Royal Cousins

[andrew]

Crown-Princess Margaret of Romania, apart from the cousins from her father's side is:
-second cousin of Grand-duke Henri
-second cousin of Archduke Karl, son of Otto de Habsburg
-third cousin of king Harald(fourth through her father)
-third cousin of Queen Margrethe
-third cousin of Albert II

[fearghas]

Originally Posted by magnik

Yes.
1. Carl (1804-1856) Furst von Leiningen 1814-1856 married 1829-1848 div, with Marie Grafin Klebelsberg (1806-1880)- son Ernst (1830-1904) married with Marie Zahringen, Princes von Baden (1834-1899) two children. Leiningen
2. Feodore (1807-1872) Princess von Leiningen married with Ernst, Prince zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1794-1860) six children. Hohenlohe


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Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Feodara granddaughter, Dona of S.H.S.A., Married Victorias grandson, Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany.

[Leslie2006]

Originally Posted by Royal Fan

How is the Last Tsar (Nicholas II) Related to Elizabeth II

Nicholas II and his wife Alexandra were both first cousins to George V (Alexandra's mother Alice was a sister to George's father Edward VII; George and Nicholas' mothers, Dagmar (Marie Feodorovna) and Alix, were sisters.) So...Nicholas II would either be a second cousin or a second cousin twice removed to Elizabeth II through the Danish line, but I'm not sure. Anyone else know?

Christian IX - Alix - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II
Christian IX - MF - Nicholas II

She was also related to Nicholas II's wife Alexandra through Queen Victoria:

QV - Alice - Alix
QV - EVII - George V - George VI - Elizabeth II

AND Nicholas II and his wife, Alexandra, were also second cousins to each other.

[Leslie2006]

Actually, now that I've looked at it again I think they'd be FIRST cousins twice removed. Second cousins mean they're the same generation, and NII and EII obviously wouldn't be.

[fearghas]

they are second cousins twice removed.
Second cousins are of the same generation, the twice removed indicates how many generations further on one is from the other

[Next Star]

Queen Elizabeth II of The UK and her husband Prince Philp,Duke of Edinburg are third cousins. Grand Herni of Luxembourg and Prince Carlos -Hugo of Bourbon-Parma are second cousins.

[Sg1fan]

Who is the link in the Grimaldi tree that hooks them into the rest of the royal families? I had no clue that the Grimaldi family were cousins of any sort to the royals! That's exciting new for me!

[Warren]

The common hook is Johann Georg II, Prince of Anhalt-Dessau (d 1693).
From him descend the current Heads and Monarchs of Albania, Austria, Bavaria, Belgium, Denmark, Great Britain, Greece, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden.

The Monaco descent:
Johann Georg II > Henriette Amalie > Jan Willem Friso, Prince of Orange > Anna Charlotte > Karl Friedrich, Grand Duke of Baden > Karl Ludwig > Karl, Grand Duke of Baden > Marie > Mary (dau of the 11th Duke of Hamilton) > Louis II, Prince of Monaco > Charlotte > Rainier III > Albert II.

source: Burke's Royal Families of the World, Vol I

[Sg1fan]

Thank you Warren, that's so very exciting! I had researched my genealogy and found I had some relationships shared with some of the royal families, but I never considered that the Grimaldi family had shared any of those connections!

[kyansaunt20]

Prince Amedeo of Belgium and his siblings are cousins to the Luxembourg on both sides of their family. On their mom's side King Albert II was brother to Grand Duchess Charlotte Henri's Mother. On their father's side Empress Zita (nee Bourbon-Parma) Amedeo's great grandmother and Felix of Bourbon-Parma were brother and sister. Felix of Bourbon-Parma is the father of Grand Duke Jean and grandfather of the reigning Duke Henri.

[Melania]

I don't know where I found this chart. I've had it saved on my computer for awhile. I thought I would share post it, but I didn't know where exactly, so I am posting it here. Maybe it might help when trying to understand the relationships between royal families.

[LadyMacAlpine]

Originally Posted by Warren

The common hook is Johann Georg II, Prince of Anhalt-Dessau (d 1693).
From him descend the current Heads and Monarchs of Albania, Austria, Bavaria, Belgium, Denmark, Great Britain, Greece, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden.

The Monaco descent:
Johann Georg II > Henriette Amalie > Jan Willem Friso, Prince of Orange > Anna Charlotte > Karl Friedrich, Grand Duke of Baden > Karl Ludwig > Karl, Grand Duke of Baden > Marie > Mary (dau of the 11th Duke of Hamilton) > Louis II, Prince of Monaco > Charlotte > Rainier III > Albert II.

source: Burke's Royal Families of the World, Vol I

This is the one most know of. The Duke of Hamilton also has Royal ties to the Windsors, Hanovers and cousins to the Spencers through Diana's grandmother. Instead of trying to list it this is a link to the Grimaldi Ancestors where you can find the information several of us have posted. Rainier's parents were also cousins.

[Lighthouse]

The royals are uncomfortably close but I think a lot of us commoners are also closer related than we realise. We just don't have our family trees perfectly recorded going back hundreds of years so we can work it all out.

A lot of us commoners are also related to royals so marrying commoners doesn't automatically guarantee to adequately dilute the blood line. For instance I'm a commoner descended from Australian pioneers in the 1700s but I'm also related to Eugenie Empress of France (through her mother) who was of Scottish Closeburn stock like me. We'd be cousins to some degree. I guess my point is that it seems the whole world is related nowadays no matter where we live or our social backgrounds.

[LadyMacAlpine]

Genealogy chart of Johann Georg II showing Royal Cousins, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Sweden, Belgium, Spain, Great Britain, Monaco and Liechtenstein from Special Royals Issue of Life the summer 1998. I split the first chart into two parts to make the names easier to read.

Chart 1, Chart 2, Chart 3

I also just ran a program that says Johann Georg II is a descendant of Kenneth I of Scotland. Ancestors of Johann Georg II, Prinz von Anhalt-Dessau up to Cináed I(Kenneth I), king of Scotland: click here.

[crownprincessrhey]

what do you mean by twice removed???
i also wonder how they interact with each other. I mean my cousins and I are close especially the first and 2nd cousins..are they also close???

[Maura724]

Lady MacAlpine - I love your charts, that's really helpful to see it all drawn out like that.

crownprincessrhey - It's sort of hard to explain how removals and so on work without being able to draw you a diagram, but I'll try to do it in words. First cousins, of course, are people whose parents are siblings and who have the same grandparents. For instance, Frederik of Denmark and Alexia of Greece are first cousins because their mothers (Margrethe and Anne-Marie) are sisters and they share Frederik IX and Ingrid as grandparents. Frederik and Alexia's children - say, Christian and Arrietta Morales - are 2nd cousins. 2nd cousins have parents who are first cousins. When Christian and Arrietta both have kids of their own, those kids will be 3rd cousins, then the grandkids will be 4th cousins, and so on through future generations.

Here's how removals work. A lot of people think that since Fred and Alexia are first cousins, Fred's son Christian is Alexia's 2nd cousin and her daughter Arrietta is Fred's 2nd cousin. This is not true. When you move between generations, you have a removal. You look back to the nearest generational pair - in this case Fred and Alexia - and then you count how many generations back it was - in this case one. So Christian is Alexia's 1st cousin, once removed. Christian's children will be two generations away from Fred and Alexia, so Alexia and those kids will be 1st cousins, twice removed. Christian's children and Arrietta (Alexia's daughter) will be 2nd cousins (going back to the pair of Christian and Arrietta) once removed (going one generation down).

Does that make sense?

[crownprincessrhey]

thank you very much maura, it was really helpful...i learned a lot...thanks again

[Leslie2006]

The Scandinavian heirs are fairly closely related through Oscar II of Sweden and Queen Victoria of England:

Frederick and Victoria are double second cousins:

QV ----->Arthur ------>Margaret ----->Gustaf ------>Carl XVI Gustaf ----> Victoria

QV ---->Edward VII--->Margaret ----->Ingrid -------> Margrethe II ------> Frederick

Oscar II ----->Gustaf V -----> Gustaf VI Adolf ------>Ingrid ------> Margrethe II -----> Frederick

Oscar II ----->Gustaf V -----> Gustaf VI Adolf ------>Gustaf------->Carl XVI Gustaf ------> Victoria

Victoria is a third cousin, once removed to Haakon:

Oscar II ----->Carl ------>Martha ----->Harald V ----->Haakon
Oscar II------>Gustaf V-->Gustaf VI Adolf--->Gustaf---->Carl XVI Gustaf ---->Victoria

Frederick is also a third cousin, once removed to Haakon:

Oscar II ----->Gustaf V ----->Gustaf VI Adolf ----> Ingrid ----> Margrethe II ----> Frederick

Oscar II ----->Carl --------->Martha------------>Harald V------> Haakon

[SLV]

Pfffew.... I'd love to see a proper tree of the connections between all these royals. With colours for the different families etc. Written in words it stays confusing.
But then, one would need to take at least a sabbatical to have time enough to make it.

[Furienna]

I'm sorry, Leslie, but I think you made some mistakes. If I'm not totally wrong, the common ancestry to Queen Victoria should be like this:

Victoria ---> Edward ---> Maud ---> Olav ---> Harald ---> Haakon

Victoria ---> Arthur ---> Margareth --- > Gustaf Adolf --- > Carl Gustaf ---> Victoria

Victoria ---> Arthur ---> Margareth --- > Ingrid ---> Margarethe ---> Frederick


And let's not forget either, that the Norvegian royal family actually is a part of the Danish royal family.

Frederick VIII ---> Christian X ---> Frederick IX ---> Margarethe II ---> Frederick

Frederick VIII ---> Carl/Haakon ---> Olav V ---> Harald V ---> Haakon