He was not, mentally, stable.
they married because they wanted to, esp for the girls it was the only way they ahd of having some status and independence.. even if sometimes being a wife was more restricting than being a spinster daughter.Well who cares about the fall of a dynasty as long as your in loooove. :rollseyes:
Regarding Victoria I find it hard to take any objection she had to any of her children's marriages seriously; some of those kids probably just married to get away.
Definitely Felipe II Habsburg should have listened to the Pope and not marry his own niece.
And now we have Sofia Helqvist...welcome my Princess of the tattoos and piercings and the nude pix. Ick.
Were Prince Carl Philips's parents against his marriage to Sofia? I don't follows this royal family like I do the British Royal Family.
I thought Queen Victoria approved of Princess Louise's marriage to the Marquess of Lorne and that it was Bertie, the future Edward VII, who disapproved. Victoria's response (IIRC) was to rightfully predict times were changing and that a marriage to a subject would be deemed than marriage to a foreign royal.
Were Prince Carl Philips's parents against his marriage to Sofia? I don't follows this royal family like I do the British Royal Family.
True but it is possible that they ddn't feel they could refuse consent.. Carl Philip is not the heir, and while his bride was controversial its very unlikely that she would ever be queen. Probalby if they had refused consent, he would have married her anyway and put himself out of the succession?
I thought Queen Victoria approved of Princess Louise's marriage to the Marquess of Lorne and that it was Bertie, the future Edward VII, who disapproved. Victoria's response (IIRC) was to rightfully predict times were changing and that a marriage to a subject would be deemed than marriage to a foreign royal.
I think the real sticking point of the SRF was Victoria and Daniel. The had to wait so very long to marry that I wondered if the King thought they's grow apart and solve the problem,Nothing public was ever said if they were...and they appear to get along with her.
LaRaeWere Prince Carl Philips's parents against his marriage to Sofia? I don't follows this royal family like I do the British Royal Family.
Nothing public was ever said if they were...and they appear to get along with her.
LaRaeI think the real sticking point of the SRF was Victoria and Daniel. The had to wait so very long to marry that I wondered if the King thought they's grow apart and solve the problem,
Victoria grew up spending a lot of time with Prince Frederik and Prince Haarkon and I kind of think he hoped there would be a match there and Carl Philip would again become heir. But, the heart wants what the heart wants and all three found terrific life partners even if they weren't royal or aristocratic.
Did Victoria have a serious boyfriend before Daniel? I can't remember, didn't follow them prior to her meeting him.
Interesting that none of them have married into another royal/noble family...seems to be a trend in most of the European (and Scandinavian?) Royals.
LaRae
I think the real sticking point of the SRF was Victoria and Daniel. The had to wait so very long to marry that I wondered if the King thought they's grow apart and solve the problem,
Victoria grew up spending a lot of time with Prince Frederik and Prince Haarkon and I kind of think he hoped there would be a match there and Carl Philip would again become heir. But, the heart wants what the heart wants and all three found terrific life partners even if they weren't royal or aristocratic.
Did Victoria have a serious boyfriend before Daniel? I can't remember, didn't follow them prior to her meeting him.
Interesting that none of them have married into another royal/noble family...seems to be a trend in most of the European (and Scandinavian?) Royals.
LaRae
Victoria dated another Daniel, Daniel Collert prior. Collert and Victoria knew each other for years. He moved to New York when she was in the states for school and their relationship was confirmed in 2000. They broke up in 2001.
As for the idea that the king wanted her to marry Fred or Haakon so CP could be king.... Daniel entered the picture in 2002. Haakon had been married to MM for a year and Fred had been in a serious relationship with Mary for two years. Mary had moved to Denmark by this time to become more serious. There is little reason to think CG could have any delusion his daughter would marry one of them and his son would be heir again.
Marriages, at least among reigning houses, has been uncommon for some time. The reality is the rules softening allowing them to marry for love, has shut the door on what was practically arranged marriages. Though some royal families do socialize like the Scandis, they now tend to choose to marry for love. Considering Haakon and Victoria's fathers both married commoners themselves, something which would have lost them their throne in previous years, set a firm example for their kids. Margrethe was little different, in choosing a French diplomat though he did have some aristocratic roots.
The wedding between two royals/aristos are more common among the former houses now a days. For many reasons. Some being that they move in the same social circles. Go to the same schools and such. For them its like marrying in your own social circle which is quite common.
However, it seems that the king would not wish that upon Carl Philip - as he has stated before that he (at least at that time) thought that CP was the rightful heir, so removing him completely from the line of succession would probably be too drastic.
Why would the King think that Carl Philip is the rightful heir? I know this is changing subjects, but I just have to ask.
Has anybody ever thought about the royals who married against their parents wishes and it turned out their parents were quite right. The 2 who always come to mind is Nicholas II of Russia and the Emperor who insisted on marrying Sissi.