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Old 02-27-2023, 06:50 AM
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The Egeland estate has been sold, Count Ingolf and Countess Sussie of Rosenborg have announced.

"It was sold in January, but is only available to the buyer on 1 April. So there is still plenty of time. But we only need a little clean-up" explained Countess Sussie, "We are happy and satisfied to have sold our property to a really nice family. And we are looking forward to having them as neighbours":


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Old 02-27-2023, 08:57 AM
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I wonder why the sold it,part of downsizing?
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Old 02-28-2023, 07:50 AM
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I wonder why the sold it,part of downsizing?
Health reasons as explained in previous posts. Muhler posted this article: https://www.bt.dk/navne/grev-ingolf-...-bliver-svaert

Also, as speculated in previous posts several items are now at auction.
https://norway.postsen.com/world/938...om-silver.html
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:24 AM
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The article is interesting albeit IMO mistaken.

Prince Knud and as such Count Ingolf were hardly cheated, their line was instead voted out by democratic vote.
We can of course discuss whether that is fair, but it's actually more consistent with Danish royal practice than automatically inheriting the throne, which has "only" been the rule for less than 350 years. For the remaining 650++ years of the Danish monarchy the kings were elected by vote.

In reality that vote (or rather political support/pledge) was decided way before it actually took place. In fact I don't know of historical instances where someone voted against (or more correctly spoke) against the new king. If you were against the new king, you either ducked and covered, went into exile, rebelled or assassinated the king.

So what happened before Absolutism was introduced in 1660 was that a new king gathered enough support to ensure he could be crowned. Then he toured the realm (which he did for the rest of his life BTW, there was no capital until well into the 1400s) meeting up with assemblies of local freemen, local nobility, yeomanry and burghers who met and pledged their allegiance to their new king. I.e. voted for him so to speak. In a similar manner as these very same assemblies voted when handling all sorts of local administrative matters.
Denmark didn't really become feudal until well into the 1300s and not for real until after the Feud of the Count in the 1530s, which was also the last public rebellion in DK by ordinary people. Prior to that people would and did take up arms at the drop of a hat.
And these pretty democratic assemblies were basically abolished in 1660 when the king took over all power in the land. But before Absolutism was introduced in DK, a Parliamentary system like in England was very much considered.
Because royals all over Europe were well aware of what went on in other kingdoms and the pro and cons of having a parliament against a king with absolute power was very much debated and considered. After all royals were usually educated to the limit of their intellect and interests and many if not most were just as idealist, in their way, as royals are today.
For example: Henry VIII was very well educated and informed, he was also very much an idealist. That he ended up becoming a tyrant is an interesting but hardly unique story.

But back to Denmark. If the new king already had a son, he made sure that son was acknowledged as the legal heir by these same assemblies. Otherwise he would soon after his first son was born, travel the realm to make sure his newborn was presented to and acknowledged as the heir by the local assemblies.

- So what happened in 1953 was the modern, democratic, equivalent of the high lords of DK and especially the local assemblies rejecting Prince Knud's firstborn son as the heir (and as such also Prince Knud himself) in favor of the eldest daughter of King Frederik IX.
So Danes in 1253 might have found the process in 1953 peculiar and interesting, but they would not have found it sensational or even particular novel.

BTW: These assemblies were called Stænderforsamlinger = assemblies of representatives of various strata of the society: Nobility, peasantry (who owned their land, that is) clergy and burghers. - Naturally that did not include women, servants, peasant who did not own land, young people and poor. That goes without saying. The mere thought is laughable.
But the previous name is perhaps more familiar to you: Ting.
That word is still in use today more than a thousand years later, in say the name of the Danish Parliament: Folketinget = The People's Assembly.

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The new home of Count Ingolf is more than 400 square meters, with the upper floor not being used by him, so I don't think lack of room is that big a concern. IMO it's more a question of there not being immediate heirs so why not sell things? And perhaps the DRF will buy some of it, so it remains in the family?

And finally while Ingolf has lived a pretty comfortable life I would not call it a life of luxury. I don't think such a life would really appeal to him to be honest. I think he was for the most part pretty content with the life he got. And his dynasty would end with him anyway...
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Old 03-06-2023, 10:06 AM
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https://www.bt.dk/royale/live-grev-i...de-paa-auktion

You can right now, follow a live coverage from a Bruun & Rasmussen auction where Count Ingolf will sell a number of personal items.
The auction is starting as this is posted and it will last some five hours - ending at 21.00 DK time.

39 objects will be sold.
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I wonder why the couple decided to sell off their former farm (and personal items) rather than bequeathing them to family members as most noble families still seem to do.
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Old 03-06-2023, 11:56 AM
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I wonder why the couple decided to sell off their former farm (and personal items) rather than bequeathing them to family members as most noble families still seem to do.
Egeland is not a family estate and it's anyway most likely that none of the Count's nieces would have wanted to take over. They all live normal middle-class lives in the Copenhagen area.
Regarding personal items we have no idea how the Count and Countess plan to divide their estate when the time comes, but from what we know the three sisters have sold a large part of what they inherited from their aunt, parents and grandparents. Much of what was left from their grandparents' estate after the most valuable objects had been sold at auction was sold by the sisters themselves at a garage sale.
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Old 03-06-2023, 12:04 PM
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The auction will start again in a few minutes, and so will the live coverage.
Three items have so far been sold.

- I might place a bid for a snow-shovel, if there is one up for auction. A nasty little blizzard is going to hit us in about two hours.
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Old 03-06-2023, 12:47 PM
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Auctions can be fun, currently watching several paintings going under the hammer.

No snow shovels yet, Muhler

https://bruun-rasmussen.dk/m/news/ro...f-912-20230223
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Old 03-06-2023, 01:12 PM
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Alas.

The auctioneer, Alexa Bruun Rasmussen, 48, is the daughter of Jesper Bruun Rasmussen, who after 68 years retired today. So is his daughter.
The family business has been sold, so she will focus on charity.
A very presentable lady, eh? - Married and mother to a son.
She is to the end of this auction, the only female auctioneer in DK.
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Old 03-07-2023, 01:43 AM
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That explains the ginormous floral bouquets, hugs and kisses and a toast with wine glasses. The daughter Alexa did have an amazing presence. Once again Muhler, thanks for that extra bit of info.
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Old 03-07-2023, 05:04 AM
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The Tapestry of Valdemar II of Denmark has caught my eye
https://bruun-rasmussen.dk/m/lots/ADBE6DEAFDEA
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Old 03-07-2023, 10:06 AM
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The Tapestry of Valdemar II of Denmark has caught my eye

https://bruun-rasmussen.dk/m/lots/ADBE6DEAFDEA
By Agnes Slott-Møller. Konsulinde Holm would be happy to see that being sold.

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