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01-03-2015, 11:10 AM
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Legally, she has no royal titles because the monarchy was abolished in 1918, and titles were made a part of one's surname. Friedrich Georg married an English woman. Their children were born in the UK, registered with the surname von Preussen. In Germany, the surname is Prinz or Prinzessin von Preussen.
The use of the Prussian titles in a social connection is another matter.
Foreign titles are no longer recognized for use in the UK by British citizens, since the 1930s. This means the Duke of Wellington's Spanish title is not recognized for the last duke or the new duke.
By the way His or Her Grace is NEVER abbreviated to HG. Always written out. It is also the practice to not style heir by new title until after the funeral of previous peer.
By the way, HG is never
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01-03-2015, 11:13 AM
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When HRH Princess Antonia of Prussia married Lord Arthur Wellesley, Marquess of Douro, she never used her Prussian title anymore.
Since her marriage Princess Antonia has been known by the title Marchioness of Douro. After the burial of her father-in-law, she will be known as the Duchess of Wellington with the prefix "Your Grace" / "Her Grace".
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The new duke's name is Charles. Moreover, she never had a legal royal title. Her legal name in the UK at birth: Miss Antonia von Preussen. Social use is another matter. Nor was Charles ever Lord Arthur: Lord Christian name is for younger sons of dukes and marquesses.
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01-03-2015, 11:23 AM
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Legally, she has no royal titles because the monarchy was abolished in 1918, and titles were made a part of one's surname. Friedrich Georg married an English woman. Their children were born in the UK, registered with the surname von Preussen. In Germany, the surname is Prinz or Prinzessin von Preussen.
The use of the Prussian titles in a social connection is another matter.
Foreign titles are no longer recognized for use in the UK by British citizens, since the 1930s. This means the Duke of Wellington's Spanish title is not recognized for the last duke or the new duke.
By the way His or Her Grace is NEVER abbreviated to HG. Always written out. It is also the practice to not style heir by new title until after the funeral of previous peer.
By the way, HG is never
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Thank you so much for the explanation, Marlene. 
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01-03-2015, 11:32 AM
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The new duke's name is Charles. Moreover, she never had a legal royal title. Her legal name in the UK at birth: Miss Antonia von Preussen. Social use is another matter. Nor was Charles ever Lord Arthur: Lord Christian name is for younger sons of dukes and marquesses.
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The new Duke is actually Arthur Charles Valerian Wellesley, but goes by Charles. With 1 exception, the eldest son of the Duke of Wellington/the sons in the direct line have always had Arthur as their first name.
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01-03-2015, 04:50 PM
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yes, that is his full name, but has never been called Arthur. His father was known as Valerian, although Arthur was his first name. The new earl of mornington is Arthur and his three and half week old brother is Alfred.
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01-03-2015, 05:28 PM
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I think this has gone a bit off topic (fascinating though!) perhaps more suited for the British Aristocracy thread.
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01-03-2015, 07:12 PM
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When Prince Charles and Princess Anne of Great Britain were small children, a visitor found them playing a game called "Visitors".
Visitors was a game in which Anne and Charles, at Anne's direction, charged in and out of the shrubbery.
They bowed to each other like state functionaries.
Who would contemplate that Bowing could be turned into a game?
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02-09-2015, 12:42 PM
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02-27-2015, 10:24 PM
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A future king. It winds up that it's good Catherine is not with him, I think, as pleasant as seeing a couple is. We see him more and for some reason I think that's important. Cements that he is a mature man and who he is destined to be.
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03-05-2015, 06:44 AM
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03-17-2015, 11:46 AM
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Danish Princesses curtseys to the King & Queen of the Netherlands today. (video)
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03-17-2015, 11:47 AM
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To me it is weird that royalborn Princesses or friends even (Mary) suddely go through the knees... It is a nice honour and it looked splendid.
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03-17-2015, 12:37 PM
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Top!!
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03-17-2015, 04:05 PM
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Very charming and well done.
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03-17-2015, 04:25 PM
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Under QMII's watchful eyes there was no chance that CP Mary, or the other members of the family would not honor the incoming monarchs.
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03-17-2015, 06:18 PM
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Danish Princesses curtseys to the King & Queen of the Netherlands today. (video)
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Lovely video. Thanks for posting.
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03-17-2015, 06:28 PM
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Nice video, I noticed CP Frederik didn't bow to the King and Queen.
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03-17-2015, 06:31 PM
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You're right. He didn't but Joachim did.
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