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06-03-2015, 04:50 AM
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Do any of you so down on Froilan have sons and actually know what they get up to? Most of those so called incidents are just the usual stuff of boyhood, a tantrum as a 5 year, pulling a face while on the phone, roughhousing with a cousin that got out of control. all normal stuff of boyhood. The only one that really is of concern is the recent racist incident. He is 16 now and should behave better. My real concern with that incident is not so much the racist insult but rather the implied arrogance and feeling of superiority and entitlement of the ' i'm fourth in line to the throne' .
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06-03-2015, 09:27 AM
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It is all normal adolescent behaviour. Boys will loose wild hairs and settle down. It is the eternal story. Nothing to be so upset about.
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06-03-2015, 09:47 AM
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I can't help feeling sorry for him. His father suffered a stroke that changed his character when he was young, his parents are divorced, his whole family is constantly under scrutiny. He may enjoy everything that goes with wealth, that had never and will never bring automatically psychological stability. Nearly all teenagers have rebellious moments, but not everyone has his stupid moments in the paper headlines. Being a teenager and having every rebellious move on the newspapers headlines is surely not a position I envy. I wish the newspapers would let alone, it would be much better for him than being the main focus of educational discussions.
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06-03-2015, 09:51 AM
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Hear! Hear! Many adolescents will do stupid things. Smoking weed, get very drunk in a weekend, engage in a brawl somewhere when tensions go high, use inappropriate words or even swearing. None of them will make the headlines. And all this while Felipe even is no Prince at all.
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06-03-2015, 09:56 AM
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I would add that I don't regard all these incidents as not worthy to be dealt with. They are to be dealt with appropriately to help this young boy to become a fine man. But privately, with people knowing him and able to help him, not by the whole country nor the whole royal watchers community.
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06-03-2015, 08:44 PM
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I would add that I don't regard all these incidents as not worthy to be dealt with. They are to be dealt with appropriately to help this young boy to become a fine man. But privately, with people knowing him and able to help him, not by the whole country nor the whole royal watchers community.
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exactly the way it should be handled.
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06-03-2015, 10:23 PM
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He may just be a spoiled rich kid who when he can't get his way throws a tantrum. As for him failing he may just not like school and not put any effort in to pass perhaps he wants to go another route.
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I fail to see how he used his money, as the title of the article describes, to misbehave. Although his comments were appaling I think it is sad that the press uses the story for another article about 'spoiled rich kid' that people adore, while vilifying an underage boy. This should have been dealt with privately.
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06-12-2015, 01:05 AM
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Forgive me if this is the wrong thread, and I know this is two weeks old, but I didn't see anything on the Spanish forum about this incident. Thoughts?
I was really appalled. It reminded me of the kind of arrogant, entitled behavior exhibited by some other members of the family.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...heme-park.html
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06-12-2015, 01:08 AM
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Felipe Juan Froilán & Victoria Federica de Marichalar, News Part 2: June 2007 -
I think this behavior was appalling. This is no boys being boys thing, this sounds like an absolutely toxic level of privilege and total lack of consideration for others. He's 16 and if he doesn't know better then to behave that way, something's gone very wrong.
And this happened in a public space in front of witnesses where there was no expectation of privacy, so I'm glad he's being held accountable in the press
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06-12-2015, 01:37 AM
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A spoiled young adolescent......yes. What I would like to do is give Froilan a swift kick in the pants, but I think he hasn't had anyone actually say the word "no" to him all his life. Yes, his parents divorced and I'm sure it was rough for him and his sister and I have the feeling both children were indulged in by both parents to make up for the situation. Yes, Jaime had a stroke, but he appears to be doing well for the last several years, Froilan needs tough guidance and yes, even if he's doing poorly in school. We don't know if it's truly being unable to understand and perform his academic work or if he just doesn't give a rip and uses it to gain attention. I hate to say it and brand Froilan, but I can foresee him as being continually in trouble all his life for one reason or another.
Perhaps the military would be good for him. A military school other than in England or the US where he isn't catered too and has to learn discipline.
The trouble is, a young man has to have good academic qualifications to enter. I just see how much the military helped the Wales brothers. However, on another Royal MB, an interview was posted by Elena and she stated both children were doing well and no problems. Time will tell.
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06-12-2015, 06:23 AM
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Forgive me if this is the wrong thread, and I know this is two weeks old, but I didn't see anything on the Spanish forum about this incident. Thoughts?
I was really appalled. It reminded me of the kind of arrogant, entitled behavior exhibited by some other members of the family.
Spain prince in racist rant at Madrid theme park - Telegraph
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Yes, it was already posted... i don't know if I found it in the general news... a disgraceful incident indeed...
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Forgive me if this is the wrong thread, and I know this is two weeks old, but I didn't see anything on the Spanish forum about this incident. Thoughts?
I was really appalled. It reminded me of the kind of arrogant, entitled behavior exhibited by some other members of the family.
Spain prince in racist rant at Madrid theme park - Telegraph
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This incident has been discussed for over two pages on this thread now?
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06-12-2015, 03:19 PM
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This incident has been discussed for over two pages on this thread now?
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I think the message you were quoting was originally posted in another thread but moved here later (which creates a bit of a weird effect  )
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06-12-2015, 03:36 PM
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Thanks it did sound weird 
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And here I thought to myself, oh no, what's he done now!
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