Royal Cyphers, Coronets, Arms and Monograms

[Her_Majesty]

Originally Posted by lumutqueen

My favourite monograms have to be those belonging to the Danish royal family. The fact that they are designed by Queen M makes them more special.

M II already designed the new Norwegian monograms, e.g. Ingrid Alexandra's.

[lillepingo]

Do the Spanish royal family have monograms?

[Jacknch]

Originally Posted by RoyalistRiley

Do British Royals apart from HM the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh have monograms? I know that most members have their own arms based on the Royal arms and the Prince of Wales gets to use the 3 feathers sign.

The Scandinavian houses seem to have the most monograms and use them more widley.

I do not think that monograms in the British Royal Family are as carefully thought out or properly designed in the same way as the Scandinavian Royal Families. The lettering used for the monograms of Diana, Princess of Wales, Princes William and Prince Harry appear to be standard typeface/lettering available from most stationery designers. Basically, if you see a mongram with a "script" type letter and a crown on top you can bet it belongs to British Royalty!! The Duchess of Cornwall has I think a kind of floral/scroll design encircling her initial C, and I've seen this style before. Perhaps we British place more importance on Coats of Arms?

BTW, I think the most dramatic monogram belongs to Prince Joachim of Denmark - the stylized "J" with the crown placed in that position is quite unusual!

[CdNum]

Hi,

Do you know what is this emblem ? If yes, your comment will be very appreciate.

It is a medal or Love Token with an emblem and i don't know what it is. Maybe a F or E with a C. It seems to have something like a crown on top of F or E. Date is somewhere 1850-1900.

Thank's for your comments.

[Lumutqueen]

How interestring.
It has the words Victoria and Canada stamped on it.
But i can't read the third word.

[CdNum]

Hi,

I add another picture to have a better look of this Love Token or medal. Dei Gratia Regina...

Thanks.

[wbenson]

Is it possible that it's an old Canadian coin that's been altered? (Something like a "hobo nickel"?) Unfortunately that wouldn't help to identify what the logo is, though.

[SLV]

Does anyone know what Queen Elizabeth's monogram looked like before she became queen?
She and Prince Philip very likely had one together, right?

[Hereditary Thane]

The most stylish monograms I have seen are indeed Scandinavian; I include with them the monograms of the Romanian royal family, which all take the form of a cross using the initial at north, south, east and west. I am sorry I do not have pictures to illustrate them.

Interestingly (for me) while clearing out a lumber room I cam across old magazines from the Victorian era; I saw in the personal classifieds of one 1860s publication several invitations to "exchange" monograms. Apparently they were printed and bought as one would collect picture post cards. One doesn't have to be royal or noble to have a monogram, though I assume it would be frowned upon if a commoner or non-armiger capped it with a coronet.

[LuxEtVeritas]

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and would first like to say hello! I'm having a bit of trouble with identifying a Russian imperial monogram- it's not like any I have seen before. I collect imperial antiques and this is my third Russian goblet (along with a Nicholas II piece and a Catherine the Great tumbler). Unfortunately, this one is still eluding me. Any help would be most appreciated!

I have inserted two images for your viewing.
Thank you in advance!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/a...itBLuNW8-1.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/a...VkqBLuNWp5.jpg

[Vasillisos Markos]

Welcome to the forums!

Could the second one be Grand Duchess Marie's cypher? It seems the Tsar's daughters had their first initial entwined or placed between what appears to be the Roman "H" which I believe is "N" for Nicholas in the Cyrillic alphabet

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/a...itBLuNW8-1.jpg

This one appears to be the central element of the Russian Imperial Coat of Arms

[LuxEtVeritas]

Thank you for the help! I'm not entirely sure if it could be the Grand Duchess Marie's. Do you perhaps have a picture of it (I can't find one).

Thanks again!

[Vasillisos Markos]

Here is a link to Marie's cypher. You can see the basic style is similar, a "M" between the "H" but the font is different. Do you have an age of the goblet? I believe there was a Grand Duchess Maria who was the daughter of Nicholas I.

Daughter of Nicholas II - Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna, Presentation Egg c.1915

[Persen]

Does any body knows if Prs. Caroline & Pr. Ernst-August of Hannover has a common monogram, and if... how does it looks like?

[Nathalie Cox]

Anyone imagine how Charlene's monogram will look like? I mean, is there a possibility that it might look like Princess Caroline's? As they both have names starting with a C, Charlene's will be similar to Caroline's?

[dznsln]

Hi, a forum admin pointed me here, so I hope you can help me! I recently purchased a box lot of antique linens at auction. One napkin appears to have a royal monogram; I've shown it in my first attached pics. (Handsewn monogram with crown, perhaps a VF and the number 24 below; bull's head and sphinx woven into the fabric) In case it helps, there were two other sets of napkins in the same lot with the phrase "Per aspera ad astra" and a crown with other figures woven on them. A sample of those two sets is shown in my last two pics.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

Susan

[Laura]

This is the coat of arms of the Grand Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (northern Germany), but I don't recognize the monogram. As for the F in the monogram, there were many Grand Dukes named Friedrich Franz...

[dznsln]

Laura, thanks for the info. I should note that it's only an assumption that the monogram is connected to the two sets w/ the coat of arms. They were in the same estate, but I notice that the monogrammed napkin has a bull's head and sphinx rather than a lion and sphinx like the coat of arms. That's probably significant???

Perhaps someone else knows another piece of the puzzle...

Just realized the coat of arms has a bull after all -- rather than a lion. It was hard to see at first. ...So most likely all from the same place just not sure who the monogram belongs to.

[Laura]

dznsln, it seems to me that what you have on the napkin is not a sphinx but a heraldic griffin... And as far as I know, there's no lion head on the shield ofMecklembourg-Schwerin, see below:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...g-Schwerin.png
File:Armoiries Mecklembourg-Schwerin.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See the coat of arms' description here:
Mecklenburg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[dznsln]

Laura, thanks for the correction. This is all new to me -- obviously! ...Now if I can just figure out the monogram. :-)