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Old 07-27-2020, 07:05 PM
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Link to the Electomania poll including interesting regional breakdowns.


https://electomania.es/epmonar10jul20/

PM Pedro Sánchez seems to rule out any move towards a republic in the current government.


https://elpais.com/espana/2020-07-27...tabilidad.html


The PM's statement in support of King Felipe VI comes shortly after his deputy, Pablo Iglesias, from the far-left Unidas Podemos bloc said that "the debate about the usefulness of the monarchy is growing in Spain, but admitted that constitutional change is unlikely in the short run.

Iglesias also distanced himself from the statement by the third vice-president of the Congress of Deputies, who called on King Felipe VI to abdicate and on a referendum on the monarchy to be held.
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:49 PM
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Can you provide a link to this survey?
Not at all. These days there are thousands of accounts, of course telephone numbers in which 300 to 1000 or 1500 people interview, so I ignore absolutely none. I only see people on the street when the kings go on their tour of Spain and I love it!
On the other hand, saying that Sánchez is a REPUBLICAN, he has "kidnapped" the king and he has it, preventing him from going to certain parts and now to places in Spain- Continuously pressuring the king to kick his father out of Spain, but he is a wolf in sheep's clothing: you'll never see him say this in public against the king, because that's why he has his communist voice doing his dirty work.
All of us in Spain know that Sánchez has the king kidnapped, because he cannot bear to have him take center stage. The ego is horrible and in a politician it is FATAL.
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Anti Monarchist protesters in Catalonia last week.

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Old 08-06-2020, 09:19 AM
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The departure from Spain of King Emeritus Juan Carlos has done well for the Monarchy. According to the survey conducted by Sociometric for EL ESPAÑOL, if Spaniards could choose the form of state today, they are more supportive of the current parliamentary monarchy, 54.9 than to exchange it for a republic, an option that supports 40.8. A difference that is close to 15 points.

https://www.elespanol.com/espana/pol...x_y0UllfHz50pA
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Old 08-06-2020, 09:28 AM
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Anti Monarchy protests in Pamplona today.

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Old 08-08-2020, 08:02 AM
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Anti Monarchy protests in Pamplona today.


A protest by a crowd of Basque separatists waving Basque and Soviet flags. Hardly surprising.

It is interesting that anti-monarchists are seizing on the article in the constitution that guarantees the inviolability of the King. Don't all kingdoms in Europe (Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden) have basically the same inviolability in their own constitutions? The UK of course doesn't have a written constitution, but I suppose the inviolability of the Queen is also assumed by the British courts.


I understand that the situation in Spain is different because no other European monarch (or former monarch) is under threat of criminal prosecution like JC, but, in any case, the inviolability of the King is hardly something that is unique to Spain or which can be claimed to be a legacy of the Franco regime.


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The departure from Spain of King Emeritus Juan Carlos has done well for the Monarchy. According to the survey conducted by Sociometric for EL ESPAÑOL, if Spaniards could choose the form of state today, they are more supportive of the current parliamentary monarchy, 54.9 than to exchange it for a republic, an option that supports 40.8. A difference that is close to 15 points.

https://www.elespanol.com/espana/pol...x_y0UllfHz50pA
A surprising surge in support for the monarchy compared to the July poll (less than one month ago). Could it be down to JC's exile only?
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Old 08-08-2020, 09:18 AM
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A protest by a crowd of Basque separatists waving Basque and Soviet flags. Hardly surprising.

It is interesting that anti-monarchists are seizing on the article in the constitution that guarantees the inviolability of the King. Don't all kingdoms in Europe (Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden) have basically the same inviolability in their own constitutions? The UK of course doesn't have a written constitution, but I suppose the inviolability of the Queen is also assumed by the British courts.
I understand that the situation in Spain is different because no other European monarch (or former monarch) is under threat of criminal prosecution like JC, but, in any case, the inviolability of the King is hardly something that is unique to Spain or which can be claimed to be a legacy of the Franco regime
A surprising surge in support for the monarchy compared to the July poll (less than one month ago). Could it be down to JC's exile only?
In the UK the Sovereign is the fount of justice and the law is made in their name. The Queen could not therefore prosecute herself (Regina vs Regina wouldn't work). Any trial would be by Parliament.

In September the CIS, the Spanish public research institute will conduct another survey into the desire to change the Constitution. The last such poll held in 2018 showed 70% in favour. There is a general feeling that the 1978 Constitution needs overhauled. The role of the King, immunity to prosecution and the state of the autonomous regions are likely to be targets for change.
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54.8 of the respondents are in favour of the Monarchy versus the 38.5 that bets on a republic. Eight out of ten consider Felipe VI to have acted well with his father.

Up to 71.3 of the Spaniards values "good" or "very well" Don Juan Carlos's decision to leave the country.

https://www.larazon.es/espana/202008...2c73y3mu4.html
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54.8 of the respondents are in favour of the Monarchy versus the 38.5 that bets on a republic. Eight out of ten consider Felipe VI to have acted well with his father.

https://www.larazon.es/espana/202008...2c73y3mu4.html

If those two latest polls are correct, it seems that JC's exile was an acceptable outcome for most of the Spanish public. Possibly the pressure for taking matters further and indicting the former king will also ease.


It is noteworthy though that, in the 18-34 age bracket, support for the republic is at 62.2 % and, for the monarchy, only 26.9 %. Conversely, in the 55+ age group, 74.6 % support the monarchy and only 19.7 % want a republic.
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