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09-26-2006, 07:54 AM
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Official Visit from Australia to The Netherlands: September 26-27, 2006
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09-26-2006, 11:46 AM
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09-26-2006, 04:00 PM
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Offical visit of the Gouverneur-Generaal Australia 26-27 September 2006
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09-26-2006, 04:22 PM
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wow!!! great photo's!!! princess Maxima looks stunning!!! and she wore the Emerald tiara!!!
CAN ANYONE HELP ME FOR HQ PHOTO'S OF THIS GALA DINNER?
www.ppe-agency.com has more photo's!! close ups of maxima and beatrix
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09-26-2006, 04:38 PM
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The diademe is not in full version yet / Máxima's diademes
The earrings worn by the Princess also belong to the diademe. If she asks the Court Jeweller to attach these to the diademe, then she will have 5 elegant prongs.
I think she keeps that in store for the future.
Princess Máxima is the most versatile wearer of diademes of all Crown Princesses:
1 - the diademe from the Aquamarine Parure
2 - the base with the diamond fleur-de-lys motifs from the Pavolnik Diademe
3 - the Diamond Stars Diademe
4 - the diademe from the Emerald Parure modified with five upright pearl spikes
5 - the triangular motif diamond diademe
6 - the Bandeau of old large rose-cut diamonds
7 - the diademe from the Emarald Parure, with emeralds, in a modified version
8 - the diademe from the Mellerio diamonds-and-rubies parure
9 - the diamond sun-ray motif diademe
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09-26-2006, 04:46 PM
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do you have picture's by your list Henri M? thank you
and how many times worn Maxima the same tiara
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09-26-2006, 04:51 PM
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Maxima looks wonderful tonight,the dress and jewels are perfect!
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09-26-2006, 06:33 PM
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09-26-2006, 06:37 PM
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Margriet
Maxima and Beatrix look fabulous! Where is Margariet? It always so sad to see Beatrix by herself at events such as these. I know she has the comfort of her family and especially the grandchildren...but it is a shame that her husband is no longer with her.
And here is a question (apologizing in advance if it has already been answered). Why wasn't her husband given a dukedom (thinking British) or a title when they got married? And was special dispensation given so that their sons could be Princes?
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09-26-2006, 06:39 PM
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LOL. When I looked at some pictures of Maxima, I thought to myself, "She looks pregnant..." Then, I remembered she IS!!
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09-26-2006, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Zonk
Maxima and Beatrix look fabulous! Where is Margariet? It always so sad to see Beatrix by herself at events such as these. I know she has the comfort of her family and especially the grandchildren...but it is a shame that her husband is no longer with her.
And here is a question (apologizing in advance if it has already been answered). Why wasn't her husband given a dukedom (thinking British) or a title when they got married? And was special dispensation given so that their sons could be Princes?
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I miss Margriet there to, but she looked a bit ill at Prinsjesdag, so maybe that prevented her from attending.
To awnser your question: according to author Dorine Hermans there was talk of making Pieter a Prince of The Netherlands, which was Juliana's wish. I believe Bernhard and Beatrix were against it, not as a personal vendetta against Pieter but against the principle. Later on it was opted to make Pieter a count, a title which could be inherited by his children, but sadly that plan led nowhere either, apparently HM The Queen again who was against it (as it would make the RF look snobbish & aristocratic titles have little value in dutch society)
Getting him a dukedom was not an option as the only duchy in The Netherlands is Limburg, and the Duchess of Limburg is HM The Queen :)
I am not exactly aware how Margriets chldren became princess but I assume it was arranged by a royal decree, supported by parlament, before her wedding. Juliana hated the thought to have A- B- and (C-?) standard grandchildren, so probably would have preferred the HRH Princes of the Netherlands for all of them, which luckily did not happen.
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Now back to the banquet: the girl from Buenos Aires does it again: bring a frish breeze in the royal vaults. I am so happy they changed the tiara, it looks much better this way, with 3 emerald prongs. I hope they will never even think of wearing it with upright pearls again. Good to see the necklace on her to, though the two brooches that belong to the parure could have been added to. I don't care to much about her dress though.
HM's dress looks nice and at least she is not hiding her favourite tiara completely...
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09-26-2006, 07:17 PM
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All spouses are created Prince(ss) in their own right
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Originally Posted by Zonk
Maxima and Beatrix look fabulous! Where is Margariet? It always so sad to see Beatrix by herself at events such as these. I know she has the comfort of her family and especially the grandchildren...but it is a shame that her husband is no longer with her.
And here is a question (apologizing in advance if it has already been answered). Why wasn't her husband given a dukedom (thinking British) or a title when they got married? And was special dispensation given so that their sons could be Princes?
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Since 1901 all spouses of the (future) Sovereign are created a Prince(ss) in their own right, with their own arms, their own personal standard and (since 1936) their own income. This to mark their own independent position apart from the (future) Sovereign.
Heinrich Wladimir Albrecht Ernst, Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Prince of the Wends, of Schwerin, of Ratzeburg, Count of Schwerin, Lord of the Lands Rostock and Stargard:
Per 6 February 1901 by Royal Decree Prins der Nederlanden, Hertog van Mecklenburg with the predicate '(His) Royal Highness'
Bernhard Leopold Friedrich Eberhard Julius Kurt Karl Gottfried Peter Prince of Lippe-Biesterfeld:
Per 6 January 1937 by Royal Decree Prins der Nederlanden, Prins van Lippe-Biesterfeld with the predicate '(His) Royal Highness'
Claus Georg Otto Wilhelm Friedrich Kurt von Amsberg (Mecklenburgian nobility):
Per 10 March 1966 by Royal Decree Prins der Nederlanden, Jonkheer van Amsberg with the predicate '(His) Royal Highness'
Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti
Per 2 February 2002 by Royal Decree Prinses der Nederlanden, Prinses van Oranje-Nassau with the predicate '(Her) Royal Highness'
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The titles in the Royal House are not hereditary as is the use in nobility. For each new generation of 'legal descendants of His Majesty King Willem I Frederik, Prince of Orange-Nassau' as the Constitution says and no furtherer related to the Sovereign than two degrees of consanguity, by Royal Decree titles are bestowed.
Since the modernized Act on the membership of the Royal House 2002 only children of the present, the former and the future Sovereign can be a Prince(ss) of the Netherlands, Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau.
That is why the children of Prince Friso and Prince Constantijn are no Princes/Princesses but were bestowed (hereditary) noble titles.
Luana, Zaria, Eloïse, Claus-Casimir and Leonore namely are no 'children of a present, former or future Sovereign'.
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09-26-2006, 07:25 PM
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Princess Margariet
Henri M..thanks for the information...but I was really asking about Margariet's children. How did they become Princes' if Margariet's husband isn't one?
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09-26-2006, 07:28 PM
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No three prongs
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I am so happy they changed the tiara, it looks much better this way, with 3 emerald prongs.
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It indeed looks much better but it are no three prongs at all. The two emerald 'mini-prongs' actually were emeralds mounted in the monture itself, in between the diamonds.
The Court Jeweller has replaced these two emeralds by two diamonds and moved these emeralds on top of the monture.
The Princess actually is wearing the top parts of the original prongs as earrings. I think that we will see this diademe with five prongs in the future, when there is a grand banquet (this evening was 'only' demi-gala).
But I agree: la princesa is doing it again!
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09-26-2006, 07:36 PM
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A once-and-never-again decision
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Henri M..thanks for the information...but I was really asking about Margariet's children. How did they become Princes' if Margariet's husband isn't one?
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The titles for the children of Princess Margriet were a pain in the ass for the High Council of Nobility, which gave a negative advice against this ' horreur'. But Queen Juliana, as stubborn as she sometimes could be, categorically refused to have another attitude for sons of Princess Beatrix and sons of Princess Margriet. She refused to have 'A-princes and B-princes' as she stated. It was a pain in the ass for the Cabinet.
A strange Royal Decree was made in which the sons of Princess Margriet were made a Prince of Orange-Nassau with the predicate '(His) Highness'. Only personal and non-hereditary.
Not a succes: there anyhow became A-princes and B-princes. That was unavoidable. And now the strange situation exists that the children of these Princes are 'nothing'. Let us hope that the Queen will bestow a noble title on professor Van Vollenhoven, so that all his children and grandchildren will become a noble too.
Queen Beatrix has not repeated her mother's scenario. Instead she bestowed hereditary noble titles for her two younger sons. At least the children of Count Claus-Casimir will also be a Count(ess) van Oranje-Nassau van Amsberg. (Noble titles are hereditary in the male lineage only).
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09-26-2006, 08:05 PM
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I love Maxima's new tiara!! It's very elegant, and I love emeralds!
Not so keen on the dress though...the pattern is a bit weird for me
Oh well, she looks radiant anyways
I like how on PPE when describing their photos they are already calling her 'the pregnant Princess Maxima'
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09-26-2006, 08:13 PM
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She looks wonderful in the gown and jewels.
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09-26-2006, 10:31 PM
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Maxima looks tired (understandably) but she still looks spectacular in her dress with the emerald parure. The Queen looks great as well as the First Lady. All three look very elegant.
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09-27-2006, 01:13 AM
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Princess Maxima looks wonderful and WA looks very happy. They seem like a great couple.
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09-27-2006, 01:26 AM
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LOL. When I looked at some pictures of Maxima, I thought to myself, "She looks pregnant..." Then, I remembered she IS!! 
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This is funny!!!  . Maxima looks beautiful in the pictures,and yes W-A looks very happy!
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