Harry and Meghan: Tour of Southern Africa - September 23-October 2, 2019

[Dman]

Harry usually talk to Rhiannon Mills. He wouldn’t be rude to her, so she must’ve said something or acted in a way that displeased him. Harry wouldn’t just act out in the way the media is making it seem. He’s not Princess Anne and Prince Philip.

[HighGoalHighDreams]

Ista, I think the only thing you are "missing" is likely that the reporters were probably not supposed to ask questions while Harry was getting in the car. I'm sure Harry was irritated that this request was not honored.

I'm ok with Rhiannon doing this for one reason. Often in situations like this, men will not obey the directive and therefore will get further or exclusive information, while women will follow the directive and therefore "lose out." One example is press conferences where reporters are told "one more question!" After the one more question is asked, men tend to continue to shout out more questions, which then tend to get answered, while women tend to obey the directive and miss a chance to have their questions answered.

I will be frank. I do not believe Harry would have turned around and told a male photographer how to behave like he was scolding a small child. I don't believe he would have because he has faced this situation a hundred times and never done so. I hope if I am wrong, someone will point it out

Better to ignore the question and keep moving forward.

I am now prepared to hear how I am excusing women's poor behavior.

[Charlie1224]

Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams

Ista, I think the only thing you are "missing" is likely that the reporters were probably not supposed to ask questions while Harry was getting in the car. I'm sure Harry was irritated that this request was not honored.

I'm ok with Rhiannon doing this for one reason. Often in situations like this, men will not obey the directive and therefore will get further or exclusive information, while women will follow the directive and therefore "lose out." One example is press conferences where reporters are told "one more question!" After the one more question is asked, men tend to continue to shout out more questions, which then tend to get answered, while women tend to obey the directive and miss a chance to have their questions answered.

I will be frank. I do not believe Harry would have turned around and told a male photographer how to behave like he was scolding a small child. I don't believe he would have because he has faced this situation a hundred times and never done so. I hope if I am wrong, someone will point it out

Better to ignore the question and keep moving forward.

I am now prepared to hear how I am excusing women's poor behavior.

This might be something that's easily missed, but having watched Prince Harry's interactions, I've noticed he does this regardless of gender. He has stepped in before when photographers got too aggressive. I've seen him give a stern look and then tell them to back off. It happened in Morocco. What Rhiannon Mills did wasn't just shouting a question at him (which, fair enough, I don't think is a big deal). The issue is that she actually got past people in the designated media area and chased to his car. Media chasing the royals to their car is always a big no no, especially with security.

I'm quite surprised by this. They don't just shout questions at them as they are leaving. The pool usually has someone for arrival and departure and then someone for the event, and they share footage.

[HighGoalHighDreams]

Originally Posted by Charlie1224

This might be something that's easily missed, but having watched Prince Harry's interactions, I've noticed he does this regardless of gender. He has stepped in before when photographers got too aggressive. I've seen him give a stern look and then tell them to back off. It happened in Morocco. What Rhiannon Mills did wasn't just shouting a question at him (which, fair enough, I don't think is a big deal). The issue is that she actually got past people in the designated media area and chased to his car. Media chasing the royals to their car is always a big no no, especially with security.

I'm quite surprised by this. They don't just shout questions at them as they are leaving. The pool usually has someone for arrival and departure and then someone for the event, and they share footage.

Thank you, Charlie. I don't usually watch video and am glad to know I was mistaken.

[Fijiro]

Originally Posted by victor1319

!Hello online has more on it:
"Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have filmed a documentary in Africa - and Archie will feature"

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalt...a-documentary/

"ITV News presenter Tom Bradby confirmed the forthcoming programme, as he tweeted that he'd "just finished filming a documentary on Harry and Meghan in Africa." The presenter is no stranger to the royal family, having previously filmed a documentary with Prince Harry in Africa in 2016, and he also interviewed a nervous Prince William and Kate Middleton after their engagement in November 2010." (ibid.)

I look forward to watching this documentary on Harry and Meghan Southern African Tour.
It was an amazing tour, and I learned a lot about the countries visited.

I wonder when the documentary will be complete, and if it will air in the U.S.A. or maybe it'll be in on YouTube afterwards.

[Ista]

Originally Posted by Charlie1224

This might be something that's easily missed, but having watched Prince Harry's interactions, I've noticed he does this regardless of gender. He has stepped in before when photographers got too aggressive. I've seen him give a stern look and then tell them to back off. It happened in Morocco. What Rhiannon Mills did wasn't just shouting a question at him (which, fair enough, I don't think is a big deal). The issue is that she actually got past people in the designated media area and chased to his car. Media chasing the royals to their car is always a big no no, especially with security.

I'm quite surprised by this. They don't just shout questions at them as they are leaving. The pool usually has someone for arrival and departure and then someone for the event, and they share footage.

Thank you for providing context. I knew there had to be something more than the interaction on the video.

[Zaira]

Originally Posted by Ista

Thank you for providing context. I knew there had to be something more than the interaction on the video.

Yeah I was very curious about his reaction at first too but that context makes sense. At first he laughed her off and was congenial, but when she persisted, he got a bit annoyed.

He also had just given Rihannon an interview as well, so its weird that she would go after him with more questions.

[MaiaMia_53]

Yes, I came here to share the same tweet, in which Bradby says the documentary he filmed of M&H in South Africa will "explain a lot." I'm not sure if Bradby is referring to a lot about their work and projects in South Africa, or about the couple in general and what's been going on since their marriage: https://twitter.com/tombradby/status...86777667366912

It's interesting that people think Harry is so against the media, when in fact, journalist Tom Bradby is a close friend of Harry's who has remained a very close friend. So Harry in fact is often friendly with journalists who are fair and responsible. Bradby and his wife, Claudia Hill-Norton (a jewelry designer), were invited guests at M&H's wedding. I recently learned that during ITV's lead-in coverage of the royal wedding, Bradby was interviewed and he spoke very revealingly about M&H's relationship around the time their dating became public knowledge.

Bradby said that Meghan has had a calming effect on Harry. He said that Meghan was much calmer than Harry around the time of the revelation of their relationship. Harry was anxious about ensuring Meghan would feel prepared for and protected against what was increasingly becoming a media trial-by-fire. Harry was particularly concerned since he'd previously lost girlfriends who did not want to deal with the OTT public attention:
https://youtu.be/fKPL2P_Yi4s?t=2046 direct link to start of the interview with Bradby and his wife at 34:08+ (Bradby's remarks begin at around 36:24)

Even Meghan's dog walker was chased by paparazzi...

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by Charlie1224

This might be something that's easily missed, but having watched Prince Harry's interactions, I've noticed he does this regardless of gender. He has stepped in before when photographers got too aggressive. I've seen him give a stern look and then tell them to back off. It happened in Morocco. What Rhiannon Mills did wasn't just shouting a question at him (which, fair enough, I don't think is a big deal). The issue is that she actually got past people in the designated media area and chased to his car. Media chasing the royals to their car is always a big no no, especially with security.

I'm quite surprised by this. They don't just shout questions at them as they are leaving. The pool usually has someone for arrival and departure and then someone for the event, and they share footage.

Excellent summation of what logically might have happened. If I remember right, the press pack is given the itinerary for tours and there's times to ask questions and there are times to not ask questions.

Taking Harry's words at face value is that he knew Ms. Mills well enough that he could notice that her question was out of line and addressed her by name. I also have to think that by the almost end of an exhausting tour and knowing what was about to hit (his statement), its easy to be a bit short tempered and be aggravated easily.

As stated, Harry has given Ms. Mills an interview and is familiar with her so I don't think something like this is the end of the world for either of them. It was Harry being very human at the time.

BTW: Welcome to TRF, Charlie!

[sophie25]

Originally Posted by Dman

Harry usually talk to Rhiannon Mills. He wouldn’t be rude to her, so she must’ve said something or acted in a way that displeased him. Harry wouldn’t just act out in the way the media is making it seem. He’s not Princess Anne and Prince Philip.

At the end of the day the reporters are doing THEM a favour in bothering to record their activities on tours (all the royals). I've always wondered what royal tours achieve anyway other than to give the royal family good PR and make them look relevent. It's OK to say that it gives the reporters a job but these people are professional journalists and would get a job somewhere else anyway. The royals should realise that they need the media more than it needs them and if Harry and Meghan find it so awful they are free to give it all up tomorrow. They would be forgotten about by the media and the public at large within a week.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by sophie25

At the end of the day the reporters are doing THEM a favour in bothering to record their activities on tours (all the royals). I've always wondered what royal tours achieve anyway other than to give the royal family good PR and make them look relevent. It's OK to say that it gives the reporters a job but these people are professional journalists and would get a job somewhere else anyway. The royals should realise that they need the media more than it needs them and if Harry and Meghan find it so awful they are free to give it all up tomorrow. They would be forgotten about by the media and the public at large within a week.

First off, I'd say that using the term "professional journalists" is a oxymoron in many cases.

The tours such as this recent one to SA by Harry and Meghan was a working tour and hence, focused on areas the issues that need calling attention to. Yes, its true that there should be a good working relationship between the royals and the journalists that are covering the tour as they're both working for the same purpose and that is bringing attention to areas where its sorely needed. They, rightly so, should be working hand in hand professionally but as we've seen, it doesn't always happen that way.

[BaiSoSo]

Originally Posted by sophie25

At the end of the day the reporters are doing THEM a favour in bothering to record their activities on tours (all the royals). I've always wondered what royal tours achieve anyway other than to give the royal family good PR and make them look relevent. It's OK to say that it gives the reporters a job but these people are professional journalists and would get a job somewhere else anyway. The royals should realise that they need the media more than it needs them and if Harry and Meghan find it so awful they are free to give it all up tomorrow. They would be forgotten about by the media and the public at large within a week.

Royal Reporters (British Media) aren't needed quite as much as they have been in the past, especially today with so many social media options to get their message out and the fact that the RR (BM) haven't exactly been professional/trust worthy and have more or less turned into gossip mungers. Meghan has had several successful projects with limited assistance from this group of people and in one case they tried to sabotage it.

Harry and Meghan's successful tours have nothing to do with the BM but rather because 1. They (H/M) come prepared and engage with people in a caring manner and represent the UK/Queen in a positive light. 2. There is a global interest in this couple so there is going to be coverage from other news outlets that then to be more objective.

I will also say that RR (BM) can also do damage to the UK reputation, especially when it claims that it is representing the British Public.

[Fijiro]

Harry and Meghan's tour of Southern Africa is wonderful. I've been watching tapes from the tour over and over. It's a good thing that there are tapes.
And now I'm looking forward to Watching the Documentary by Tom Bradby whenever that comes out.

[ACO]

I had a feeling Bradby was doing a documentary. During the very first engagement of thr tour we saw Harry and Meghan go in a corner and give a joint interview to who looked like Bradby before they continued on. And there were little moments throughout where it seemed like that was happening with them.

I doubt we see much of Archie despite what Hello! says.

[MaiaMia_53]

Hmmm, maybe that's another reason why M&H also gave interviews to a few other selected reporters, so that them talking to Bradby wouldn't stand out as unusual or exclusive.

All the time during the tour, apparently the media thought M&H giving them interviews meant they had softened up or given in, or something. We were probably always going to strategically see Archie on this tour (as the visit with Desmond Tutu was likely preplanned). I'm fine with seeing Archie whenever M&H wish to share him with us. And they might be more forthcoming if some quarters of the media were less clamoring and beyond the bounds.

Originally Posted by Fijiro

Harry and Meghan's tour of Southern Africa is wonderful. I've been watching tapes from the tour over and over. It's a good thing that there are tapes.
And now I'm looking forward to Watching the Documentary by Tom Bradby whenever that comes out.

Yes, it will be nice to find out when and where the documentary will be released.

I was noticing some still photos taken on Oct 2, the final day of the tour, and I can't help but be struck by the deep connection between these two. Now, this is LOVE:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...dl3rrgxevf.jpg

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...70180655.jpg?c

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b1b9a...ormat&fit=max&

The third photo above won't link properly, so here is the photo in the original source, linked here only for the photo:
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/...mpression=true

[Gawin]

Opinion piece by Ryland Fisher, chief executive of Ikusasa Lethu Media:

"The Duchess of Sussex brings a breath of fresh air to British royal family"

https://www.iol.co.za/weekend-argus/...amily-34181089

[Fijiro]

Originally Posted by Gawin

Opinion piece by Ryland Fisher, chief executive of Ikusasa Lethu Media:

"The Duchess of Sussex brings a breath of fresh air to British royal family"

https://www.iol.co.za/weekend-argus/...amily-34181089

A very good read; Thanks for sharing the link.

[Madame Verseau]

Lovely story about Meghan and I hope it shows the Sussexes that the British media is not what defines them.

[Princess Larisa]

Originally Posted by Princess Larisa

Court Circular 30th September:
Buckingham Palace

The Duke of Sussex this morning visited a memorial cairn and laid a wreath, Liwonde National Park, Malawi.

His Royal Highness, President, African Parks, afterwards received a briefing on counter-poaching operations at Liwonde National Park Headquarters.

The Duke of Sussex, President, African Parks, this afternoon viewed a counter-poaching demonstration by African Parks Rangers and 2nd Battalion Royal Gurkha Rifles at Liwonde National Park.

His Royal Highness later unveiled The Queen’s Commonwealth Canopy, Liwonde National Park and Mangochi Forest Reserve.

Court Circular 30th September:
Buckingham Palace
The Duchess of Sussex this afternoon visited Victoria Yards, 16 Viljoen Street, Lorentzville, Johannesburg, South Africa.

[JessRulz]

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