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03-16-2014, 05:50 PM
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03-16-2014, 06:05 PM
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Sorry, Dman (post 1748). 
Who curties to whom?
The Queen altered the Order of Precedence in the Royal family twice in recent times: first, following the Prince of Wales' marriage and second, after William's.
The new Rules of Court make it clear that the Duchess of Cambridge, when she is not accompanied by Prince William, must curtsy to the “blood princesses”, the Princess Royal, Princess Alexandra, and the daughters of the Duke of York, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie. Earlier, after Charles remarried, the Queen changed the Order of Precedence “on blood principles” so that neither Princess Anne nor Princess Alexandra, the granddaughter of George V, would have to curtsy to Camilla when her husband was not present. The Duchess of Cambridge, when William is with her, needs only to curtsy to the Prince of Wales, the Duchess of Cornwall, the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh.
Although the etiquette may seem arcane, it is taken very seriously by the Royal family, whose members bow and curtsy to each other in public and in private. The Order of Precedence affects other aspects of royal protocol, such as who arrives first at an event. For example, the Duchess of Cornwall, in 2006, was forced to wait in the drizzle outside the Guards Chapel, Windsor, for the arrival of Princess Anne at a memorial service, because Charles had not accompanied her.
These rules seem faintly ridiculous to me but they're what Her Majesty decided, and, after all, it's her Court and her family.
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03-16-2014, 11:16 PM
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I wonder if Charlotte Casiraghi curtseys to royalty outside of her family when she meets them at official events? I'm thinking TSH Prince Albert II and Princess Charlene's wedding, etc.
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03-17-2014, 01:14 AM
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As Prince Albert and Princess Charlene have been seen to curtsey to reigning Kings and Queens I would expect that Charlotte, who isn't even a Princess, would do so.
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03-17-2014, 02:31 AM
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Sorry, Dman (post 1748).
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I think the story turned out not to be true.
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03-17-2014, 02:36 AM
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I wonder if Charlotte Casiraghi curtseys to royalty outside of her family when she meets them at official events? I'm thinking TSH Prince Albert II and Princess Charlene's wedding, etc.
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I think that out of A&C wedding, i think that there are very few chances that Charlotte attends a royal event. Unless if she suddenly marries Pcs Harry...
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03-17-2014, 10:59 AM
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Wow, that's a lot of curtsies!
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03-17-2014, 12:33 PM
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I think Charlotte would follow whatever international protocol says she should do. She remarked that she didn't like to be called a princess because she wasn't a princess , and it was disrespectful to her family and to protocol.
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03-18-2014, 05:51 AM
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Crown Princess Mary curtseys to the Queen during a state banquet dinner at Amalienborg Palace last night. (video, 16:36)
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03-19-2014, 04:29 AM
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Sorry, Dman (post 1748).
Who curties to whom? |
Their is a misunderstanding: It is the Order of Precedence - who arrives/goes first etc.
The members of the english royal family courtsy only to the Queen, DOE, (and while she lived) to Queen Mum.
The do NOT courtsie to each other  You will find NO evidence otherwise.
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03-19-2014, 05:10 AM
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Their is a misunderstanding: It is the Order of Precedence - who arrives/goes first etc.
The members of the english royal family courtsy only to the Queen, DOE, (and while she lived) to Queen Mum.
The do NOT courtsie to each other You will find NO evidence otherwise. |
TBH, it wouldn't surprise me if they did when they're in private. Many have moaned and groaned that there's not a lot of public display of tiaras in the BRF but it is known that they do dress to the nines for the private holiday dinners and traditions such as the Ghillies Ball still run strong. It used to be commonplace that a man would bow to a woman and she'd curtsy to him. To me, its a sign of respect that is being kept alive. Too bad that now its primarily only to denote who is superior to who.
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03-19-2014, 08:57 AM
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Sorry, Dman (post 1748).
Who curties to whom?
The Queen altered the Order of Precedence in the Royal family twice in recent times: first, following the Prince of Wales' marriage and second, after William's... |
Yes, as others have pointed out, that is the (Court) Order of Precedence. It does not necessarily translate into " who curtsies to whom". For example, I'd have a hard time believing that an unaccompanied Duchess of Cambridge would be expected to curtsey to either of the York Princesses.
v On a different note, here is Baron Coe of Renmore (aka Sebastian Coe) greeting HM with a deep bow at the Commonwealth Day Service last week.
Thumbnail image forms a cropped portion of a much larger photograph
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Bowing & curtsies for the Spanish Royal Family as they arrive at the lying in state of the late Duke of Suarez in Madrid this morning.
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03-24-2014, 10:41 AM
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Pablo Suárez y Flores (a grandson of the late Duke of Suárez) bows to the King. (video, 0:39)
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03-29-2014, 01:53 PM
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HRH The Duchess of Cambridge curtsies HRH Crown Princess Margareta of Romania
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03-29-2014, 05:36 PM
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Nicely done.
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