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12-04-2007, 03:03 PM
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I can´t agree with you that the princess is now thinner than ever.
Here´s a photo taken 31.1.2005:
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This was taken 1.8.2006
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This was taken yesterday:
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I don´t think that the princess is now thinner than in 2005 or 2006.
I also think that the princess looks now healthy and happy, although she is very slender. I appreciate very much the great work the princes of Asturias do and I don´t care if the princess is a little thinner than some other princess.
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12-04-2007, 03:23 PM
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Regarding the skirt, I don't know what to say. Yes it's a pretty skirt (by Caprile) but yesterday it was being recycled for the fourth time. On the last occasions it has always been this mix and match with old skirts and new or altered or recylcled tops and not for the better but for the worse. I don't get the unability to provide a proper gala dress for Letizia. One phone call to Caprile would be enough and ask him to design a couple of nice gala dresses which can be recycled during the next 30 years as Princess or as Queen.
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You sounded so easy. Who is paying ?  It's the end of year, maybe she is running out of the clothes budget. I doubt the top is from Caprile, the sleeves looks very Varela, likely she got it with a cheap price.
The white top is OK, too old fashioned, suits an older woman better. It reminds me of one of Sonja's white dress.
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12-04-2007, 03:25 PM
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This is a very nice photo:
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I love the joy at Letizia´s face
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12-04-2007, 03:35 PM
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On the topic of the decoration and the sash, it is not anything that the Princess could control. The decoration is Philipine, and the normal thing is that they were delivering it the same day in the lunch.
The Spanish decoration that the Princess takes is always the Order of Carlos III that has the sash blue and white, if the decoration is different is that it is from the country visitor.
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12-04-2007, 03:56 PM
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I stand on my former opinion: Letizia needs to fire Varela, most of her clothing makes her look like she is Zarzuela Employee of the Month who won the opportunity to have a day with the Royal Family
Caprile, Schlesser or del Pozo would be top choices for her, I'm not saying she has to spend Spain's whole GDP on it, but a little investment would be nice
And I think she has ups and downs with her weight: she looks very pretty at her pregnancies and thin the rest of the time, specially at the lactancy time, it doesn't mean she has an eating disorder but also doesn't mean she looks nice; she simply would look better with 5 more kg or so, I would say the same if someone would need to lose 5kg
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12-04-2007, 04:57 PM
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Leti looks great but skinny that's right.
I don't know why but I thought that I'll see her in Mellerio tiara with other gown. Her gala/evening outfit was great but... maybe the top like this which she wore when they announced that she is expecting (with Leo  )
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12-04-2007, 05:46 PM
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There is criticism of the size of the Filipino president's entourage in the Philipines and the official felt the need to defend it by saying King Juan Carlos paid for part of the expense. I'm skeptical JC would pay for a presidnet's entourage. Here is an Australian article:
Arroyo allies win trip to Spain | The Australian
The entourage does seem unusually large with all the families tagging along.
Now back to the usual weight and fashion comments...
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12-04-2007, 08:06 PM
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Julio Iglesias' ex looks beautiful. It seems that she never ages. What a beautiful and classy lady. Letizia on the other hand--no comment!
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12-05-2007, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by highpriestess
There is criticism of the size of the Filipino president's entourage in the Philipines and the official felt the need to defend it by saying King Juan Carlos paid for part of the expense. I'm skeptical JC would pay for a presidnet's entourage. Here is an Australian article:
Arroyo allies win trip to Spain | The Australian
The entourage does seem unusually large with all the families tagging along.
Now back to the usual weight and fashion comments... 
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I am actually embarrassed by this visit, and by the nerve of our officials. they claim they paid for their own tickets, etc. and now, they incredulously claim that it was King Juan Carlos who paid part of the expense. who are they kidding?! besides, why would the King bother with them?
please people, don't believe any single word from our government officials (and because we Filipinos don't believe in them either  ).
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Just how short is the phillipines president?
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she's around 4'11. the last time someone checked, she could qualify for Guiness world record as shortest president.
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IICR, isn't Isabel Preysler from the Phillippines? I must say she is so elegant!!
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yes, she is. The Preyslers are among the founders of one of the biggest companies in the country.
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12-05-2007, 04:36 AM
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But it's possible that the Spanish government (not the King) paid part of the expense since it's a state visit.
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12-05-2007, 04:38 AM
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Julio Iglesias' ex looks beautiful. It seems that she never ages. What a beautiful and classy lady.
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She did look fabulous. Ummm someone should ask her for the names of the plastic surgents instead of going to Brazil every year.
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12-05-2007, 04:55 AM
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She did look fabulous. Ummm someone should ask her for the names of the plastic surgents instead of going to Brazil every year.
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Fabulous, but already a bit ridiculous. Always she has been an elegant woman, and a great woman of society ... but sometimes I think that she is turning into a cartoon of herself for much that certain type of press praises her. She has more than 50 years, is a grandmother, and looks like more the sister of her daughters than their mother. A thing is to want to age with dignity, and other one to seem that you have the whole life 20 years.
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12-05-2007, 05:17 AM
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Fabulous, but already a bit ridiculous. Always she has been an elegant woman, and a great woman of society ... but sometimes I think that she is turning into a cartoon of herself for much that certain type of press praises her. She has more than 50 years, is a grandmother, and looks like more the sister of her daughters than their mother. A thing is to want to age with dignity, and other one to seem that you have the whole life 20 years. 
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i totally agree with you. Julianne Moore said something like that when she was asked whether she would ever consider plastic surgery. It was more important to look like you have achieved something through the years, and not looking young forever.
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12-05-2007, 05:49 AM
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12-05-2007, 06:10 AM
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Duke, we have commented on this often. The Princess with a lot of official activity has needed to buy more clothes in less time.
The Queen repeats suits up to the boredom also, and uses suits and dresses that have up to 10 years. She buys few clothes every year, because she has an immense wardrobe, and because of it she can spend more in few pieces.
The Infantas have little official activity, and also they repeat enough, but on having had acts rarely a month it does not seem to us that they repeat so much.
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12-05-2007, 08:25 AM
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12-05-2007, 04:01 PM
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I don't think that's a matter of recycling clothes, it's a matter of Varela's clothing being ugly and cheap, Letizia deserves much better and many designers would kill at the opportunity to dress her (Elena gets things from Schlesser and Lacroix, Cristina gets from Burberry and del Pozo; other things they buy, but all in all they don't spend as much money in clothing as you may think)
It's better to buy some slighly more expensive clothing that can be consider classics, mix and match those, than get 15155454864 ugly Varela suits, gala gowns, skirts, dresses, etc
Varela is the issue here baby, I wouldn't wear something from him not even at gunpoint, so I don't get Letizia's loyalty to his brand
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12-05-2007, 04:27 PM
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On a general note, most ladies' outfits look and are cheap nowadays. Designers and quasi-designers make dresses that do not differ much from the glossy/shiny, of synthetic fabric, trashy clothes high-school girls wear for the prom.
It is not just the absence of talent and inspiration, it is not that many designers hate women, it is also the fact that high-quality, exquisite fabrics do not exist anymore because they are very costly. You will find lots of trashy taffeta, satin, chiffon and other glossy stuff appropriate for starlets, but you won't find the heavy,timeless crepe georgette, chantung, crepe de Chine or soie sauvage which used to make royal ladies, like Marina of Kent, look imperial in every sense of the word.
For years, I had been wondering why royal ladies, when in gala outfits, do not look as regal nowadays. The answers to this are many, but a central one is that there is competition between the ostentatious contemporary fabrics and the jewelry/diadems/decorations, often leading to disaster and, not rarely, making some personages look like beauty pageant participants. I guess, it is the matte but rich appearance of such fabrics as crepe georgette that allows the magnificence of the jewelry to excel, ultimately heightening, and adding gravitas to, the figure of the royal personage.
I would agree with Crisinaki that Christian Lacroix is among the very few talented ones with an exquisite sense of chic.
Insofar as recycling is concerned, there is no problem in the 21st century . A classic dress is a classic dress and may be worn again and again, whether one is a commoner, an aristocrat or royalty.
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