Harry and Meghan: Relationship Musings

[Rudolph]

Things are changing but Britain is still class obsessed (especially the tabloids) Meghan and her family will have to get used to it as will the people in America who support her.

Harry no doubt is preparing Meghan on what is to come.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

That settles it. I am going to stick to praising Meghan's beauty and glamour and adorable doggies, guessing about how they spent their time on holiday, observing how happy Harry looks, speculating about which tiaras she will be permitted by HM to wear and offering my giddy opinions on possible venues for the wedding if I come here at all.

It's the safe thing to do. I won't be a party the the "harassment" of Harry's lady love or her family.

Not me, no way!

So a Spring or early Summer Wedding?


LaRae

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Pranter

So a Spring or early Summer Wedding?


LaRae

I vote for the late spring

[Pranter]

Hmmm so it probably won't be April (W&K married in April) ...so I vote May.



LaRae

[Blog Real]

Will the engagement announcement be this year?

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Pranter

Hmmm so it probably won't be April (W&K married in April) ...so I vote May.



LaRae

Me too! My wedding anniversary is in May, so I'm partial. But it is a lovely month for a wedding and IF they announce an engagement after Suits is finished filming, that gives enough time to plan it.

[Pranter]

The announcement will be tricky ...might be after the first of the year.

Sept is the Invictus Games...then it's already been announced W&K&H all have an increased schedule including trips out of the country starting Sept/Oct. Then the Queens big wedding anniversary is in November....so...they don't want to overshadow that.

They could do December...but might be Jan. Either way if they announce I look for a short engagement.

My wedding anniversary is in May too!


LaRae

[Dman]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

Will the engagement announcement be this year?

We have no clue! Everybody have to wait for the couple and Kensington Palace to make that announcement.

[RoyalHighness 2002]

I think we should also consider an engagement of Jack and Eugenie. If they announce an engagement, I don't think Harry would want to overshadow that. In my opinion, I think he would wait until after Eugenie's wedding to announce anything.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by RoyalHighness 2002

I think we should also consider an engagement of Jack and Eugenie. If they announce an engagement, I don't think Harry would want to overshadow that. In my opinion, I think he would wait until after Eugenie's wedding to announce anything.

Wouldn't the other way around be more likely? Harry and Meghan are probably more in a hurry (because of age), so maybe Jack and Eugenie are happy to wait a little longer. So far, they haven't been in a rush.. And if they would announce their engagement after Harry and Meghan (which would be smart if they want to reduce media attention), Jack could even join his fiancée at the wedding before having their own a little while later...

[LauraS3514]

Originally Posted by RoyalHighness 2002

I think we should also consider an engagement of Jack and Eugenie. If they announce an engagement, I don't think Harry would want to overshadow that. In my opinion, I think he would wait until after Eugenie's wedding to announce anything.

Zara and Mike announced their engagement just two months after William and Catherine so I'm not sure either Harry or Eugenie will take their cousin's announcement into account.

[DeeT]

Every month there can be some type of important event or someone's birthday or anniversary or holiday, one would hope that life doesn't have to stand still for anyone just because of it.

[sndral]

Originally Posted by LauraS3514

Zara and Mike announced their engagement just two months after William and Catherine so I'm not sure either Harry or Eugenie will take their cousin's announcement into account.

Eugenie doesn't seem that interested in the limelight & if she announced just after Harry (as Zara did just after William) she'd avoid a lot of attention as it would naturally be directed at her cousin, so if Eugenie and Jack are planning on marriage I wouldn't be surprised if they announced near in time to Harry, assuming, of course, that Harry and Meghan are as serious as we suspect.

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

Why do some Brits think Americans "froth at the mouth" about Royalty, much less Harry and Meghan??!

I can assure anyone who believes this that you are wildly off the mark. Only the handful of Americans on online Royal boards even know or care who Harry dates.

We comprise only a very, very tiny fraction of the population I assure you!

Originally Posted by Pranter

MAYBE .01 percent of the population...and that might be over estimated! LOL

In my circle of friends/family in real life...I am the only person who cares anything about any royal families. 1 or 2 of them actually even know the names of the major figures ..and they won't even know all the main members of BRF royal family.

On my online groups (not on FB) I know of 1 other American who knows....on FB a few more but they are Europeans.

True. And anyway @Pranter, wasn't your first reference to not having yet seen anyone "foaming at the mouth," in direct response to my comment regarding people taking exception to Meghan's background in some quarters? And I responded by saying there are plenty of 'crazies foaming at the mouth' on Internet sites and on the comment sections of tabloid made-up & rehashed reports about H&M's romance.

The 'crazies foaming at the mouth' are not specific to any one country in the world, by the way. There are plenty of people with goodwill toward H&M all over the world, just as there are a percentage of 'crazies' many of whom are just jealous, all over the world. Antiquated views and/or jealousy toward Harry & Meghan being happy together can not be attributed to any specific national or ethnic group! There are all kinds of people with all kinds of different characters, upbringings and perceptions based on ignorance and/or prejudice. Just as there are likely overwhelmingly many many people of wonderful character who would hold goodwill toward any young couple in love regardless of the couple's backgrounds or status in life.

[wyevale]

has certainly offered the royal family a chance to heal on many levels

How MARVELLOUS that a 'universal panacea' has presented herself in this way !

Do you not think that 'loading expectations' on anyone might be a bad idea, given the demands made upon the late Princess of Wales, by an enraptured and 'starry eyed' public ?

[Rudolph]

Meghan Markle has a long way to go for Britons to be 'enraptured' with her

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by wyevale

How MARVELLOUS that a 'universal panacea' has presented herself in this way !

Do you not think that 'loading expectations' on anyone might be a bad idea, given the demands made upon the late Princess of Wales, by an enraptured and 'starry eyed' public ?

It's not about Meghan herself, but about the emotions that are being raised by her dating Prince Harry. And it's about the larger issues generated by her background, which once again she is not precipitating nor generating in anyway herself. She is simply being herself and privately sharing in a low profile relationship with a high profile member of the British royal family.

Your perceiving what I said in a negative, prejudicial manner nets you misunderstanding and misinterpretation.

There are a number of variant emotions operating on a number of levels regarding H&M's relationship among the current fairly small percentage of royal followers, royal journalists and gossipmongers who are reacting to and commenting on it. I just think it might be helpful for us all to individually reflect upon our emotions and motivations and maybe stop over-projecting or mindlessly arguing without learning anything. I know that I am learning some things about myself and about cultural attitudes, and as well new things about the royals that I didn't know before that have enhanced my understanding of royal life. I don't specifically attribute all that I have learned directly to Ms. Markle, but I do think she's a positive role model.

Also, I'm not putting expectations about 'universal healing' directly on Meghan personally. The 'Diana-like hounding' and harassment by the press will in no way be tolerated by Prince Harry or the royal family. And frankly, I do not expect H&M to become more open with their private relationship, even should they marry. If they do marry, they will surely (not unlike Will & Kate) do everything they can to continue conducting a low-profile private life while engaging in public duties dutifully in as low-key a way as possible. And I expect H&M to devote a lot of positive energy and effort to their humanitarian projects, as well.

[Ronnsha]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Meghan Markle has a long way to go for Britons to be 'enraptured' with her

Well, I don't think that any of this matters to Harry. He just wants to be happy. Marrying for love, not convenience, is what he has always wanted. Harry is well aware of the excruciating pain, a loveless marriage brought to his late mother. I wish him well.

[Pranter]

Yeah I don't think I'd be basing relationship decisions on whether or not Britons are 'enraptured' with my girlfriend/boyfriend....Harry is the one that has to live with and build a life with that other person, not the public or the courtiers.


LaRae

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by Pranter

Yeah I don't think I'd be basing relationship decisions on whether or not Britons are 'enraptured' with my girlfriend/boyfriend....Harry is the one that has to live with and build a life with that other person, not the public or the courtiers.

Yep, what has 'enraptured Britons' got to do wid it? Got to do wid it!?

There's no accounting for misinterpretations and exaggerations, as well as deflections and projections.

Harry's personal relationship, as he already said is about 'his life and hers.' He cares about other people, but that's beside-the-point in who he chooses to date and to marry.

I was only referencing people's attitudes generally/ culturally, and I was also referencing the royals in the sense that merely by happenstance and serendipity, a young prince who has fallen in love won't have to be dissuaded or prevented from marrying the person he loves due to antiquated notions, prejudice, or disapproval by anyone, certainly not by opiners on an Internet forum.