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But we're not talking about Israel or France, we're talking about Spain and it's archaic undemocratic laws.
But we're not talking about Israel or France, we're talking about Spain and it's archaic undemocratic laws.
Name me one European country that employs lese-majeste laws.
Human rights
Article 12
Nobody will be an object of arbitrary interferences in his private life, his family, his domicile or his correspondence, not from assaults to his honor or to his reputation. Every person has right to the protection of the law against such interferences or assaults.
Article 19
Everything individual has right to the freedom of opinion and of expression; this right includes of not being bothered because of his opinions, of investigating and receiving information and opinions, and of spreading them, without limitation of borders, for any way of expression.
This man would have to admit his errors and not to justify what did saying now that is Tom Cruise; when one sees clearly that they are the princes.
Thanks for the article. So it is saying that Casa Real did not request the judicial hearing...
I'm sort of about it. I somehow can't see The Princes themselves getting 'worked up' over the cartoon/writing because at the end of the day it is just a cartoon. Surely they would expect things like this to happen someday?
This makes me think that perhaps The Royal family didn't order the ban to happen, but since it is the law, it happened anyway.
I don't know..
Freedom is speech is really important for everyone but I think that it is just as important to protect the freedom and right of people to dignity and from slander, harrassment and lies
And as far as this magazine this seems to cross a line I understand it's just a cartoon and it's not really them but still I believe there definitely needs to be a line drawn somewhere. This magazine could have still had this same caricature without making it about their royalty. I understand that would not have been as eye catching but still it comes down to dignity. Doesn't anyone have dignity and respect for others anymore. I applaud the government for seizing the magazines. Just because they are public figures doesn't mean they are fair game to be used to make a distasteful point about the birth rate.
Thanks for the article. So it is saying that Casa Real did not request the judicial hearing...
I'm sort of about it. I somehow can't see The Princes themselves getting 'worked up' over the cartoon/writing because at the end of the day it is just a cartoon. Surely they would expect things like this to happen someday?
This makes me think that perhaps The Royal family didn't order the ban to happen, but since it is the law, it happened anyway.
I don't know..
Name me one European country that employs lese-majeste laws.
I don't think that those who like the monarchy are happy with this situation, which is more likely to do harm than good to the way monarchy is perceived in Spain.
As a consequence of this banning everybody has seen the cartoon and the magazine has got free advertising.
Moreover, if it is true that the measure was taken without regard to the condition of royals of the caracters in the cartoon, there is a comparative offence for those other public persons that have been depicted in the magazine in similar situations. For example, on 20minutos.es you can see a series of covers that can be much more outreageous than this one, for instance the cover entitled "Aznar going crazy like a ****ing goat", in which we see the nude character of former Prime Minister wearing cowboy boots and "attacking" his wife from behind. Now Aznar and wife may wonder why that issue of El Jueves was not banned.
The good side is that it sets the limit for the future, otherwise the worse is still to come. It looked like the cartoonist was a bit scared. He was lying that the drawing was actually Tom Cruise and Katie Holms. Obviously it looks nothing like Tom and Katie.
Well, the whole thing is supposed to be / hides behind satire and that's the way his answer should be looked at. He's not scared but continues with what he does the whole day, ridiculing people. Why should he be scared? The ban makes it an even bigger success for the mag and I doubt there will be a limit for the future. They might not do something like that every week but in gerenal the whole thing won't turn this kind of press into deep thinkers who'll reflect on what might hurt the princes before they publish something. And if the courts have to decide again, so what?
I bet many people who have been indifferent before are now annoyed because of the ban and it somehow reflects on the monarchy / the princes although they are only spectators.
I agree with you the satirist isn't scared he is getting more than he ever probably dreamed of with all the attention this has gotten. And a magazine has now more publicity than it ever had so it is a win for them. The one that is not going to fair well are the royals in this. I know that they had nothing to do with the ban but if you don't read and know the rules people will think it is their fault. It simply gives those who don't like the princess and the royals in general more to complain and blame them for.
Well I believe just the opposite. It sets a precedent that this type of tastless humor concerning public figures will not be tolerated. These are much more then just the Prince and Princess of Spain. These are human beings, this a mother and a father, a sister, a brother, a aunt, a uncle, etc. Why couldn't the magazine had used just regular people to depict this? They could have chosen that route but they went for the shock value instead!