Italian Noble and Princely Families 2: July 2007- - Page 27

**MAfan** · #**521** 02-24-2015, 03:37 AM

I suppose he is regarded as such. According to the newspaper article about the funeral, that I have posted, Pierre attended it with Beatrice, her sisters and their husbands.

Lenora · #**522** 03-07-2015, 05:22 PM

There is a little information about italian aristocracy of our days.

I don't exactly know where to post it, but I came across instagram of an " apparently" italian noble ( judging his surname and prefix " di") Jordan di Lungarini.

I googled, but I haven't found any concrete information.

Could it happen that he has noble roots?

Link below:

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**MAfan** · #**523** 03-13-2015, 02:34 PM

The prefix "di" or "de" before a surname per se doesn't mean that the family is noble.
There was a family from Sicily (IIRC) that has/had among its titles that of Marquess of Lungarini, but I don't know anything about the genealogy of that family, whether it is stille extant or not and who it's members are.

Lenora · #**524** 03-13-2015, 03:02 PM

Thank you for reply.

Neither found I anything specific.

Duc_et_Pair · #**525** 03-14-2015, 05:50 AM

"di" means "son (daughter) of"

Di Gregorio (son of Gregory)
Di Bernardo (son of Bernhard)
Di Giovanni (son of John)
Di Nardo (son of Leonard)
Di Ruggiero (son of Roger)

For me Di Lungarini means: son of Hungarians (del ungharesi) in the course of times abbreviated to Di Lungarini.

Lenora · #**526** 03-14-2015, 06:02 AM

Thank you for detailed explanation.

So maybe this Instagram Lungarini just uses an apparent "di" for noble reasons, if that's his real surname of couse.

Duc_et_Pair · #**527** 03-14-2015, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenora

Thank you for detailed explanation.

So maybe this Instagram Lungarini just uses an apparent "di" for noble reasons, if that's his real surname of couse.

Well "di" does not necessarily indicate nobility. Just a grab of Italian noble surnames: Notarbartolo, d'Ondes, Paternò Castello, Aldobrandini, Colonna, Lucchesi Palli, Rospigliosi, Borghese, Ruspoli, Chigi, Torlonia, Pallavicini, etc. All very blueblooded, without "di"...

cdm · #**528** 04-13-2015, 07:26 AM

Does anyone know the name of the baby of Marta Ferri and Carlo Borromeo?

cdm · #**529** 04-14-2015, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Biri

Carlo Borromeo (b.11 March 1982) [son of Carlo Borromeo, Count of Arona (b.1935) and Countess Paola Marzotto (b.1955)] & his wife Marta, nee Ferri (b.1984) [daughter of Fabrizio Ferri and his wife Barbara, nee Frua] had their first child, Cristoforo, sometime this year.

For Countess Paola it's a debut as a grandma, whereas the Count of Arona has eight more grandchildren.

Source: https://sites.google.com/site/myroya...al-information

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Originally Posted by sjetajiem

Don Carlo has eight more grandchildren
Daughter Isabella, married to Ugo dei Conti Brachetti Peretti, has one daughter Angera and two sons Ludovico and Federico.
Lavinia, married to Jaci Elkan has two sons Leone and Oceano and one daughter Vita
Matilde married to Prince Antonius von Fürstenberg has two sons Carl Egon and Alexander

Ah thanks

Well together with Sasha, his new sister and Raphaël, Beatrice and Pierre have nice pool of nieces and nephews to choose from when they have to pick their bridesmaids and pages!

sjetajiem · #**530** 04-14-2015, 03:16 AM

Well the most important nephew and niece, Jacques and Gabriella will be to small for being page and bridesmaid

cdm · #**531** 04-14-2015, 08:41 AM

They aren't a niece and nephew of Pierre but his cousins like Louis Pauline and Camille.

Biri · #**532** 04-14-2015, 09:26 AM

They are Pierre's cousins, but they will probably call him "uncle" when they grow older, for the reason of a generation's age difference.

fandesacs2003 · #**533** 04-14-2015, 10:00 AM

Jacques will become one day the ruler. I do not think that he will grow up calling his cousin "uncle"

Biri · #**534** 04-14-2015, 11:02 AM

A form "Serene Highness" is now used only in contact with subjects or officials. In their own family circle royals also use words "uncle, "aunt" while talking with a much older relative, like in a "normal" family.

**MAfan** · #**535** 06-14-2015, 02:07 PM

Don Barnabò Visconti di Modrone, Duke of Grazzano Visconti, Count of Lonate Pozzolo, passed away on 12 June 2015, aged 85.

He was born on 11 march 1930, the eldest son of Don Luigi Visconti di Modrone (who in 1942 succeeded as Duke of Grazzano Visconti) and of his first wife, née Countess Maddalena Arrivabene-Valenti-Gonzaga.
He marrie three times: firstly to Luciana (of the Marquesses) Avati; secondly to Marta Nistri Ranelletti; thirdly to Francesca Scarsini. He had a daughter and a son, Violante and Gian Galeazzo, by his first wife and two daughters, Ilaria and Valentina, by his second wife.
He is survived by his four children, their spouses and ten grandchildren.

BARNABÒ VISCONTI DI MODRONE - Scheda Defunto - Necrologi Corriere della Sera

Duc_et_Pair · #**536** 06-16-2015, 11:54 AM

Thanks, that was an interesting read, the necrologies in the Corriere della Sera. Why is the late Barnabò more referred with his title Visconti di Modrone than with (on first sight) the more senior title Duca di Grazzano Visconti?

JR76 · #**537** 06-16-2015, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Thanks, that was an interesting read, the necrologies in the Corriere della Sera. Why is the late Barnabò more referred with his title Visconti di Modrone than with (on first sight) the more senior title Duca di Grazzano Visconti?

Isn't Visconti di Modrone his surname while Duca di Grazzano Visconti is his title?

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**MAfan** · #**538** 06-17-2015, 12:58 PM

Yes, Visconti di Modrone is indeed the surname and Duca di Grazzano Visconti is the title (which is - besides - not officially recognized in Italy, like all noble titles in general).

Blog Real · #**539** 10-11-2015, 02:58 PM

After two years of dating, Francisco Calheiros and Elena Ravano decided to unite their destiny before God.
The groom is the son of the Counts of Calheiros (portuguese noble). The bride is the daughter of Rita Zanardi Landi and Paolo Ravano, a well-known family of North aristocracy of Italy. And it was in Italy held the wedding.
Wedding photos:
http://www.vip.pt/sites/default/file...?itok=yhnwOM9T
http://www.vip.pt/sites/default/file...?itok=ZHH8F7g8
Filho do conde de Calheiros - Casamento luxuoso e de sonho | VIP.pt

Information on the bride's family?

morgane · #**540** 11-17-2015, 09:37 AM

I've been reading about the Ruspoli family quite a bit recently (Dado Ruspoli and his wives and children)... I was stunned to find out that his last wife was 40 years his junior! Is there any info about her on the internet, because I'm not finding any except that she was a french model?
Also, one of Dado's sons was married to Olivia Wilde which is quite funny tome (in a good way)