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Old 01-02-2011, 10:35 AM
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I noticed when I was watching the arrivals on tv, that Joachim was swinging his right arm 45 degrees in moore than one occasion.

A coincidence?

Sone one who is much hung on formalities will appriciate this I'm sure. :)
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:32 AM
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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a distinction in English for the Danish words: Kur and Hof.
This is a New Year "kur", which means: to court someone, in this case the DRF. - That's where you are recieved by the DRF and greet them.
Now, the word "hof" can have two meanings, depending on how it's used. Usually you translate the word "hof" to court. I.e. the royal household, complete with LiW's and what not.
However, "holde hof" is also translated to court, but that meaning is very different. To "holde hof" is when the monarch precides over his/her court. I don't even believe that is done anymore. Not since Absolutism was abolished in 1848.
Do you get my meaning? - We are talking about very old expressions here.
There is the expression "to hold court" in English meaning jour fixes where the king surrounded himself with his courtiers and advisors while the queen sat with her ladies. On these occasions young people could be introduced to the king and queen by sponsors who already had the ear of the monarch and his spouse.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:41 AM
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Yes thank.But at last the queen and Prince then drive around the Place. They could also drive along the Colonnade which would be even shorter.
Well, they could, but that would be against the way to drive. Even at Amalienborg Square one have to drive in the right side of the road as you do in Denmark
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:14 PM
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Prince Henrik left his zipper open...
How embarrassing!!
Oh well, he mooned at us last summer, so this is nothing.
I think it was more likely that the zipper opened on its own. That's after all preferable to the trousers "opening" elsewhere, right?

Without Prince Henrik the photographers wouldn't have as many great photos and we wouldn't be entertained as much.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:32 PM
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Thank you for the information Muhler. I know very little about the Danish court so I found your post very interesting.
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:47 PM
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Prince Henrik left his zipper open...
How embarrassing!!
http://www.hola.com/imagenes//realez...n-reyes--z.jpg

http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_danesa/2011010250541/recepcion/nuevo/dinamarca/1/
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:10 PM
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The flyer is open.

Oh dear.

I have just been reading an interview book about the prince consort Henrik by Stephanie Surrugue.

It is a very good book.

Oddly enough it states that a french magazine pointed out at the engagement with QMII, that Henry Montpezat wasn't a nobleman, but it turned out to be a mistake.

But it is contradicting a previous book where he is telling that he is not a nobleman.

Some secondcousin 100 years ago forgot to deliver a paper and lost the right to be a nobleman. But if the paper had been delivered his family wouldn't have been member of the nobility anyway. It was another branch of the family.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:18 PM
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henri being noble, well, its at least a bit shady. he certainly wasnt "A class noble", rather "being made" noble because his family was somehow in the grey area noble - not noble.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:04 PM
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I feel pity with the prince consort Henrik.

In some way he is too concerned with titels.

Besides his grey area nobility, he also wanted to change his titel from prince to prince consort some years ago.

It is difficult for me to understand.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:59 PM
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I wonder if Mary was watching the event from TV?
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:42 PM
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Sorry, but Frederik looks abysmal
Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think it is going to help Fred to deny that he turns up to occasions looking drunk or even stoned. His eyes are red here - and if that's the result of too much drinking, rather than getting stoned - that doesn't make it OK. It's an abuse of a privileged position not to take it seriously enough to NOT overindulge ahead of an event like this. Remember, this is Frederik AT WORK. If you or I turned up at work looking like this, there would be hell to pay.

It should be not just noticed, but discussed. I think Mary has in many ways been a real saviour for Fred - but if he's still looking trashed at an event six years into his marriage and with two more kids on the way, there's something seriously wrong with his attitude. I say: grow up and face reality, Crown Prince Frederik!
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:35 AM
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How do you know the reason for his look?
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:54 AM
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i would'n infer anything about anybody's look depending just on pics, which fix eternally the expression a person had for just one second.
all the more so as judging somebody's appearence is often a matter of personal taste.
i, for one, have found him smiling a lot. my guess was he had spent a very good new year's night. he seemed to me happily tired, if you get what i mean. but i am very conscious it is only a guess and that i absolutely do not know how things went in reality.
as for mary being a saviour under many respect, i am inclned to believe it, bc both frederick and the queen have hinted at this.
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Old 01-03-2011, 05:14 AM
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Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think it is going to help Fred to deny that he turns up to occasions looking drunk or even stoned. His eyes are red here - and if that's the result of too much drinking, rather than getting stoned - that doesn't make it OK. It's an abuse of a privileged position not to take it seriously enough to NOT overindulge ahead of an event like this. Remember, this is Frederik AT WORK. If you or I turned up at work looking like this, there would be hell to pay.

It should be not just noticed, but discussed. I think Mary has in many ways been a real saviour for Fred - but if he's still looking trashed at an event six years into his marriage and with two more kids on the way, there's something seriously wrong with his attitude. I say: grow up and face reality, Crown Prince Frederik!
He could be having a cold or some other illness. The flu is rife in Denmark at the moment. Would you chastise him for putting in an effort too? He could have sneezed a couple of times (from a cold or otherwise) - my eyes waters when that happens. As someone pointed out, there's plenty of bright lights, which can make your eyes water. There are many reasons why a person can have red or sore eyes - smoking pot or heavy drinking aren't the only two.
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Old 01-03-2011, 05:42 AM
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i would'n infer anything about anybody's look depending just on pics, which fix eternally the expression a person had for just one second.
I agree, and I never base a judgement on a single picture. But there are about 20 pictures of Fred at that event and he does not look sober. His eyes are red - not tiredness red - and the expression on his face isn't just happy, it's "merry". Fred is a very seasoned drinker - and I honestly think it doesn't help to make excuses for him. He is also thin. Of course this is conjecture, but no-one who is straight and sober looks like that!
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i understand what you are saying and also - if I can add that - i appreciate that you are saying it out of concern and not out of spite or just for trashing him. i guess that this is the way to discuss things.

just two things:
one, as said before, the anti-monarchic media or the scandal tabloid would surely point out such an issue, if only to sell more copies?; i mean, not even a headline about new year's binge, when in the past they tried to sell the story of a supposed betrayal on frederik's part based on a picture of him on a yatch with another woman next to him just leaving out of the picture all the other guests?
second: drunhard people tend to develop a body which is the opposite of frederik's - which is, not thin at all, especially in the belly, no matter how many abds you work out in the gym. on the contrary, he was able to close that uniform full of bottons from the chest down without it stretching anywhere. so i wouldn't know.
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Old 01-03-2011, 06:49 AM
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i understand what you are saying and also - if I can add that - i appreciate that you are saying it out of concern and not out of spite or just for trashing him. i guess that this is the way to discuss things.
Absolutely out of concern! Thanks for not misunderstanding, Eliz. I remember Prince Charles' friend once saying that no-one ever criticised him. People of royal privilege generally aren't criticised by their immediate circle. Frederik comes from a culture where hard drinking has always been tolerated - historically. He is a sailor. They drink hard. He has access to a lot of money - and temptations. He has a history of being a sensitive and thoughtful person and has suffered depression. I believe he is actually vulnerable to alcohol, and if that's the case I hope his nearest and dearest are able to intervene. Unfortunately, families often 1. feel powerless (yes, even royals) 2. don't know what to do or 3. often go into denial. There is no reason to think that a royal family would necessarily act on a "difficult circumstance" - more so than the average family. The average family is often accidentally an "enabler" ...
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:15 AM
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Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think it is going to help Fred to deny that he turns up to occasions looking drunk or even stoned. His eyes are red here - and if that's the result of too much drinking, rather than getting stoned - that doesn't make it OK. It's an abuse of a privileged position not to take it seriously enough to NOT overindulge ahead of an event like this. Remember, this is Frederik AT WORK. If you or I turned up at work looking like this, there would be hell to pay.
I agree, unless Fred has a severe case of conjunctivitis, his eyes were really bloodshot. It's true a picture captures only a second of time, but that's regarding emotions and expressions portrayed in the picture, ie Charles and Di's balcony kiss, in a picture it looks so passionate, esp the way di leans over, in reality it lasted a split second
you either have bloodshot eyes or you don't!
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:10 AM
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I agree, unless Fred has a severe case of conjunctivitis, his eyes were really bloodshot. It's true a picture captures only a second of time, but that's regarding emotions and expressions portrayed in the picture, ie Charles and Di's balcony kiss, in a picture it looks so passionate, esp the way di leans over, in reality it lasted a split second
you either have bloodshot eyes or you don't!
I can assure you that the danish press would be all over him if there was any indication as his brother Joachim

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Old 01-03-2011, 08:28 AM
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hahaha, this is a very funny picture. Thank you Duke.
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