The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #21  
Old 06-24-2020, 03:04 PM
theroyalfly's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: N/A, Australia
Posts: 1,423
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blog Real View Post
Felix, Louis and Sébastien are also Princes of bourbon of Parme and Princess Alexandra is also Princess of Bourbon of Parme.
That is why I have this doubt about Prince Charles, because he is a Prince of Luxembourg, unlike the cousins who are Princes of Nassau.
I'm also a bit curious but I think Prince of Bourbon-Parma is only for the descendants of the Grand Duke and the heir of the Grand Duchy.

Correct me if I'm wrong because Prince Jean and Prince Guillame's children are just Prince/Princess of Nassau.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-24-2020, 03:17 PM
Blog Real's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Lisboa, Portugal
Posts: 5,178
Quote:
Originally Posted by theroyalfly View Post
I'm also a bit curious but I think Prince of Bourbon-Parma is only for the descendants of the Grand Duke and the heir of the Grand Duchy.

Correct me if I'm wrong because Prince Jean and Prince Guillame's children are just Prince/Princess of Nassau.
Yes only the sons of the Grand Duke and grand duke heir have the title of prince of Bourbon-Parma. That's why I asked if Prince Charles has that title.
__________________

__________________
My blogs about monarchies
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-25-2020, 03:03 PM
Duc_et_Pair's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City, Netherlands
Posts: 10,700
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blog Real View Post
Yes only the sons of the Grand Duke and grand duke heir have the title of prince of Bourbon-Parma. That's why I asked if Prince Charles has that title.
In 1995 Grand-Duke Jean issued a Decree in which the name of the House and the surname of the grand-ducal family was established: Nassau.

The same Decree established that the members of the grand-ducal family are Prince (Princesse) de Luxembourg and Prince (Princesse) de Nassau with the prefix HRH.

No longer the title Prince (Princesse) de Bourbon-Parma. With this the HRH was no longer derived from the House of Bourbon-Parma but from the House of Luxembourg itself.

In 2006 Grand-Duke Henri modified the Decree of 1995: the surname is not Nassau but de Nassau.

So far so good. After this the title Prince de Bourbon-Parma popped up again for children of a Grand-Duke and children of a Hereditary Grand-Duke. But in daily practice only the Grand-Duke and the Hereditary Grand-Duke are connected with this title.

Note that Félix de Bourbon, Prince de Parme was incorporated into the Nobility of Luxembourg with the title Prince de Bourbon de Parme. The same did happen to the four children of Carlos Hugo de Bourbon, Duke of Parma: they were incorporated into the Netherlands Nobility, also with the title Prince (Princesse) de Bourbon de Parme.

So there are factually three Bourbon-Parmas:

1
The Royal House of Bourbon-Parma.

2
The noble family De Bourbon de Parme with the title of prince (princesse) and the prefix Altesse Royale (Luxembourg) = the descendants in the patrilineal lineage of Félix de Bourbon, Prince de Parme.

R
The noble family De Bourbon de Parme with the title prins (prinses) and the prefix Koninklijke Hoogheid (the Netherlands) = the descendants in the patrilineal lineage of Carlos Hugo de Bourbon, Duke of Parma.

All three with an own jurisdiction. The Duke of Parma has no say over the noble namesakes in Luxembourg and the Netherlands since they derive their nobility from a Letters of Patent issued by the Luxembourgian resp. Dutch Crown and fall under the rules of these systems of Nobility. We have seen this with his fruitless objection against the title prins de Bourbon de Parme for his extramarital son. As Head of the Royal House of Bourbon-Parma he could object, but the Dutch justice stated that his son, despite not being born in a marriage, has the right to have his father's Dutch noble title, surname and prefix as the rules in the Nobility of the Netherlands allow this.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bourbon-parma


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Prince Jaime (1972-) and Princess Viktória (1982-) of Bourbon-Parma CountessofLuxembourg Royal Families of Italy 221 11-18-2020 03:33 AM
Princess Maria-Carolina of Bourbon-Parma (1974- ) and Albert Brenninkmeijer Marengo Royal Families of Italy 81 08-22-2016 03:05 PM
HRH Duke Carlos Hugo (1930-2010) and the Royal House of Bourbon-Parma morgaine Royal Families of Italy 164 07-31-2016 05:00 PM
Princess Irene of The Netherlands & Prince Carlos-Hugo of Bourbon-Parma: Apr 29, 1964 Marengo Royal Weddings 47 09-03-2014 02:33 AM
Prince Carlos of Bourbon-Parma [now Duke of Parma] (1970- ) (2005 - April 2010) Alexandria Royal Families of Italy 25 10-20-2010 07:45 AM




Popular Tags
abdication abu dhabi american history anastasia anastasia once upon a time ancestry baby names baptism biography british royal family brownbitcoinqueen buckingham palace countess of snowdon cpr doge of venice dubai duchess of sussex duke of cambridge duke of sussex elizabeth ii facts family life family tree fashion and style games george vi gradenigo history hochberg hypothetical monarchs imperial household intro italian royal family jacobite japan jewellery kids movie list of rulers luxembourg mountbatten names nepalese royal jewels plantinum jubilee pless prince constantijn prince dimitri prince harry princess alexia (2005 -) princess catharina-amalia princess chulabhorn walailak princess eugenie princess ribha queen louise queen mathilde queen maxima random facts resusci anne royal dress-ups royal jewels royal marriage royal re-enactments. royalty of taiwan royal wedding royal wedding gown serbian royal family snowdon thai royal family uae customs videos wittelsbach


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:11 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2021
Jelsoft Enterprises
×