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Old 03-01-2021, 08:33 AM
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From the BBC and Sky News on the Duke's transfer to St Bartholomew's Hospital in London.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56241353

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-ph...ction-12232604
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Old 03-01-2021, 10:33 AM
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I wish him the very best of care.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:01 AM
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St Bart's is one of the best-known hospitals in the country. It's one of the top places for treating heart problems, so it makes sense that they're saying he's got a heart condition, but that certainly sounds a lot more worrying than a bladder infection.
It's an NHS Hospital, though, so wouldn't the risk of Covid be higher there? They certainly wouldn't have moved Philip there unless it was absolutely necessary. I know he's had at least one Covid 'jab', but that probably doesn't fully protect him.

He might have had an infection to start out with and it's affected his heart. The problem is that in very elderly people like Philip, the body loses its ability to repair itself, even with the best treatment. I read an article that said no one really dies of 'old age,' they simply die of conditions their body has lost the ability to recover from.

I hope he gets well again, but being in the hospital for this long at his age doesn't look good.

Also, I'm not anti-vaccines, but I'm wondering if the vaccine had an effect on his body as well. Being 99 and getting a vaccine is not the same as being 70 or even 80 and getting it.

Edited: Watched the video and it does seem he may have been wheeled out in a wheelchair but then clearly walked into the ambulance on his own, which is a good sign. But do wish the media would give royals privacy at times like these!
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:18 AM
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He might have had an infection to start out with and it's affected his heart. The problem is that in very elderly people like Philip, the body loses its ability to repair itself, even with the best treatment. I read an article that said no one really dies of 'old age,' they simply die of conditions their body has lost the ability to recover from.
I agree. He’s got access to the best of the best but at the end of the day, he is a 99 year old man. There’s only so much medicine and care can do for him, even the best ones.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:49 AM
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The only reason to keep him in the hospital is because the doctors believe that additional treatment will add to Philip's longevity and/or quality of life. However, as others have noted, his body is losing the ability to recover. My prayers are with him and his family, particularly the Queen.
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St Bart's is one of the best-known hospitals in the country. It's one of the top places for treating heart problems, so it makes sense that they're saying he's got a heart condition, but that certainly sounds a lot more worrying than a bladder infection.
Yes it certainly is.


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Old 03-01-2021, 12:47 PM
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As I think has been said before, sending him home could mean that he was better. Or that he was not fine at all. Same token — keeping him in the hospital, even transferring hospitals, could be worrying. Or it could mean that they think there is something that they can do.

He's up and mobile. That's certainly not too bad for a guy who's been in the hospital for almost two weeks.
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Old 03-01-2021, 01:52 PM
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It seems likely that his heart condition could be one of 2 things :
- another blocked artery, requiring a new stent, or replacement of the old one
- an irregular heartbeat (atrial fibrillation) perhaps precipitated by the infection (which we assume is a bladder infection, although we have not been told that) which requires monitoring, or treatment which could not be provided at King Edward VII

The fact that treatment is ongoing should be seen as an encouraging sign.
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I take two positive points:

-he is still being treated suggesting they believe they can help him get better
-moving him to a specialist hospital suggests they feel he could recover from a heart issue
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Also, I'm not anti-vaccines, but I'm wondering if the vaccine had an effect on his body as well. Being 99 and getting a vaccine is not the same as being 70 or even 80 and getting it.



Very unlikely. He had his jab a long time ago and side effects, if any, normally manifest shortly after you take it.


It is possible that the infection may have affected the heart. The mother of a relative of mine had a digestive tract infection and ended up developing pericarditis.
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Old 03-01-2021, 02:32 PM
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Didn't he have his vaccination several weeks before being taken into the hospital? If the vaccine was the cause, I (in my non-medical mind) would think that there would have been symptomes earlier than this.
But who knows, he may have been walking around feeling out of sorts for weeks. Prince Philip isn't the kind of person to go to a doctor after one cough.
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It's an NHS Hospital, though, so wouldn't the risk of Covid be higher there? They certainly wouldn't have moved Philip there unless it was absolutely necessary. I know he's had at least one Covid 'jab', but that probably doesn't fully protect him.

He might have had an infection to start out with and it's affected his heart. The problem is that in very elderly people like Philip, the body loses its ability to repair itself, even with the best treatment. I read an article that said no one really dies of 'old age,' they simply die of conditions their body has lost the ability to recover from.

I hope he gets well again, but being in the hospital for this long at his age doesn't look good.

Also, I'm not anti-vaccines, but I'm wondering if the vaccine had an effect on his body as well. Being 99 and getting a vaccine is not the same as being 70 or even 80 and getting it.

Edited: Watched the video and it does seem he may have been wheeled out in a wheelchair but then clearly walked into the ambulance on his own, which is a good sign. But do wish the media would give royals privacy at times like these!
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Old 03-01-2021, 03:19 PM
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I really don’t think it is helpful to speculate that having the COVID vaccine could in anyway have contributed to the current situation.
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Being moved to another hospital means he is stable and that there are further treatment options, those are both good things.

It’s really shameful how the press and bystanders can’t give him privacy to exit the hospital.
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Old 03-01-2021, 03:54 PM
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We know Philip has a history of infections so it seems rather a (unfounded) leap to suggest somehow its to do with the vaccine. I also doubt the Queen would make a point of encouraging people to get a vaccine if it was possibly why her husband was in hospital.
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Old 03-01-2021, 04:44 PM
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I would wish all speculations about his actual state of health will calm down now. He is in hospital, he gets help and that matters. I guess that Queen Elizabeth is calling him daily and the whole family is informed. Someday he will leave hospital and return to the queen.
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:53 PM
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Of course all our thoughts and prayers are with Prince Philip and with his family. Certainly he is getting the best of care, though his great age may be against him. He's a fighter though.

However it seems the mood is changing in the last few hours.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...mpression=true
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I think he must receive the best care. But he is 99 ! I fear for him.
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Old 03-01-2021, 07:50 PM
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Sadly even if he recovers from this, I think this is the start of the end.

My guess is Artrial Fibrillation due to whatever infection he has. Not that uncommon in the aged
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Let's stick to the known facts about Prince Philip's current condition, and not start guessing. Further speculative posts will be removed.
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