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08-24-2022, 12:09 AM
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That explanation isn’t very good. It isn’t really kindergarten…they start younger and the expectations are higher. I speak as someone who has experience of both. Not a right or wrong just the way they do it.
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I guess it is in terms of age... But yes, I've always been surprised about the low expectations of Kindergarten in the USA. What are 'Reception'-pupils supposed to be able to do at the end of the year (so before they start Year 1)?
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08-24-2022, 08:35 AM
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I guess it is in terms of age... But yes, I've always been surprised about the low expectations of Kindergarten in the USA. What are 'Reception'-pupils supposed to be able to do at the end of the year (so before they start Year 1)?
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I have always been in favour of delaying formal education until they are 7. That time stimulating their minds and creativity is gold dust. The government don't see it like that but reception is still very much child initiated and Year 1 isn't formal whole class learning either.
Expectations just changed this year with a huge emphasis on self regulation but in terms of academics. They have to be able to read simple books including up to ten digraphs...that would be two letters for one sound. They need to be pretty confident with numbers to ten and practically adding, subtracting. Doubling. Halving and if they are very able exploring multiplication and division as well as counting in 2's etc. They need to write a simple sentence, they don't have to use capital letters and fullstops but be aware of them. Letter formation needs to be pretty good. Huge emphasis on vocabulary now as well.
Of course none of that is important and doesn't predict later academic success, except perhaps vocabulary which has always been shown to be a good predictor. We also report on characteristics of effective learning: engagement, active learning and problem solving etc. That has been shown to predict later success. So no it doesn't matter if you can read or write at 5 but the UK education system is pretty intense and you wouldn't want your kids behind either.
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08-24-2022, 09:33 AM
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School attendance is mandatory from the age of 5, but most children go into a reception class at 4, and many attend nurseries from the age of 2, or even the age of a few months if there isn't a non-working parent or other family carer available. You wouldn't really want your children to be going into Year 1 without basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills - the 3 Rs.
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08-24-2022, 09:40 AM
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School attendance is mandatory from the age of 5, but most children go into a reception class at 4, and many attend nurseries from the age of 2, or even the age of a few months if there isn't a non-working parent or other family carer available. You wouldn't really want your children to be going into Year 1 without basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills - the 3 Rs.
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Quite. The numbers are minimal unless coming from abroad as the pre school education will no longer be funded. You can delay entry by a year if you appeal on the basis of special education needs. But again hens teeth and I have had two my entire career...both with ASD (autism). There is no facilitaty to repeat a year in the UK and none to delay entry for summer children based on not emotionally being ready. Things that are provided in other countries. In private of course all those things are possible.
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08-24-2022, 01:30 PM
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Reception was known as first year infants in my day, but then the system of numbering years was changed. It’s effectively the first year of school, but it isn’t called Year 1 as technically it’s not compulsory. Which is confusing! It’ll be nice for Louis to start in the first year, whereas George and Charlotte will have the issue of going into forms with established friendship groups; but I’m sure they’ll soon settle in.
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08-28-2022, 11:44 AM
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According to this Hello article the Cambridges kids will soon be saying goodbye to their Spanish nanny Maria. Can anyone confirm this to be true?
The couple will still have needs for a nanny especially when they are carrying out engagements or taking oversees trips
https://www.hellomagazine.com/healthandbeauty/mother-and-baby/20220828149432/kate-middleton-prince-william-biggest-sign-yet-no-more-children/
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08-28-2022, 11:58 AM
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According to this Hello article the Cambridges kids will soon be saying goodbye to their Spanish nanny Maria. Can anyone confirm this to be true?
The couple will still have needs for a nanny especially when they are carrying out engagements or taking oversees trips
https://www.hellomagazine.com/health...more-children/
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I haven't read the article but is it not that the nanny will be living in separate accommodation when they move to Windsor
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08-28-2022, 12:09 PM
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I think Maria - as well as their live in staff are staying nearby. There is a number of small staff houses in the vicinity on the Windsor Estate. She will not be leaving them - just not staying overnight in their accommodation. That been said it is very easy to talk to these places at any times. So she would be able to put the kids to sleep and walk home in 15 min. There is really no need to live at Adelaide Cottage.
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08-28-2022, 01:31 PM
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It's unusual for Hello! to say something misleading like that. I don't think there's been any suggestion that the nanny will be leaving: she just won't be living-in any more.
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08-28-2022, 02:15 PM
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The article specifically states
"The royal children will also be saying goodbye to their beloved live-in Spanish Norland nanny Maria Borrallo".
While Hello magazine is not a well-reputable magazine, they don't "invent" stories either. I was just wondering...as that line seems to suggest that Maria will no longer be working with the family. I guess in time we'll see.
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08-28-2022, 03:03 PM
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Hello's a very reputable magazine. Maybe it's just been put badly and they only mean that she won't be living with them any more.
Some of the parents at the new school are moaning about the security and attention that having three royal pupils will bring, but I'm sure that it'll be as low-key as possible. I don't know who's come up with the idea of armed police in the corridors.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals...rents-27850211
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08-28-2022, 06:06 PM
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I think Maria - as well as their live in staff are staying nearby. There is a number of small staff houses in the vicinity on the Windsor Estate. She will not be leaving them - just not staying overnight in their accommodation. That been said it is very easy to talk to these places at any times. So she would be able to put the kids to sleep and walk home in 15 min. There is really no need to live at Adelaide Cottage.
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Previously I read that on the property of the Cottage itself there is a staff building. On Google Maps you can clearly see the main house (top-right) and some other attached building in a different style (bottom-left). I assume(d) that would be used for staff housing - which most likely would include the nanny.
Somewhere it was also problematized that the children would need to say goodbye to their dogs - when in reality, dogs aren't allowed on the school grounds, so they cannot take them to school (or at least would need to leave them in the car - I assume they didn't take them to the school grounds at their former school either). So, this reporting could also be misleading in that sense.
According to Hello, they are saying goodbye to their LIVE-IN nanny (following a general sentence that they will no longer have live-in staff), which is not necessarily the same as them saying goodbye to their nanny. As I don't expect them to do away with all their other current live-in staff either - but the arrangements will be different as a result of the move.
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08-28-2022, 06:13 PM
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Hello Magazine and Emily Nash the royal editor are reliable. Hello Magazine online isn’t so reliable I’m always correcting them on twitter as they make mistakes all the time.
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08-28-2022, 10:47 PM
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I just find it funny that parents would not be happy with having security around the kids while at school. I very seriously doubt it will be a interruption.
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08-29-2022, 04:21 AM
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It seems to be the fear of the unknown. They have no clue yet as to what the security measures will be but are worried in advance.
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08-29-2022, 06:26 AM
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I agree it’s just fear of the unknown. My brother went to primary school with a high profile person’s child and while he mentioned the security guards and where they stayed etc once or twice it really wasn’t any kind of deal. Also Lambrook is on substantial land. The other children won’t even see them that often I warrant and if Kate and William go to things like the carol service there isn’t really a big deal having guards on the door…which used to happen once or twice when I was at school things of my brothers were said child’s parent was. They also always came in last etc. people were used to it. One of the tougher things I imagine is that there will now be a whole new privacy world around the school and they will be unable to mention it online etc.
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08-30-2022, 08:26 PM
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I agree it’s just fear of the unknown. My brother went to primary school with a high profile person’s child and while he mentioned the security guards and where they stayed etc once or twice it really wasn’t any kind of deal. Also Lambrook is on substantial land. The other children won’t even see them that often I warrant and if Kate and William go to things like the carol service there isn’t really a big deal having guards on the door…which used to happen once or twice when I was at school things of my brothers were said child’s parent was. They also always came in last etc. people were used to it. One of the tougher things I imagine is that there will now be a whole new privacy world around the school and they will be unable to mention it online etc.
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I agree that new rules around privacy could potentially be more of a hassle than the presence of a well trained security team, but I think schools in general are now very vigilant about protecting the privacy of their students. My son is headed to kindergarten this year and the long list of rules surrounding privacy makes it apparent that there many adults who can’t be trusted to use common sense with cell phones and social media any more than teenagers can, even when there are no royal children involved.
I would probably be a little concerned if I were a parent at Lambrook, mainly about potential hassle from the press, paparazzi, and so on. But if it wasn’t a major issue in London I doubt it will be in Windsor, especially since I assume the new school is less physically exposed than a London day school.
Any other changes will be easy enough for the parents to get used to, and will be things the children will barely notice.
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08-31-2022, 01:59 AM
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I agree that new rules around privacy could potentially be more of a hassle than the presence of a well trained security team, but I think schools in general are now very vigilant about protecting the privacy of their students. My son is headed to kindergarten this year and the long list of rules surrounding privacy makes it apparent that there many adults who can’t be trusted to use common sense with cell phones and social media any more than teenagers can, even when there are no royal children involved.
I would probably be a little concerned if I were a parent at Lambrook, mainly about potential hassle from the press, paparazzi, and so on. But if it wasn’t a major issue in London I doubt it will be in Windsor, especially since I assume the new school is less physically exposed than a London day school.
Any other changes will be easy enough for the parents to get used to, and will be things the children will barely notice.
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Agreed. If it’s as simple as “don’t take photos of your kids with other students without permission from that student’s parents,” that’s basically the norm at most schools now, even if not as strictly enforced
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