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Old 01-17-2016, 08:38 PM
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A King's Story

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They have already made a movie about Dukes of Windsor?
A King's Story, a documentary from 1965, is based on the Duke of Windsor's autobiography* of the same name.

* (or perhaps just his memoirs)
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:37 AM
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Wallis Simpson who stole King Edward VIII's heart's mementos to be auctioned* | Daily Mail Online
I don't think I have seen the first photo before she looks stunning I never thought of her being good looking before


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And always more attractive in 3/4 shots or with mouth closed. IMO. Her personality clearly elevated her allure.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:14 PM
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How Edward began As Prince of Wales

Betsy Prioleau discusses the Duchess
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:10 PM
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It's extraordinary how much Edward was worshipped and adored, and how let down British people were by his actions in 1936.

As far as Wallis's looks are concerned there was, of course, no photoshop in those days, but there was plenty of airbrushing out of physical flaws. Fashionable photographers would remove inches from the waistline of their clients, double chins, wrinkles, bags under the eyes, and, in Wallis's case a huge mole she had near her mouth. She had lovely eyes and was a very witty and lively person but at no stage was she pretty, IMO.

I believe that photo dates from when she was presented at Court in the early 1930's. She's wearing the obligatory Prince of Wales feathers headdress.
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Old 02-07-2016, 04:33 AM
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See the Daily Mail business model in working: assemble some photographs, invent some controversial sparking headlines and open the sewers for insults, vomit, vitriol, hate, smear, etc.

Click-click-click-click!!!! And with every mouseclick of every visitor to that webpage the Daily Mail cash machine is flapping the pounds out...

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Old 02-25-2016, 11:49 AM
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A photo album detailing the Duke of Windsor's trip to Nazi Germany in 1937 is to be sold at auction.

It was compiled and captioned by Edward's sole equerry, Sir Dudley Forwood, and has been in his family ever since.

The album features pictures - many of them previously unseen - of the former king meeting top ranking Nazis, including Adolf Hitler.

More than 60 pictures detail the official visits the Duke went on with his new wife Wallis Simpson, who had been the cause of the abdication crisis the previous year.
Read more: Photo album showing Duke of Windsor's trip to Nazi Germany to be auctioned - BT
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:54 AM
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Monstrous deceptions were all the rage back then. I think of the complicity of the press in covering up Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt's disability. It was a different press back then.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:32 AM
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i liked finding this blog article on the residence of the duke and duchess of windsor in paris, which seems to be located at 24 Boulevard Suchet. the residence is an elegant hotel particulier which belonged back then to the city of paris, now to Mohamed Al Fayed. the furniture and art of their house was donated at the end of wallis' life to museums of paris.

it's such a beautiful property.

http://haute.decoration.over-blog.co...-75509641.html
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:30 PM
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... That portrait of the Duchess of Windsor was auctioned after her death.
It is now with the National Portrait Gallery. The NPG bought it in 1998. Does anyone remember anything about the intervening owners?
Here BTW is the artist, Brockhurst, working on the portrait. http://images.npg.org.uk/264_325/7/1/mw249071.jpg
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:13 PM
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Images of the Duke of Windsor meeting Adolf Hitler during a 1937 visit remain controversial. As 60 photos showing the duke and his new wife meeting the Nazi leadership sell at auction for £6,830, BBC News examines the story behind the pictures.
Read more: When the Duke of Windsor met Adolf Hitler - BBC News
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:25 AM
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Wallis Simpson/Duchess of Windsor paid a heavy price for falling in love with a future King. So much garbage has been thrown at her; when she was alive and many years after her death. Spreading rumors about her sex is pretty low.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:37 AM
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Wallis Simpson/Duchess of Windsor paid a heavy price for falling in love with a future King. So much garbage has been thrown at her; when she was alive and many years after her death. Spreading rumors about her sex is pretty low.
Of all the many things I have read about the Duchess, they have agreed on one thing. She liked a good gossip session.
So do I, but I also know what goes around come around.
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:16 AM
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Of all the many things I have read about the Duchess, they have agreed on one thing. She liked a good gossip session.
So do I, but I also know what goes around come around.
You can't compare her treatment to gossip. This lady has been trashed in countless ways for decades. We all know it's due to the King's abdication. She is blamed for coming along and stealing a King away from a throne and sacred duty.

Wallis wasn't a great beauty, that's clear, but to call the woman a man is beyond low.

The late King/Duke of Windsor had his faults and short comings, Lord knows. I just wonder if anyone will ever be fair and realize part of the reason why he threw away his throne and duty to the empire is because of the treatment he recieved from those same people.

The Crises of 1936 isn't just Edward and Wallis's fault, just saying.
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Old 04-30-2016, 05:47 PM
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Wallis Simpson

On 25/4/2016 I tried to post the following comment on the article about Wallis Simpson at:

On This Day: Wallis, Duchess of Windsor Passes Away | The Royal Forums

Unfortunately, the comment did not seem to be published so I thought I would post it here in case it is of interest:

Wallis Simpson was, in law, ‘Her Royal Highness’ from the moment of her marriage to Edward. The matter is fully explained:

https://www.academia.edu/17178874/Wa..._real_princess

Basically, Edward was an HRH from birth and remained so, as the son of a monarch, even after his abdication (he could not renounce the fact that he was his father’s son), and Wallis Simpson took the rank, title and style of her husband under the Common Law. George VI had no power to over-rule the Common Law. Only an Act of Parliament could have deprived Edward (and thus Wallis) of his rank, title and style of HRH – and there was no such Act.

Strangely enough, the editors of Wikipedia will not even permit a mention of the fact that there is even a debate on the issue. The words on her gravestone are wrong and should be corrected.
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:15 PM
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The fount of all honours in the UK is the monarch. As there was a debate about whether or not Edward even retained the HRH style after his abdication (it was eventually decided that he was still an HRH) it was perfectly within the King's remit to decide that as Edward had basically renounced his rights in so many ways - and had himself suggested a morganatic marriage he was going to have such a marriage.

It is also being talked about for the next reign - that the wife of the King won't be Queen.

As the headstone was approved by the present Queen and she knows the ins and outs of titles I will stick with her decision and that Wallis was denied the HRH (had they pushed the issue it is highly possible that legislation would have been passed - to even strip Edward - and that itself was discussed - that the legislation would be that as he had abdicated he gave up all rights to the HRH styling as well - hence the compromise - she didn't get it but he did).
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:53 PM
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I don't think you can have read the linked paper. The King could use the royal prerogative to deprive Edward of his title of HRH, but what he could not do was to deprive Wallis of the title of HRH if Edward was an HRH - because, under the Common Law, which the monarch cannot override, Wallis took the rank, title and style of her husband. So, since Edward was undeniably an HRH from birth and did not (and could not) renounce that title, Wallis took the title HRH on her marriage to him. If you read the paper, you will see that the experts agree on this. PS The monarch is most definitely not the fount of all honour in this country. It's an interesting story but a long one.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:22 PM
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I don't think you can have read the linked paper. The King could use the royal prerogative to deprive Edward of his title of HRH, but what he could not do was to deprive Wallis of the title of HRH if Edward was an HRH - because, under the Common Law, which the monarch cannot override, Wallis took the rank, title and style of her husband. So, since Edward was undeniably an HRH from birth and did not (and could not) renounce that title, Wallis took the title HRH on her marriage to him. If you read the paper, you will see that the experts agree on this. PS The monarch is most definitely not the fount of all honour in this country. It's an interesting story but a long one.
My compliments for your well-written and insightful post. I agree with you. Like under common law the spouse of a titled person can be addressed by her husband's title, this principle did count for Wallis like it counts for Marie-Christine Freiin von Reibnitz. But of course there is a difference in theory and practice.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:31 PM
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Thank you for your reply. You say that 'a titled person can be addresses by her husband's title' but I am talking about the law; that is, what Wallis' title was IN LAW. There may be a difference between law and practice but that fact that practice (what is done) differs from the law (what is legal) does not alter the law.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:50 PM
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The title couldn't be stopped - hence she was Duchess.

The style was stopped - and it was discussed about passing legislation (my great-uncle was in the government at the time and attended many of the relevant meetings - that is my source - many of those discussions were not recorded officially however) - and styles are the preserve of the monarch.

I don't need to 'read the linked papers' as I have studied and written on this topic (it was the basis of my Honours thesis for my BA at university in the 1970s using my great-uncles letters and correspondence as the basis of that thesis given his position.

The decision made by the government was that it was down to the King to decide - if he felt legislation was necessary to deprive her of the title but as the ruling from the relevant people at the time (as now with the Wessex children) is that all that is needed is for the monarch's will to be made known then that was all that was needed.

Common Law is not 'law' in a legislation sense but a body of practice developed through precedent. The King used a new precedent and Elizabeth has followed that precedence with the Wessex children and even with Camilla.
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