Royal Family of Romania, News & Events Part 2 (Jan 2018 - Current)

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

The Church in Savarsin is beautiful.

Yes it is the Icons and wall fresco's are wonderful and the church looks to be very well maintained.

[eya]

Today Friday, 7 September Princess Maria was on a public visit to Arges County, Curtea de Arges and Topoloveni.

Principesa Maria, vizită la Curtea de Argeș și Topoloveni | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

On Wednesday, 12 September , Princess Maria began a public visit to the Germany. The visit takes place in the Land of North Rhine-Westphalia and in the capital of the country, Berlin.

https://www.romaniaregala.ro/jurnal/...a-in-germania/



Update with more pictures from the visit of Princess Maria in Germany

Principesa Maria a încheiat vizita în Republica Federală Germania | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

On Wednesday, 19 September Princess Maria visited Ploiesti the Bakery School of the Concordia Humanitarian Organization, wich is her Patronage

Principesa Maria la Brutăria Concordia | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

On Friday, 21 September Her Majesty Margareta, Prince Radu and Princess Maria received Dr. Anneli Ute Gabanyi at the Elisabeta Palace, a member of the Royal Council.

Agenda la Palatul Elisabeta, 21 septembrie 2018 | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

Princess Maria represented Her Majesty Margareta at a new conference titled Good Practices for a Beautiful Old Age, a project of the Princess Margareta Foundation of Romania.
The event took place at the National Theater in Bucharest on the morning of Monday, 1 October

Bune practici pentru o bătrânețe frumoasă | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

[Duc_et_Pair]

Princess Maria, the youngest sister of Princess Margareta, is quite active. Possibly the most active member of the Royal House, besides her eldest sister and Radu.

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Princess Maria, the youngest sister of Princess Margareta, is quite active. Possibly the most active member of the Royal House, besides her eldest sister and Radu.

That´s not hard. All the other sisters virtually do not do any royal engagements...

[maria-olivia]

A poster of Noblesse et Royautés wrote the Venue of the Queen of Roumania was in the local newspaper on page 18. On this same page they were pictures of a 'choucroute" party with an attendence of 1600 persons.

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Princess Maria, the youngest sister of Princess Margareta, is quite active. Possibly the most active member of the Royal House, besides her eldest sister and Radu.

Of course Maria works for the Royal House, she lives in Romania. At Maria's biography it is told that Margareta asked Maria to move permanently to Romania in fall 2014. And in January 2015 Maria moved to Bucharest. Of course Margareta's plan was, that Maria would work actively for the royal house, when she asked her to move to Romania.
ASR Principesa Maria

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Of course Maria works for the Royal House, she lives in Romania. At Maria's biography it is told that Margareta asked Maria to move permanently to Romania in fall 2014. And in January 2015 Maria moved to Bucharest. Of course Margareta's plan was, that Maria would work actively for the royal house, when she asked her to move to Romania.
ASR Principesa Maria

I understand that, and very nice and loyal from Princess Maria indeed. But one would expect Princess Elena and Princess Sophia having a more prominent role.

It is the equivalent of an invisible Charles, Anne and Andrew with Edward as the most active member, after the Queen.

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

I understand that, and very nice and loyal from Princess Maria indeed. But one would expect Princess Elena and Princess Sophia having a more prominent role.

It is the equivalent of an invisible Charles, Anne and Andrew with Edward as the most active member, after the Queen.

I think this is not comparable. All these british Princes and Anne do have very active roles and do a lot of engagements while "housewifes" (sorry, nothing against housewifes! But this is what comes always first into my mind reading about them) Èlena and Sophia do not. Perhaps if this royal house would be reinstalled and there was more to do, they probably would...?! But, do we really miss seeing E. and S. ...?!

[Biri]

Video of Princess Elena talking about her son; what is she saying here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N41oeKVxcaw

[Duc_et_Pair]

This is no recent film but from last year.


Princess Elena was disappointed and worried about the facts concerning her son Nicholas. According the Princess, through his actions of the past days, Nicholas had despised her father's intimacy and dignity.

"We have told Nicholas that the King did not want to see him because of his lack of decent behaviour and lack of moral principles. Even when the King received the news of Nicholas' marriage on August 4th 2017, he was deeply saddened that Nicholas did nothing to clarify his alleged paternity of a child, a little girl of almost two years old. This shows a lack of responsibility.

During the most recent visit to Aubonne, in the month of August, my father had personally confirmed his decision to anullify Nicholas, which was already known to my son. King Michael had issued, in several writings, his motivations to remove the royal title and the position in the Royal House of Romania."

Nicholas' acts of the past days were profoundly wrong, immoral and inhuman. My son has shown contempt towards Romania, towards the people and towards his position as a Prince of the House of Romania. For me, his mother, this aspect is devastating."

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

This is no recent film but from last year.


Princess Elena was disappointed and worried about the facts concerning her son Nicholas. According the Princess, through his actions of the past days, Nicholas had despised her father's intimacy and dignity.

"We have told Nicholas that the King did not want to see him because of his lack of decent behaviour and lack of moral principles. Even when the King received the news of Nicholas' marriage on August 4th 2017, he was deeply saddened that Nicholas did nothing to clarify his alleged paternity of a child, a little girl of almost two years old. This shows a lack of responsibility.

During the most recent visit to Aubonne, in the month of August, my father had personally confirmed his decision to anullify Nicholas, which was already known to my son. King Michael had issued, in several writings, his motivations to remove the royal title and the position in the Royal House of Romania."

Nicholas' acts of the past days were profoundly wrong, immoral and inhuman. My son has shown contempt towards Romania, towards the people and towards his position as a Prince of the House of Romania. For me, his mother, this aspect is devastating."

She was, at least in parts of this statement, obviously lying....!

What "acts" are being meant here? Did he kill or rape someone? Did he put poison in his grandfather´s dish? Did he try to throw a nuclear bomb on Romania from an aeroplane...?!
Come on, these so called "statements" are nothing but a farce
And I cannot stand people styling themself victims and sinking into selfpity: "Oh, that naughty boy, my heart breaks, how could he? sniff, sniff....!"
This is soooo hypocritical it stinks to heaven! Is this how a mother is behaving? If the Queen of the UK would have reacted to her children´s (and, yes, also Harry´s) antics back in the 1990s, she would not just exlude them out of the Windsor dynasty, but also having them being locked up in the Tower (let alone it would have been under her dignity to issue such a public statement about a family member, no matter how cross she would have been about a person)!

My mother would have told me very clear, what her opinion is about what I would have done wrong and that she was not happy about it. But, of course, she would never had let me down or even exclude me from the family for these kind of reasons, no matter how serious they were. I mean, come on, what´s wrong with these people?! I can only assume she´s under some kind of very bad influence!
Anyway, I´m sure not many of us here would have experienced they same like N did with his mum...


Well, this royal family hasn´t done anything good to themself by their actions. Although there is a majority of 70% for the monarchy, the government has not agreed to a referendum, although there were in the first place plans to think over it. Well, I can somewhat understand these politicians. Could you trust a family so dysfunctional in itself it cannot even solve its own problems, let alone representing a whole country...?!

[Biri]

What is the relationship between Princess Elena and her daughter?

[andrew]

Originally Posted by wartenberg7

She was, at least in parts of this statement, obviously lying....!

What "acts" are being meant here? Did he kill or rape someone? Did he put poison in his grandfather´s dish? Did he try to throw a nuclear bomb on Romania from an aeroplane...?!
Come on, these so called "statements" are nothing but a farce
And I cannot stand people styling themself victims and sinking into selfpity: "Oh, that naughty boy, my heart breaks, how could he? sniff, sniff....!"
This is soooo hypocritical it stinks to heaven! Is this how a mother is behaving? If the Queen of the UK would have reacted to her children´s (and, yes, also Harry´s) antics back in the 1990s, she would not just exlude them out of the Windsor dynasty, but also having them being locked up in the Tower (let alone it would have been under her dignity to issue such a public statement about a family member, no matter how cross she would have been about a person)!

My mother would have told me very clear, what her opinion is about what I would have done wrong and that she was not happy


Well, this royal family hasn´t done anything good to themself by their actions. Although there is a majority of 70% for the monarchy, the government has not agreed to a referendum, although there were in the first place plans to think over it. Well, I can somewhat understand these politicians. Could you trust a family so dysfunctional in itself it cannot even solve its own problems, let alone representing a whole country...?!

As a Romanian citizen I have to agree with you. In the last 2 years the Romanian Royal Family has 'successfuly' sabotaged themselves in a spectacular manner. If in 2017 there was a real chance to restore the monarchy now even I-a monarchist-have serious doubts about the future of the monarchy in Romania.
I cannot blame king Michael for this. I think Margareta made a huge mistake when she didn't realize that for the sake of the future of the monarchy they should have resolved their problems in the family IN THE FAMILY not in public. She should have given some time to Prince Nicholas to manage his personal problems-if they were real-and present a unified family in front of the public. They should have talked a LOT MORE in private and try to figure out a solution for their problem before going public with it.
I don't think Prince Nicholas is a perfect man but I'm sure that with the guidence of his aunt, mother and close friends he could have emerged successfuly from any problem that he might have had.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by andrew

As a Romanian citizen I have to agree with you. In the last 2 years the Romanian Royal Family has 'successfuly' sabotaged themselves in a spectacular manner. If in 2017 there was a real chance to restore the monarchy now even I-a monarchist-have serious doubts about the future of the monarchy in Romania.
I cannot blame king Michael for this. I think Margareta made a huge mistake when she didn't realize that for the sake of the future of the monarchy they should have resolved their problems in the family IN THE FAMILY not in public. She should have given some time to Prince Nicholas to manage his personal problems-if they were real-and present a unified family in front of the public. [....]

But it was not Princess Margareta "making a huge mistake". It was in the first place Nicholas himself, then his mother Princess Elena, and then King Michael.

The one who brought it all public was Nicholas when he enforced himself into his grandfather's property, with shouting and physical abuse. This caused an official complaint and became a matter for the Swiss police and public prosecution, with that exposing it to the wide audience.

You say that Nicholas should have been given time, but from the words of his mother Princess Elena I understood he indeed HAD time: when his grandfather King Michael heard about his marriage in August 2017, he was deeply saddened that Nicholas still had not clarified his responsibility, for being an alleged father to an almost two years old (!) daughter.

It was then that King Michael took his hard decision, which was apparently announced to Nicholas on beforehand and confirmed in Aubonne, in the presence of his mother Princess Elena. Note also that Princess Margareta never uttered any word. She kept it, as you wished, indoors. It was Nicholas' himself and his own mother, publicly agreeing with the decision of the King as the You Tube clip showed.

His aunt Princess Margareta, THE one whom invested most in Nicholas as a promise for the future of the Royal House, probably feels the most betrayed. But not she, but the King was in charge, as confirmed by Nicholas' very own mother.

[andrew]

The king's last public appearance was in november 2014. So IMO everything that was declared in his name after that can be put under a question mark.
I meant that the whole exclusion from the succesion and the royal family should have been discussed beforehand in the family with the participation of Nicholas.
They should have made a common statement in case they didn't manage to reach an agreement. The written statement from King Michael was unilateral and very foggy, it came as a shock to the Romanian public.
Don't get me wrong I don't want to idealize Nicholas, I have never met him in person. I have met King Michael, Queen Anne, Princess Margareta and Prince Radu several times. Once I had the honour of spending an hour and chatting with the whole family in their living room in Savarsin castle. I expected more maturity from them. Nicholas is 4 years younger than myself so I can understand if his actions may not be always very mature or very well understood.
In my first post I didn't want to mention Prince Radu because there is a whole conspiracy theory around him-with his past in the Securitate and other more recent events but I might say now that it is possible that Radu is behind all the recent turbulances in the Royal family.
In my eyes he has lost his credibility when he ran for Presidency some years ago.
The thing is that right now I'm mad and frustrated because the Royal Family has set back the cause of monarchy with 20 years. The monarchists are divided between Margareta and Nicholas so the only loosers are we, who had hoped for a monarchical future for Romania.

[Biri]

Originally Posted by andrew

In my first post I didn't want to mention Prince Radu because there is a whole conspiracy theory around him-with his past in the Securitate and other more recent events but I might say now that it is possible that Radu is behind all the recent turbulances in the Royal family.
In my eyes he has lost his credibility when he ran for Presidency some years ago.

Do you suggest that Radu married Margareta only for interest???

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Biri

Do you suggest that Radu married Margareta only for interest???

This has been suggested by some who knew the royal family in exile - before the revolution of 1989.

Of course, with all things, one should take this with a grain of salt.

However, if one searches the Romanian press, it is not impossible to come across reports that Radu Duda was part of a plan by the Romanian political apparatus to infiltrate the royal family.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by andrew

I don't think Prince Nicholas is a perfect man but I'm sure that with the guidence of his aunt, mother and close friends he could have emerged successfuly from any problem that he might have had.

Unfortunately, it appears that his uncle by marriage exerts an overwhelming influence on Princess Margareta, which has ultimately worked to the detriment of the Romanian royal family as a whole.

[eya]

On the occasion of the National Day of Germany, Princess Maria was present at the "German Unity Day" at the invitation of Mr. Cord Meier-Klodt, ambassador of the Germany to Bucharest. The event took place at the Radisson Blu Hotel on Tuesday 2 October


Principesa Maria la Ziua Unității Germane | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

At the invitation of the Concordia humanitarian organization, Princess Maria was present at the annual charity concert. The event was at its fourth edition and took place at the Odeon Theater in Bucharest on Thursday, 4 October.

Concertul anual caritabil Concordia 2018 | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

Princess Sofia recently visited with his daughter Elisabeta-Maria, Harghita County and the St. Ana's Lake.
In memory of her mother, Queen Ana, Princess Sofia made an album with art photos, representing both this corner in Romania and her own artistic vision


Lacul Sfânta Ana, în viziunea Principesei Sofia | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

Princess Maria participated in the celebration of the National Day of Spain on the evening of Friday, 12 October.

Principesa Maria, la Ziua Națională a Spaniei | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Biri

What is the relationship between Princess Elena and her daughter?

We´ll have to wait and see if she gets ousted, too, after she had dared to attend her own brother´s wedding....