The Danish Orders and Monograms - Page 8

robby86 · #**141** 01-29-2011, 03:40 PM

Thanks guys. That was my thinking too. I just couldn't find a place where is says it.

crisscross1 · #**142** 04-26-2011, 11:50 PM

I was looking at the website of the Danish Royals and noticed that only certain members of the family have monograms. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks,

missMaryanne · #**143** 04-26-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crisscross1

I was looking at the website of the Danish Royals and noticed that only certain members of the family have monograms. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks,

maybe it's because of their position in the sucession line... but i think it's quite rare that the only one of the heir's kids that has a monogram is christian...

Sternchen · #**144** 04-27-2011, 07:51 AM

No that's not rare in the DRF

Joachim only received his monogram when he turned 18, while Fred received his before his 18th Birthday

Josefine · #**145** 04-27-2011, 08:09 AM

so christian got his very early?

Sternchen · #**146** 04-27-2011, 08:11 AM

Yes, I think even before his first birthday, or in connection with his first birthday.

crisscross1 · #**147** 04-27-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternchen

No that's not rare in the DRF

Joachim only received his monogram when he turned 18, while Fred received his before his 18th Birthday

So Isabella, Vincent, Josephine, Felix and Henrik will have monograms but not until they are older??? I guess they wouldn't have much use for one until they are adults where as the heir to the throne might have more official duties in the lead up to his 18th.

Grandduchess24 · #**148** 02-16-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crisscross1

So Isabella, Vincent, Josephine, Felix and Henrik will have monograms but not until they are older??? I guess they wouldn't have much use for one until they are adults where as the heir to the throne might have more official duties in the lead up to his 18th.

Then why does prince Christian already have one.

Did Mary and Frederik receive their joint monogram after being married or was it created after a certain amount of time?

Lumutqueen · #**149** 02-16-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

Then why does prince Christian already have one.

Because he's the heir to the throne. I believe for F&M's monogram it was released before the wedding, but only used after.

**Stefan** · #**150** 02-16-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Because he's the heir to the throne. I believe for F&M's monogram it was released before the wedding, but only used after.

It was used for decorations at the Wedding. In Fredensborg there was a big torch on the street leading to the Castle and the they went with the carriage through it and on this torch was the mongram.

NGalitzine · #**151** 02-16-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

Then why does prince Christian already have one.

Maybe QMII was bored one day, doodling at her desk and created what she thought was the perfect monogram and decided to make it official.

Muhler · #**152** 04-21-2012, 03:59 AM

An interesting article from BT about the Order of the Elephant: Nu vil Margrethe have Mærsks Elefantorden tilbage - Danmark | www.bt.dk

The late Mærks McKinney Møller was one of the extremely few ordinary Danes who recieved that order. (No wonder, according to one article his entire empire amounted to about one fith of the Danish GNP. Not sure if it's true but is sounds plausible).

Anyway, upon the death of a recipient of one of the orders, like the Order of the Elephant, it must be returned to Ordenskapitlet = the Chapter of the Orders. Which administrate the various orders. The chairman is Prince Joachim. QMII is as Monarch Ordensherre = Lord of the Order.

Now, Mærsk McKinney Møller is to be buried today and there are no particular rules in regards to the order adorning his casket. The Order can be placed on the casket or displayed next to, or not shown at all.

In a few days it will be expected that the Order of the Elephant will be returned. If that does not happen within say a couple of months or so, a reminder will be send out.
Should the order not be returned or should it have become lost or been stolen, the recipient will be expected to reimburse the order. The amount varies according to the age of the order, but it will typically be around 100.000 DKK = 17.770 $, or 13.442 €.
Equvalent to the cost of making a new order from Georg Jensen.
That also applies to lesser orders.

There are around 100 Orders of the Elephants, some are in storage, others are in for repairs.
The elephant is of massive gold adorned with white enamel and diamonds.
The star to the order is made from sliver with a cross made from pearls.

An ordinary Knights Cross has a value of 1.700 DKK and a Knights Cross of the First Degree has a value of 15.000 DKK.
Here is the converter I used: http://www.xe.com/

Sternchen · #**153** 04-21-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Maybe QMII was bored one day, doodling at her desk and created what she thought was the perfect monogram and decided to make it official.

Hehe :) Fred received his also quiet early, while Joachim received his for his 18th Birthday :)

FasterB · #**154** 06-11-2012, 07:38 PM

Here are some photos I took Saturday at Frederiksborg Castlechurch. The one where Prince Joachim got married the first time :)

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3&l=1c5a5a28f9

polyesco · #**155** 06-11-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FasterB

Here are some photos I took Saturday at Frederiksborg Castlechurch. The one where Prince Joachim got married the first time :)

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3&l=1c5a5a28f9

wow. just lovely. thank you for sharing

Muhler · #**156** 08-08-2014, 09:36 AM

Summary of a Q&A in Billed Bladet #32, 2014.

Where a Paul Nönnecke asks: I've seen an Order of the Elephant put up for sale at Lauritz.com and I'm deeply puzzled. I thought this grand order should be returned to the DRF upon the death of the owner. Am I wrong?

Jon Bloch Skipper responds that the order itself (the elephant and the star) must be returned, but the chain in which the order hangs can be sold.
However, it it extremely rare that it happens and that's why it got such an attention.
The chain has belonged to Princess Caroline Mathilde and it was sold for (the impressive) sum of 225.000 DKK.
Lauritz.com has not wished to disclose who the owner of the chain was, but it is very much assumed that it was either the heirs of Christian of Rosenborg, Count Ingolf of Rosenborg or Princess Elisabeth.