View Poll Results: Guess the sex of Harry and Meghan's first baby!
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10-17-2018, 08:58 AM
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Imperial Majesty
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Originally Posted by Biri
But he is closer in age to Zara than to Eugenie; Zara is even the same age as Meghan.
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It's not just about age. Harry has often been seen socializing with his York cousins. Eugenie set him up with Cressida. He has vacationed with the yorks. It is said he and Meghan double dated with Eugenie when they first started dating. Far more evidence that he is close to the yorks then he is to Anne's kids.
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10-17-2018, 09:29 AM
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I don't understand either what Pope Francis has to do with Sussex baby.
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10-17-2018, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Biri
But he is closer in age to Zara than to Eugenie; Zara is even the same age as Meghan.
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Harry didn't know that he would marry a few years older than him when he spend time with his York cousins and moved in the same circles. There is a reason that his former 2 girlfriends attended Eugenie's wedding...
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10-17-2018, 09:37 AM
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What's the Pope being called Francis got to do with anything?
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I suspect it's because of the Catholic and Anglican implications? Although, I still don't see why a baby can't be named Frances/Francis if the Pope is Francis.
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10-17-2018, 09:42 AM
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Disdain towards Catholics has ended in England long time ago; we have XXI century now, not XVI.
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10-17-2018, 10:38 AM
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 Most definitely, Biri. We just saw recently a touching note that HH, Pope Francis said a blessing for HM, The Queen and her people as he flew over the UK on his way to visit in Ireland.
If the couple have the desire to use the name Frances/Francis, they most certainly would.
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10-17-2018, 11:02 AM
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Diana/her mother and even some of her ancestors use Francis/Frances ...no reason Harry couldn't. The pope has nothing to do with any of it. I seriously doubt anyone in the U.K. is going to say hey...wait a minute what's up with Francis/Frances ..they named the baby after the pope..they are secret papists!!!
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10-17-2018, 11:11 AM
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Come to think of it, if they used Frances, it would definitely fit into the Harry and Meghan relationship and be a family name.
Frances Ellen Work would be the child's great, great, great grandmother and according to Wikipedia, "Frances Ellen Work was an American heiress and socialite. She was a great-grandmother of Diana, Princess of Wales, and her great-great-grandchildren include the Duke of Cambridge, the Duke of Sussex, and the American actor Oliver Platt."
BTW: You can see Oliver Platt weekly on the popular TV show "Chicago Med" which is one of my favorites. He plays Dr. Daniel Charles.
I definitely see Frances in the running if this child is a girl.
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10-17-2018, 11:23 AM
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I would love to see Frances/Francis used...I've been wanting that to be used since George was born! lol
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10-17-2018, 11:26 AM
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10-17-2018, 11:33 AM
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OOh... I can just see a little girl with the personality of her daddy being called "Frankie". Especially if she has her daddy's ginger hair.
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10-17-2018, 01:03 PM
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Not a fan of using such a distinct name. Let the kid be itīs own person. I think Kate and William did it perfectly with Charlotte. Honouring the two most influental women in their lives with the middle names and let Charlotte be Charlotte.
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10-17-2018, 01:54 PM
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I can see any of these names being used....
Girl: Loyce, Jeannette, Frances, Mary, Alice, Julia
Boy: Albert, David, Phillip, Henry, Frederick
Personally I love the names Alice, Marguerite and Amelia for a girl, Phillip, Henry or David for a boy. The godparents that I am sure of are Mark Dyer, Jessica Mulroney, and Princess Eugenie, Mrs Brooksbank. I also feel that a Van Cutsem may be in the running with Prince Seeiso.
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10-17-2018, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Empress Merel
Not a fan of using such a distinct name. Let the kid be itīs own person. I think Kate and William did it perfectly with Charlotte. Honouring the two most influental women in their lives with the middle names and let Charlotte be Charlotte.
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I agree and again, I am would never place a bet on gender or name or godparents, but I would on them choosing a 'clean slate' name with no direct reiteration of the big names as first names (no Diana, Doria, Elizabeth, Charles, Thomas or even Philip).
Since the Cambridges already used Diana I could see the Sussexes using Francis for a boy as a middle name(as I mentioned about) but it won't be first, imo.
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10-17-2018, 03:55 PM
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I can see Frances or Francis being used; though more as a middle name rather than a first name. IIRC Frances was also Diana's middle name so it could also be a more indirect way of honouring Diana without using her first name itself.
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10-17-2018, 07:52 PM
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For a boy Francis would also honor Prince Francis of Teck, who was the father of Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth II's grandmother.
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10-17-2018, 08:51 PM
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I, believe, if it is a girl, Diana will be part of the name. Harry is very devoted to the memory of his Mother.
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10-17-2018, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by COUNTESS
I, believe, if it is a girl, Diana will be part of the name. Harry is very devoted to the memory of his Mother.
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You can be devoted to the memory of your mother without naming a daughter fir her. Francis woukd be a way to honor her without reusing Diana.
Only name I am sure on for a girl middle name is Doria. I don't see them using loyce. I think they will honor both moms in a first daughter in some way.
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10-17-2018, 10:16 PM
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Newest name idea: Isabelle Doria Diana, with Isabelle being a variant of Elizabeth in honor of the Queen, followed by both the names of both grandmothers. Plus Isabelle gives plenty of nickname potential (Izzy, Belle, etc...)
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10-18-2018, 03:07 AM
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 I think Isabelle is definitely pretty. That's a great choice for a girl's name. I like it as Isabella.
I'm guessing maybe a girl for the first child. But we shall see.
Name suggestion:
Sophia Doria Frances
(first name in honor of Queen Sophia Charlotte, the wife of King George III, who is said to have had African ancestry on her Portuguese mother's side)
Other names: Ophelia, Olivia, Margaret, Helen, Victoria, Rachel, Chloe, and Jeanette (Meghan's grandmother's name).
So maybe: Victoria Jeanette Diana
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