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Old 05-01-2011, 11:55 PM
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I'm no expert on Shi-ite terrorism, but assassination-by-car-accident doesn't seem a likely method by that type of assassination squad. It's more likely that they would put a bomb in the car or bomb a building or drive a car full of explosives into something. They'd go for something big and dramatic that would kill many more people.

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[FONT=Lucida Console][SIZE=3] I would suspect Iranian-Shi-ite muslim active terrorists would be concerned about Princess Diana promoting Dodi's popularity as a potential candidate. Dodi s a Sunnite muslim.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:11 PM
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The investigative journalist Tony Gosling who I work with told me that an MI6 agent (female) he speaks with has said that Dodi Al Fayed and his Father was considering running for presidential candidate in Egypt before he was killed
In which case the "investigative journalist" and/or the "MI6 agent (female)" were either talking through their hats or coming up with an idea for a comedy sketch.
The dissolute Dodi and the severely tarnished Mohammed Al Fayed on a joint ticket in the running for President of Egypt?
Oh please, where does this stuff come from.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:09 PM
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They were all using each other. Its not Diana's fault that he died. I do not know if she loved him since I'm not her, but it did seem that she cared about him enough to give him her father's cuff links.
Wasn't it claimed at the inquest that she had given other men her father's cuff links (or what she declared as that) before? Seemed to me back then the old Lord left quite some cuff links, but then my father had more than one pair, too and he wasn't definately an Earl...
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:15 PM
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I'm not sure, but what on earth would Diana be doing with many pairs of her father's cuff links?
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:51 PM
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I'm not sure, but what on earth would Diana be doing with many pairs of her father's cuff links?
Apparently the answer is giving them as gifts to many men ....lol. (maybe)
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I question the crediability of that. She has two sisters and a brother, for her to get all or a majority of the cufflinks and give them to male friends seems slightly odd.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:37 PM
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Who was Princess Diana's True Love??

Concerning the thousands of pieces of information out there about Diana and her "men", i always have been fascinated as to who really had her heart. I understand the general opinion is that it was Hasnat Khan but i never bought that, something about him always has rubbed me up the wrong way, dont ask me to explain it because i cant no rational or logical reason just pure feeling and instinct and maybe because i didnt see life as a disney movie, i find the complexity of life more interesting and his and Diana's story feels a little too perfect and easy for me, and how after all these years he still loves her, hasn't sold his story etc etc, im glad as long as diana was happy but the constant saccharine portrayal of him makes me sick and somehow puts all the other people who cared about diana and who she cared about somehow less than him and he was above. I once saw a picture of him with Paul Burrell grinning like a chesire cat and it made me shudder. I stress this isn't about who we thought was indeed right for Diana but who i feel she truly loved.

i personally always have and always will believe she was madly and truly loved Prince Charles until the moment she died. I think she shouldn't have been but i never could shake the feeling that she ever wanted to let go of him and hoped all the way till the end. Now maybe im completely wrong and Diana's friends have said no way she loved him (i admit i haven't done much research)I saw a video of them at a event of Williams at his school and the were amicable at that point, they say goodbye and her drives away and there is a moment where she's watching him drive away and i t was moving because she kept her gaze on him looking longingly at him and looked so vulnerable around him. Shame the whole thing was a disaster because it could've been something great but it was always meant to be like this...

I'm a newbie so don't jump on me all at once this is only my opinion
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:43 PM
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I'm not sure how she felt about Charles - I never saw any longing gazes at him or anything suggesting she was really, truly in love with him.
If Hasnat Khan wasn't her true love, then perhaps it was nobody. Some people really never have one.
I've never been a Diana fan, so I have never given this much thought. I think she wanted a soul mate, but never found one.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:48 PM
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I think she wanted a soul mate, but never found one.
To me, this is a very accurate statement.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:27 PM
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I share your feeling about Hasnat Khan. In his statement to the inquiry, he let it be known that they were having an affair but that he had no intention of marrying her--which seems a bit cold considering they had been seeing each other for a couple of years at least. It seemed like, early in their marriage, Charles looked at Diana more than he looked at her. If you look at their engagement interview and the interview just before their wedding, he was looking at her and referring to her and she wasn't reciprocating so often. I think that they likely had intense feelings for each other but just couldn't get along over the long term.

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and how after all these years he still loves her, hasn't sold his story etc etc, im glad as long as diana was happy but the constant saccharine portrayal of him makes me sick and somehow puts all the other people who cared about diana and who she cared about somehow less than him and he was above.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:28 AM
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Concerning the thousands of pieces of information out there about Diana and her "men", i always have been fascinated as to who really had her heart. I understand the general opinion is that it was Hasnat Khan but i never bought that, something about him always has rubbed me up the wrong way...

i personally always have and always will believe she was madly and truly loved Prince Charles until the moment she died. I think she shouldn't have been but i never could shake the feeling that she ever wanted to let go of him and hoped all the way till the end.
I totally agree about Hasnat Khan; I also find him self-absorbed and a bit creepy.
Moreover, it was Diana who ended their relationship, and she never let go unless she wanted someone out of her life.
(I don't think they were star-crossed lovers, I think Diana was tired of him; same as with Dodi Fayed).

As for Charles, I think Diana hoped very much that the marriage would be a genuine love match; when she discovered it wasn't, she turned on him. I'm not saying he was not at fault because he did allow her to think he cared for her, imo. But she turned vicious when she realized the truth, and I think she came to hate him as much as she'd loved him.

I don't think Diana ever had a love of her life; every man she knew tried to use her in some way. She was more of a trophy than anything.
She was a sad person in so many ways, and I often think that, if she hadn't been killed in the crash, she'd have ended up like her own mother.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:18 AM
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I totally agree about Hasnat Khan; I also find him self-absorbed and a bit creepy.
Moreover, it was Diana who ended their relationship, and she never let go unless she wanted someone out of her life.
(I don't think they were star-crossed lovers, I think Diana was tired of him; same as with Dodi Fayed).
I agree, I couldn't blame her for leaving Hasnat. He couldn't really handle the famous side to her. And the fact that he had no intention of marrying her is very cold.

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As for Charles, I think Diana hoped very much that the marriage would be a genuine love match; when she discovered it wasn't, she turned on him.
Not really surprising. IMO perhaps one of the appeals Charles had was that he would give her the family life or stable home she craved for since she was a child. Which is common for most children of divorces. Having a stable marriage and family life is what I want, its what Harry wants. He even said in the Katie Couric interview that he wanted children at a young age. And he is at such ease with children.

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I often think that, if she hadn't been killed in the crash, she'd have ended up like her own mother.
Possible, but I also believe if she took up counseling, learned to make her self happy and found a role for herself (which I believe she was doing) she would've been ok. Didn't she once jokingly say to a friend that she needed a marriage like she needed a rash lol?
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:29 PM
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:49 PM
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i personally always have and always will believe she was madly and truly loved Prince Charles until the moment she died. I think she shouldn't have been but i never could shake the feeling that she ever wanted to let go of him and hoped all the way till the end.
I doubt Diana ever was in love with Charles, the man (whoever he is behind the royal persona), but that she was in love with the image of the Prince of Wales in the beginning and thought he would be a father figure for her and take care of her.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:40 PM
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I never doubted Diana's love for Charles. I think despite all the movies, books, endless articles and news reports about their 16 year marriage, Diana & Charles really did love each other but they just couldn't make their marriage work.

To me, the proof of their love and respect for each other is William & Harry.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:47 PM
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I think eventually Diana would've went on to find love again. I'm not sure if it's any of the guys she was linked to outside of her marriage though. I truly think it would've happened for her.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:15 PM
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I never doubted Diana's love for Charles. I think despite all the movies, books, endless articles and news reports about their 16 year marriage, Diana & Charles really did love each other but they just couldn't make their marriage work.
I don't doubt that Diana was in love with the Prince of Wales, but I doubt the loved Charles, the man. Had he been a plain Mr Charles Mountbatten she would never have married him. As for Charles, he was probably in love with her youth, beauty and her admiration/love for the Prince of Wales, but I think that his present wife have always been the primary love of his life.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:50 AM
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Why would we want to 'cure' our daughter's Down's Syndrome when we love her just the way she is?:
Why would we want to 'cure' our daughter's Down's Syndrome when we love her just the way she is? | Mail Online

Rosa Monckton was a vey close friend of the late Princess of Wales and Diana was the Godmother of Rosa's daughter, Domenica Lawson.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:27 PM
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The world, which judges other peoples deepest hearts and souls, by the look on their faces in pics and the clothes they wear, decided much before that Charles and Diana should marry..and so they were 'made to believe' that they are right for each other..
Diana thought she will get the love, status, fame, stable family, everything..(hardly anyone gets everything in life..)..But she never had 'proper' parents to counsel her.
Charles thought she knows well what she is going into and she can handle all that well..( He asked her..You know you are going to be the Queen and how much it will be..she told herself..). When she sheepishly said yes, he thought she is ready for all that. And he too had parents who are themselves confused, and an aged 'ostrich' granny, who does nothing but smiles and waves, who never thought it her job to put her doubts about the girl and family she knew since ages.
Meanwhile the press decided thats it..and it happend.
And the world saw it as an embodiment of eternal love..ha ha
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:47 PM
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It is not at all to make a mockery of their wedding. but I wanna say that it was too over-rated as a 'love' thing. But I believe they didnt have a good understanding of each others' needs, priorities and mentalities, they just walked in like a typical 'arranged marriage' in India, where the guy and girl are made to sit in a room for 10-15 min to talk and they are asked if they like each other.
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