The Chances of Restoration of Monarchy in Iran

[Biri]

Originally Posted by BrazilianEmpire

1. Norway - Constitutional Monarchy.
2. Sweden - Constitutional Monarchy.
3. Iceland - Parliamentary Republic.
4. Denmark - Constitutional Monarchy.
5. New Zealand - Constitutional Monarchy.
6. Australia - Constitutional Monarchy.
7. Switzerland - Parliamentary Republic.
8. Canada - Constitutional Monarchy.
9. Finland - Parliamentary Monarchy.
10. The Netherlands - Constitutional Monarchy.

Iran will be much better with an Emperor.

These ones are monarchies only in paper; the Queen doesn't live there.

Finland is a Parliamentary Republic; The current President is Sauli Niinisto.

[Lenora]

I see no chances of restoration in Iran.

[Cory]

Many people would be interested in Monarchy but Prince Reza does not speak about the return of Monarchy.

[sancakli70]

I think its exist when a revolution in iran is

[King Ursa Major]

Originally Posted by Cory

It is rather strange Prince Reza does not speak about the Restoration of Monarchy.

Most heirs of Monarchies that were Abolished do that. "Its up to the people" they say. Quite frankly, it is, but yeah it is a little weird. If I was a heir to a fallen Monarchy I would be giving Lectures on how it should be brought back.

I would be like, "I dont care if its like England's Monarchy, were i'm a symbol and have barely any power, or like Saudi Arabia, were I have 100% of the power. As long as the system is back, I could care less,"

[Cory]

He does not want Monarchy even he wants a change of regime:

Shah’s son seeks support for people’s revolution against Iran - The Globe and Mail

[Cory]

Reza Pahlavi - Pahlavi promotes ‘own vision’ for Iran

[Thumbahlina]

Originally Posted by Lenora

I see no chances of restoration in Iran.

UN Security Council endorses Iran deal

A monarchy in Iran, well, there was the Arab Conquest, I do not know of Iran ever having a monarchy. I looked it up. I found that: Iran has been an empire, a republic, had a golden age, and a dynasty mainly the dynasty pertains to the Muslim faith, Safavid dynasty, and I am not going to go looking all that detail up further to continue. Respectfully. They have some world cultural sites, UNESCO World Heritage for Iran .

I do not find much interest in Middle Eastern history, I appreciate it, however. It is kind of a controversial one.

Just posted here as a reference to look stuff up and learn something..

[Thumbahlina]

Originally Posted by Cory

Many people would be interested in Monarchy but Prince Reza does not speak about the return of Monarchy.

Quoting for topic reference to learn. Ok Prince Reza, is? Oh wow, a Persian. AN actual Iranian Royal. I had to look it up. Sorry. First I have heard of the person. His son passed away. He is a pretender to the throne what that means is, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretender , a pretender is someone who lays claim to a throned position that has either been abolished, or claims entitlement to a position of honor or rank that is unavailable.

So Prince Reza is Prince Reza Pahlavi is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Pahlavi Someone who is not an imposter, but actually held a position and Reza Pahlavi is the founder and leader of National Council of Iran, a government in exile of Iran. *the (edit)

Says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farah_Pahlavi was his consort.

More wiki:
On his website, Reza Pahlavi has said that the state of Iran should become democratic and secular, and human rights should be respected. Whether the form of government would be that of a constitutional monarchy or a republic is something that he would like to leave up to the people of Iran.[24][25]


I do not know. But when he learned to be a pilot with the AMerican Military, it says on wiki : Shortly thereafter, at the start of the Iran–Iraq War, Reza Pahlavi, he wrote to General Valiollah Fallahi, Chief Commander of the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic, offering to fight in the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force. His offer was rebuffed.[9]

[Cris M]

Originally Posted by Thumbahlina

His son passed away.

The Prince never had a son, he has three daughters. His brother, Prince Ali-Reza of Iran died in 2011.

[MAfan]

I believe that Thumbalina is mixing the late Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi with his son Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi.

[Blog Real]

There is support for the restoration of monarchy in Iran? there is some monarchical movement?

[Duc_et_Pair]

The chances are zero. The whole monarchy only was started by a humble servant to the Dutch Consul in Teheran whom, miraculously, after engaging into the Persian Army managed to succeed a coup d'état, to become a dictator and finally naming himself Shah.

From 1926 until 1980 there were two Shahs. So we may say that if there is any royal "dynasty" pretty poorly rooted in society and history, then it are the Pahlavis... When Jeb Bush will become President, there will have been more Bush Presidents than there where Pahlavi Shahs...

[Cory]

The Pahlavis are not forgotten in Persia.

[MAfan]

Well, this doesn't exactly mean that there are serious chances for a restoration, does it?

[Thumbahlina]

Originally Posted by Cris M

The Prince never had a son, he has three daughters. His brother, Prince Ali-Reza of Iran died in 2011.

Oh ok, said he had a son on wiki. That's the thing about wiki, it might not all be correct. Thanks for clarifying.

[Dman]

I do wonder if we would be seeing a different Iran if the Monarchy was restored? I'm thinking on how they feel about their country right now.

[Duc_et_Pair]

In 1979 the people of Iran voted, by referendum, for an end of the monarchy. The people most likely remembered the immense contrast between life in the major cities and the rest of the country. Between the Haves and the Have-Nots. The exorbitant, opulent and hedonistic lifestyle of the Shah and his wife (wives) did not help their imago either.

I fail to see why the people of Iran, with all this in mind, should vote for a restoration of the monarchy. By the way: there are no male heirs after the last Crown Prince, Ali Reza. So the line of succession depends on a nephew of the last Shah -Patrick Pahlavi- who was arrested and exiled by his own uncle and has no any link anymore with Iran.

The law of succession stated the Shah must profess the Islamic faith, his mother must be an Iranian citizen, a Muslim and not descended from the previous Qajar dynasty. Patrick himself is from a Roman-Catholic mother: Christiane Cholewski from France. He himself married a Christian lady, Sonia Laumann, whom coverted to Islamism. I think we can say that the short-lived Pahlavi dynasty will never return to old grandeur.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

In 1979 the people of Iran voted, by referendum, for an end of the monarchy. The people most likely remembered the immense contrast between life in the major cities and the rest of the country. Between the Haves and the Have-Nots. The exorbitant, opulent and hedonistic lifestyle of the Shah and his wife (wives) did not help their imago either.

I fail to see why the people of Iran, with all this in mind, should vote for a restoration of the monarchy. By the way: there are no male heirs after the last Crown Prince, Ali Reza. So the line of succession depends on a nephew of the last Shah -Patrick Pahlavi- who was arrested and exiled by his own uncle and has no any link anymore with Iran.

The law of succession stated the Shah must profess the Islamic faith, his mother must be an Iranian citizen, a Muslim and not descended from the previous Qajar dynasty. Patrick himself is from a Roman-Catholic mother: Christiane Cholewski from France. He himself married a Christian lady, Sonia Laumann, whom coverted to Islamism. I think we can say that the short-lived Pahlavi dynasty will never return to old grandeur.

I find nothing that resonates with my many Iranian friends in this post. Most of my friends parents wanted to get rid of the Shah in 78-79, and not one of them stand by that decision today.
In order for the monarchy to return, many things would have to happen, and as with everything else in the Middle East, it is hard to see the path right now. To dismiss it hovewer, without foundation, is to ignore 2500 years of monarchical history in Iran, and to underestimate the Iranian people and their ability to see what they had, what they have and what tomorrow should look like.
In 1978, the Iranians were tricked by a clever opposition, topped with their own desires for a better life.
If you could ask them freely today, if they were on a better course under the monarchy than the priest regime that followed, I wonder if the answers would surprise anyone.

Empress Farah said it best in the documentary 'the Queen and I': "Regimes come and go, but one would expect that life would be better, not worse, in a new one".

[Von Schlesian]

A question was asked earlier on this thread about why so much emphasis on the House of Pahlavi, rather than earlier dynasties. Surely the answer is just that the House of Pahlavi resonates because for many throughout the world (although conspicuously, not in Iran), the Shah's reign is in living memory.

As a traditionalist, I would prefer the return of an older dynasty should the dream of a restoration ever be realised. But that doesn't seem to be the will of those who remember the Shahs as innovators and reformers, who transformed Iran into a modern state. No one would argue that it was without it's faults, but for one monarchy to be overthrown by an autocracy veiled in theocratic or any other clothing, is a tragedy.

I too have had conversations with many Persian diaspora, most of whom fled during or shortly after the revolution. Their views are uniformly 'If only we still had the Shah, but sadly it seems almost impossible'.

On a related note, my Grandmother and her parents lived in Iran from 1934-1941. They were exiles from the National Socialist-ruled Germany and found their refuge in Iran. My Grandmother would speak of the beauty and freedom abundant in the country, the wisdom, kindness and hospitality of its people and the determination of Reza Shah to assure the independence of his people and those who sought safety within Iran's borders. She was exiled once again, thanks to the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran and was never to go back.