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Old 07-24-2021, 02:11 PM
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The Holy Roman Empire never had an Empress Regnant or a Protestant Emperor elected even after Reformation.

Maria Theresa could not be elected Holy Roman Empress but her husband Francis was elected as Emperor.

Towards the end of the Empire, how many electors were Protestant? I never fully understood why the ruler of the Habsburg lands (or, in Maria Theresa's case, her husband) was always elected the Holy Roman Emperor. Could you explain?
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Old 07-24-2021, 03:27 PM
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The Prince-electors of the Holy Roman Empire


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-elector

Imperial election


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The Imperial Princes of the Holy Roman Empire

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Old 07-29-2021, 04:51 AM
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Towards the end of the Empire, how many electors were Protestant? I never fully understood why the ruler of the Habsburg lands (or, in Maria Theresa's case, her husband) was always elected the Holy Roman Emperor. Could you explain?
Not always the Habsburgs were elected emperors. For example, after the death of Charles VI and the extinction of the original house of Habsburg in male line, before Maria Theres'a husband, Francis of Lorraine, became emperor with the support of his wife, a Bavarian prince from the House of Wittelsbach, Elector-Duke Charles Albert of Bavaria, was elected. He contested the Habsburgs' heritage with Maria Theresa and her husband. He gained enough support among the electors of the time, three of whom, including himself, were Wittelsbachs. Additionally, the French persuaded the electors of Brandenburg (Hohenzollerns) and Saxony (Wettins) to support the Bavarian. Charles Albert's candidacy was even stronger considering he succeeded in opening a dispute with Maria Theresa over her rights to Bohemia, which was also an electorate (in December 1741, shortly before the election took place in Frankfurt in February 1742, Charles Albert was even crowned King of Bohemia after conquering the country). Maria Theresa thus could not be considered at the election as neither an eligible candidate nor elector as her Bohemian throne was temporarily lost and officially denied. In effect, the Bavarian was elected and crowned emperor. Charles VII, as became known, shortly afterwards eventually lost Bohemia and the Austrians took revenge in invading Bavaria. The Emperor died in 1745 and his son and successor, Maximilian III Joseph, quickly made peace with Maria Theresa, promising his support for the election of Francis.
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Old 07-29-2021, 06:09 AM
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Wouldn't the Habsburgs have had the most Emperors among all other Imperial candidates?
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In the early 16th century, Henry VIII and Francois I both wanted to be elected Holy Roman Emperor - if they were around today, they would definitely be the sort of young men who are always doing "mine's bigger than yours" by getting the flashiest sports cars and so on - but Charles V had a bigger purse than theirs and offered bigger bribes! After that, no-one else seems to have seriously challenged the Habsburgs, except in Maria Theresa's case when there wasn't a male heir. I suppose everyone was more interested in their own lands.
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Old 07-29-2021, 09:46 AM
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The Habsburgs were the premier family of both the Holy Roman Empire and of Catholic Europe for centuries. The only family that rivaled them were the Capetingians of France. Other families such as the houses of Wittelsbach and Brabant (Hessen) did not come close to their status and influence in spite of being more ancient and longer reigning. Their claim to the Imperial crown was founded both on tradition, their wealth and them being the most powerful family not only in the Empire but for a long time in Europe and the world.
In fact a large part of the claim of Charles VII lay in him being the grandson and son-in-law of Habsburg emperors. This coupled with a desire to divide the Habsburg lands and a disdain for the Pragmatic sanction led to the other great powers of Europe supporting him.
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In the early 16th century, Henry VIII and Francois I both wanted to be elected Holy Roman Emperor
Louise de Savoie mother of Francois Ier almost bankrupted France in her attempts at working behind the scenes to have her son elected HRE .

Henry VIII going up against his nephew in law Charles V must have made interesting family politics!
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When Sigismund was Holy Roman Emperor from 1433 to 1437, there were two rival Popes, one in Italy and one in France. Eventually there was the emergence of a third Pope. As protector of the Church, Sigismund was instrumental in bringing about the Council of Constance. The Council resolved the question of papal legitimacy.
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Why did Holy Roman Emperor Rudolph II reverse his father Maximilian II's tolerant policy toward Protestantism?
At that time the two factions, the Protestants and Roman Catholics factions were destabilizing the political institutions

Therefore, by reversing his fathers policy of tolerance he sought to limit the influence of the Protestant nobles and representatives

Rudolf was unsuccessful and as a result the Habsburg archdukes had him entrust the matters of the empire to his brother Matthias. Of course, Matthias did not gain the Hungarian Crown until his brother's death in 1612

However, his support of the Catholic revival lead to further Protestant resistance and in 1618 the Bohemian Revolt became the first act that would mark the beginning of the Thirty Year's War
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On October 21, 1555 Holy Roman Emperor Charles V made Erard of Pallandt Earl of Culemborg.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:17 PM
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On December 25, 800 Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor.
On December 25, 1046 Pope Clement VI crowned Henry III as Holy Roman Emperor.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:52 PM
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I wonder what would have happened if Francis II hadn’t disbanded the Holy Roman Empire when Napoleon was invading?
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A number of electors were opposed to the election of Leopold I as Holy Roman Emperor.
The traditional Habsburg claim to the emperorship was challenged by France.
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A number of electors were opposed to the election of Leopold I as Holy Roman Emperor.
The traditional Habsburg claim to the emperorship was challenged by France.
And in the end he was the second longest-ruling Holy Roman Emperor with a reign of over 46 Years.
18 July 1658 – 5 May 1705

His reign saw the major gains against the Ottomans in Europe.
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List monarchs of Holy Roman Emperors/ King of the Romans


The Holy Roman Emperor, originally and officially the Emperor of the Romans during the Middle Ages, and also known as the German-Roman Emperor since the early modern period, was the ruler and head of state of the Holy Roman Empire. The title was held in conjunction with the title of king of Italy (Rex Italiae) from the 8th to the 16th century, and, almost without interruption, with the title of king of Germany (Rex Teutonicorum, lit. “King of the Teutons”) throughout the 12th to 18th centuries.

King of the Romans (Latin: Rex Romanorum; German: König der Römer) was the title used by the king of Germany following his election by the princes from the reign of Henry II (1002–1024) onward.

The title originally referred to any German king between his election until his being crowned Emperor by the Pope.
  1. Charlemagne (Charles I) (800-814) m. 1.Desiderata 2.Hildegard of Vinzgouw 3.Fastrada 4.Luitgard
  2. Louis the Pious (813-840) m. 1.Ermengarde of Hesbaye 2.Judith of Bavaria
  3. Lothair I (823-855) m. Ermengarde of Tours
  4. Louis II (855-875) m. Engelberga
  5. Charles II, the Bald (875-877) m. 1.Ermentrude of Orleans 2.Richilde of Provence
  6. Charles III, the Fat (881-888) m. Richardis of Swabia
  7. Guy III of Spoleto (891-894) m. Ageltrude
  8. Lambert (891-898)
  9. Arnulph (896-899) m. 1.Ota 2.Oda of West Francia 3.Vinburge
  10. Louis III, the Blind (901-905) m. 1.Anna of Constantinople 2.Adelaide
  11. Berengar I (915-924) m. 1.Bertila of Spoleto 2. Anna of Provence
  12. Otto I (936-973) m. 1.Eadgyth of England 2.Adelaide of Italy
  13. Otto II (973-983) m. Theophanu
  14. Otto III (983-1002)
  15. Henry II (1002-1024) m. Cunigunde of Luxembourg
  16. Conrad II (1024-1039) m. Gisela of Swabia
  17. Henry III (1028-1056) m. 1Gunhilda of Denmark 2.Agnes of Poitou
  18. Henry IV (1054-1106) m. 1.Bertha of Savoy 2.Eupraxia of Kiev
  19. Conrad (III) (Roman King 1087–1098) m. Maximilla (Matilda)
  20. Henry V (1099-1125) m. Matilda of England
  21. Lothair II (1125-1137) m. Richenza of Northeim
  22. Henry Berengar (Roman King 1147-1150)
  23. Friedrich I (1155-1190) (Roman King 1152) m. 1.Adelheid of Vohburg 2.Beatrice I, Countess of Burgundy
  24. Heinrich VI (1191-1197) (Roman King 1169; King of Sicily 1194) m. Constance I of Sicily
  25. Philipp (1198-1208) (Duke of Swabia; Roman King) m. Irene Angelina
  26. Otto IV (1209 -1218) (Roman King 1198) m. 1.Beatrice of Hohenstaufen 2.Maria of Brabant
  27. Friedrich II (1220-1250) (King of Sicily 1197; Roman King 1212) m. 1.Constance of Aragon 2.Isabella II of Jerusalem 3.Isabella of England
  28. Henry (VII) (Roman King 1220–1235) m. Margaret of Austria
  29. Conrad IV (1237-1254) (Roman King; King of Sicily 1250) m. Elisabeth of Bavaria
  30. Wilhelm (1254-1256) (Count of Holland; Roman King) m. Elisabeth of Brunswick-Lüneburg
  31. Richard (1256-1272) (Earl of Cornwall; Roman King) m. 1.Isabel Marshal 2.Sanchia of Provence ​3.Beatrice of Falkenburg
  32. Rudolf I (1273-1291) (Count of Hapsburg 1240; Roman King) m. 1.Gertrude of Hohenberg 2.Isabella of Burgundy
  33. Adolf (1292-1298) (Count of Nassau 1276; Roman King) m. Imagina of Isenburg-Limburg
  34. Albrecht I (1298-1308) (Duke of Austria 1282; Roman King) m. Elizabeth of Carinthia
  35. Heinrich VII (1308-1313) (Count of Luxemburg 1288) m. Margaret of Brabant
  36. Friedrich (III) (1314-1330) (Duke of Austria 1308; Roman King) m. Isabella of Aragon
  37. Ludwig IV (1314-1347) (Duke of Bavaria) m. 1.Beatrix of Świdnica 2.Margaret II, Countess of Holland
  38. Karl IV (1355-1378) (Roman King & King of Bohemia 1346) m. 1.Blanche of Valois 2.Anne of Bavaria 3.Anna von Schweidnitz 4.Elizabeth of Pomerania
  39. Wenzel (IV) (1376-1400) (Roman King; King of Bohemia 1378) m. 1.Joanna of Bavaria 2.Sophia of Bavaria
  40. Rupert (Roman King 1400-1410) m. Elisabeth of Hohenzollern
  41. Jobst of Moravia (Roman King 1410-1411) m. 1.Elisabeth of Opole 2.Agnes of Opole
  42. Sigismund (1433-1437) (King of Hungary 1387; Roman King 1411; King of Bohemia 1419) m. 1.Mary, Queen of Hungary 2.Barbara of Celje
  43. Albrecht II (1438-1439) (King of Bohemia & Hungary 1437; Roman King) m. Elizabeth of Luxembourg
  44. Friedrich III (1440-1493) (Archduke of Austria 1458) m. Eleanor of Portugal
  45. Maximilian I (1493-1519) (Roman King 1486) m. 1.Mary, Duchess of Burgundy 2.Anne, Duchess of Brittany 3.Bianca Maria Sforza
  46. Karl V (1519-1556) (King {as Carlos I} of Spain 1516; Roman King 1519) m. Isabella of Portugal
  47. Ferdinand I (1556-1564) (King of Bohemia & Hungary 1526) m. Anne of Bohemia and Hungary
  48. Maximilian II (1564-1576) m. Maria of Austria
  49. Rudolf II (1576-1612)
  50. Matthias (1612-1619) (King of Hungary 1608; King of Bohemia 1611) m. Anna of Tyrol
  51. Ferdinand II (1619-1637) m. 1.Maria Anna of Bavaria 2.Eleonora Gonzaga
  52. Ferdinand III (1637-1657) m. 1.Maria Anna of Austria 2.Maria Leopoldine of Austria 3.Eleonora Gonzaga
  53. Ferdinand IV (1653-1654) (King of Bohemia 1646; Roman King)
  54. Leopold I (1657-1705) m. 1.Margaret Theresa of Austria 2.Claudia Felicitas of Austria 3.Eleonore Magdalene of Neuburg
  55. Joseph I (1705-1711) (King of Bohemia 1690) m. Wilhelmine Amalie of Brunswick
  56. Karl VI (1711-1740) m. Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick
  57. Karl VII (1742-1745) (Elector of Bavaria 1726) m. Maria Amalia of Austria
  58. Maria Theresa (1745-1780) (Queen of Bohemia & Hungary) m. Francis III Stephen, Duke of Lorraine
  59. Franz I (1745-1765) (Duke of Lorraine 1729) m. Maria Theresa of Austria
  60. Joseph II (1765-1790) m. 1.Princess Isabella of Parma 2.Maria Josepha of Bavaria
  61. Leopold II (1790-1792) (Grand Duke of Tuscany 1765) m. Maria Luisa of Spain
  62. Franz II/I (1792-1806) (Emperor of Austria 1804; abdicated as Holy Roman Emperor 1806) m. 1.Elisabeth of Württemberg 2.Maria Teresa of Naples and Sicily 3.Maria Ludovika Beatrix of Modena 4.Caroline Augusta of Bavaria
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It is interesting to note that Ferdinand IV had a coronation in Ratisbon in 1653 but did not live to succeed his father.
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It is interesting to note that Ferdinand IV had a coronation in Ratisbon in 1653 but did not live to succeed his father.
Ferdinand was crowned King of the Romans as the Imperial heir and not Holy Roman Emperor.
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:09 PM
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In 1508 Maximilian I took the title Elected Holy Roman Emperor. He had the assent of Pope Julius II. This was suppose to end the custom that the Holy Roman Emperor had to be crowned by the Pope.
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