate couple. The comment the poster made was:
it's IMHO quite noticeable that the Cambridge couple is the one which shows the least signs of affection or even warm interaction in public. I agreed. They are friendly but as a couple into each other - the vibe isn't there for some people when they watch them (that's from someone who has pm'd me, too).
I then went further and indicated that I have been seeing evidence of William expressing displeasure to Kate in public, and whatever he was sharing seemed not to be making her happy - and then I was asked to give evidence of that. That's when I went into a series of photos supplied and came across the group of photos of William on the balcony being what appeared to be cross and Kate not at all happy. I wasn't even looking for them - so I showed them
as an illustration of what I was talking about. I've done what was asked of me - supplied evidence, though I indicated that this could become a case of 'dueling photos'.
You supply the above photos as evidence of 'all is well'. Well, I put my hand on someone's back occasionally, too - even strangers as I am squiring them about, or trying to steer them in a particular direction - depends on what's happening. Doesn't of itself say anything. The other snaps are pleasant enough - except the park one, that one has always been a bit odd, I've never felt at ease when viewing those - but nothing about them is determinative except to say that they hold hands. I will quote myself:
Evidence is given in photos of happiness and harmony - but a whole sequence showing disquiet cannot be interpreted as disquiet? How does that work - tell me again?
As someone posted the picture of Diana and Charles dancing happily - and yet they were having problems - well, my point is made. Exactly. One photo, one event does not a compote make. We can be deceived. So why should your interpretation of photos that all is well supercede my interpretation of other photos that all is not well?
I wasn't even looking for these pictures - had no idea they were even there - and this is what I found among a whole sequence of such pictures - these are only 3 out of several -
What is stopping William from placing his arm around Kate - like he did last year? He had no problem showing 'support'
and affection last year - and posters here gushed at how nice it was to see William being protective and caring of Kate. The pictures I show above - and all the balcony pictures - from even both balcony events - does William ever reach out to Kate? Lay his hand even near her? What's up? Instead he stands there like his arms are in a body cast. Its just plain not affectionate what he is doing. But last year he seemed plenty able to be affectionate - both stood close, his arm around her - 'so sweet'. Remember that?
Contrary to what others may think or how others approach debate/argument - I very often do not know what I think until I say it.
Ideas come to me as I go, off-the-cuff - and I have to admit that my views have expanded a bit in this conversation.
My point initially was that I agreed that they are not affectionate in public. Then I considered what I have been seeing here and there, and then I was made aware that there was a pattern starting from pretty far back in the year, and so I said:
Fact is, William may not be the kind of man people are assuming he is - my hunch - based on what I see of him and hear from him. It won't be the first time a public image has diverged from the private reality.
I want to thank Daria_S for the added observations. Yes, he stood there on the balcony like in total disconnect:
I saw a scowl on William's face and Catherine looking like she wanted to disappear was on the day of the Jubilee Pageant. [...] I noticed at Trooping the Colour is that William wasn't really engaging with anyone. He appeared to be somewhere else entirely, and when he was engaging, it was like he was responding to noise. Catherine looked rather stressed, and tired. I also thank Princess Peach:
I don't think Tyger is wrong about all of the photographs of the couple at the last few royal events. I noticed the same thing, and I am a big fan of the couple, for a variety of reasons.
So what's going on? He's a public figure and by his age of 30 he should know the drill.
If Camilla demonstrated anywhere near William's lack of positive presence at a public event - how much slack would anyone give her?
I floated that William was more like his Uncle Spencer - but maybe he's more like his Grandfather Phillip - maybe he's another Anne, giving everybody 'what for' up there on the balcony.
All this stuff about William being under pressure is as much projection, surmise, rumor, fabrication as anything I am saying. It's a level playing field here. The narrative I hear from everyone - and read respectfully - is as much a conjuring as mine if you would have it so. However, it hangs together - it could be so - though I have to say I do not find the Cambridge's work schedule overwhelming and certainly not tiring for 30 year olds. If 2 weeks of royal duties makes William sufficiently cranky that he is unable to maintain a pleasant demeanor in public, then we have a very interesting future to look forward to, I would say.
Seems like a lot of dime store psychobabel going on here, intrepretting photos and videos (which are not provided for all to see). Apparently it is OK for some posters to engage in fostering rumours but when a tabloid does exactly the same thing we condemn them for it.
Psychobabel? If you think that then its all that. Every opinion you voice, too.
Fostering rumors? Can we then equally say that people are 'fostering rumors' that - take your pick - the marriage is happy-ever-after - or, William is a cupcake of a guy, or, whatever - as long as its in keeping with the prevailing (fan) narrative?
I don't think that Tyger has said she thinks there is anything wrong between them as a couple. I thought she did to start with, but now I (think, hope) understand. William is seemingly preoccupied, not always "engaged" and this is noticiable (to Tyger) on formal occasions. And Catherine is trying to be positive and supportive and he's not responding.
If he is worrying over something (like his future - no small thing) then I think his behaviour is understandable.
Tyger - hope you don't mind me "speaking" on your behalf
I for sure don't mind, but just to clarify, though - close but not quite. I am seeing William being unpleasant to Kate in public - she is clearly disquieted in the photos. I see Kate as far more relaxed and at ease with other members of the BRF than with William in public
sometimes. Does this mean there is a problem between them? Maybe not - but there is certainly something odd going on with William that he would be acting this way - and that's when I start thinking about his background.
I don't believe that failing to maintain a gentlemanly stance beside one's wife, in public -
before the nation - is 'understandable'. He has a job up there on the balcony and he's not doing it except to be physically present. His attitude is disrespectful to 'his people' imo. He gets no pass from me and I'm not even one of his subjects.