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Old 06-24-2020, 02:04 PM
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Felix, Louis and Sébastien are also Princes of bourbon of Parme and Princess Alexandra is also Princess of Bourbon of Parme.
That is why I have this doubt about Prince Charles, because he is a Prince of Luxembourg, unlike the cousins who are Princes of Nassau.
I'm also a bit curious but I think Prince of Bourbon-Parma is only for the descendants of the Grand Duke and the heir of the Grand Duchy.

Correct me if I'm wrong because Prince Jean and Prince Guillame's children are just Prince/Princess of Nassau.
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Old 06-24-2020, 02:17 PM
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I'm also a bit curious but I think Prince of Bourbon-Parma is only for the descendants of the Grand Duke and the heir of the Grand Duchy.

Correct me if I'm wrong because Prince Jean and Prince Guillame's children are just Prince/Princess of Nassau.
Yes only the sons of the Grand Duke and grand duke heir have the title of prince of Bourbon-Parma. That's why I asked if Prince Charles has that title.
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Yes only the sons of the Grand Duke and grand duke heir have the title of prince of Bourbon-Parma. That's why I asked if Prince Charles has that title.
In 1995 Grand-Duke Jean issued a Decree in which the name of the House and the surname of the grand-ducal family was established: Nassau.

The same Decree established that the members of the grand-ducal family are Prince (Princesse) de Luxembourg and Prince (Princesse) de Nassau with the prefix HRH.

No longer the title Prince (Princesse) de Bourbon-Parma. With this the HRH was no longer derived from the House of Bourbon-Parma but from the House of Luxembourg itself.

In 2006 Grand-Duke Henri modified the Decree of 1995: the surname is not Nassau but de Nassau.

So far so good. After this the title Prince de Bourbon-Parma popped up again for children of a Grand-Duke and children of a Hereditary Grand-Duke. But in daily practice only the Grand-Duke and the Hereditary Grand-Duke are connected with this title.

Note that Félix de Bourbon, Prince de Parme was incorporated into the Nobility of Luxembourg with the title Prince de Bourbon de Parme. The same did happen to the four children of Carlos Hugo de Bourbon, Duke of Parma: they were incorporated into the Netherlands Nobility, also with the title Prince (Princesse) de Bourbon de Parme.

So there are factually three Bourbon-Parmas:

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The Royal House of Bourbon-Parma.

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The noble family De Bourbon de Parme with the title of prince (princesse) and the prefix Altesse Royale (Luxembourg) = the descendants in the patrilineal lineage of Félix de Bourbon, Prince de Parme.

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The noble family De Bourbon de Parme with the title prins (prinses) and the prefix Koninklijke Hoogheid (the Netherlands) = the descendants in the patrilineal lineage of Carlos Hugo de Bourbon, Duke of Parma.

All three with an own jurisdiction. The Duke of Parma has no say over the noble namesakes in Luxembourg and the Netherlands since they derive their nobility from a Letters of Patent issued by the Luxembourgian resp. Dutch Crown and fall under the rules of these systems of Nobility. We have seen this with his fruitless objection against the title prins de Bourbon de Parme for his extramarital son. As Head of the Royal House of Bourbon-Parma he could object, but the Dutch justice stated that his son, despite not being born in a marriage, has the right to have his father's Dutch noble title, surname and prefix as the rules in the Nobility of the Netherlands allow this.
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