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Old 11-16-2005, 05:27 AM
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The worm gets boiled alive - and more disgusting is that in the Indian silk industry, little kids no more than 6 or 7 are burning themselves dipping the worms in the scalding water and going blind from the lye..
I didn't know about boilling the silk worm, as I know so far silk producer just takes the silk produced by the worm to make threads for fabric and clothes. I am not a very big fan of silk anyway. I feel very sorry for those kids labour:(.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:14 AM
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I really think this is an inappropriate thread for this discussion, that is why I started the animal rights thread.

I will continue the conversation there, but to start, yes the silkworms are inhumanely killed after they are no longer useful in terms of production.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:47 AM
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I think that we have the right to adore and abhor the things we want, I mean - when you hit furriers in the wallets, that's when you make a difference. Money's what it boils down to.
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That's the point she was trying to make. I adore the hair my friend has got, but I wouldn't kill her to get it to make a wig. Humans are so arrogant to believe that because it's something they want, it is ok to continue making other creatures suffer.
If we are unable to feel compassion for defenceless animals, what hope is there for our own species?
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:55 AM
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like astrid a lot but she looks to me like she is dressed up as a squirrel
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Old 11-16-2005, 12:08 PM
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http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...6&d=1132065132

like astrid a lot but she looks to me like she is dressed up as a squirrel
Funny! But, sorry, I can't see the squirrel comparisons!
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:14 PM
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If your against fur dont post hear. Fur is a personal decision. Humans and animals are different. You dont treat each other the same or compare. If you dont like fur dont wear it or buy it. But let others in peace. It is a personal choice.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:19 PM
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i think fur is nice.
We as a human race wouldnt have been able to survive the ice age without it!
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:50 PM
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I have a fur and I wear it. I spent a lot of money on it and I love it and will have it forever. You only need one. I'm not Kimora Lee Simmons with her 500 $12K Hermes bags and 100+ furs. I think excessive fur buying is no different than excessive animal activism - EXCESSIVE.

I think that we have the right to adore and abhor the things we want, but it drives me crazy when people become so dogmatic about it. I am not that into JLo, but when McCartney's wife went there with her PETA duds and made a huge hullaballoo, it was too excessive. If you want to make a statement, don't buy fur. I mean - when you hit furriers in the wallets, that's when you make a difference. Money's what it boils down to.

Even though we have synthetics, don't forget they are mainly produced overseas in sweatshops with little regulation. Also, it always struck me funny that no animal rights activist has ever attacked silk production. The worm gets boiled alive - and more disgusting is that in the Indian silk industry, little kids no more than 6 or 7 are burning themselves dipping the worms in the scalding water and going blind from the lye. There are a lot of tragedies out there like 3rd world pharmaceutical testing, white slave trading, war, famine, disease - fur seems quite inconsequential on the scale of things.
oh dulce elena, you are so right in many things but... let's go by parts :)
i guess some more people care about "fur animals" rather than worms as they look much more alike to us and people can feel indentified in some way. worms are miles away from human beings. :) however, if we talk about those kinds you mention (i had no idea about the silk process) it really is bad, yes.
i don't think i need one either. feel warm with any kind of synthetic clothing, and elegance won't come because of having the biggest and nicest fur coat, it's some kind of inner property of each one. there are women who can look great in jeans while others just need a fur coat to look (pseudo)elegant...
anyway... getting on topic, don't think even the beautifulness of having one will sucumbe me. my mum has one and we are all the time arguing about it :)

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There are a lot of tragedies out there like 3rd world pharmaceutical testing, white slave trading, war, famine, disease - fur seems quite inconsequential on the scale of things
you are so true but i guess some people are more conmotioned about some things than others. i would say animals catch my attention rather than the hunger in the world. after all, something to solve that can be done if the richest countries give the 1% of their money, and nobody seems to want to be bother doing that. other thing is killing an animal in the cruelest way possible for such a vanal thing as a fur.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:02 AM
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Some of it is a generational thing. Our grandmothers' generation wore fur and stoles made from all kinds of pelts at affordable prices to many women. It was perfectly acceptable to them.

I myself have a waist length fur I received for Christmas and love it and will continue to wear it. That is my choice.

However, if walking down Michigan Avenue in Chicago and Heather McCartney, or some other PETA activist, throws paint on it.....you bet you boopy not only would I kick their backsides in, I would prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

We should ALL respect each other's choices...because as I have mentioned before...I have noticed those who are against it due to animal rights are usually pro-you know what, procedures on females, and they don't see anything wrong with that....if you know what I mean....

In that respect, you can't have both my dears...
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Please note that fur is not ripped off live animals any more than steak is cut out from the side of a live cow.
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Old 11-17-2005, 02:42 AM
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I appreciate not everyone is going to approve of Royals wearing fur but there are many of us who adore the traditional elegance of real fur on our beloved Royal ladies. But I don't understand why people feel the need to bombard this thread with anti fur propaganda.
You won't change our minds... Fur is in vogue and it looks wonderful on our Royals!
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:00 AM
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I appreciate not everyone is going to approve of Royals wearing fur but there are many of us who adore the traditional elegance of real fur on our beloved Royal ladies. But I don't understand why people feel the need to bombard this thread with anti fur propaganda.
You won't change our minds... Fur is in vogue and it looks wonderful on our Royals!
I'm not trying to stop you wearing or admiring fur!
I just don't appreciate untrue comments and ideas being perpetrated in this thread in defence of your beliefs.

And, for the record, I haven't started posting anything here, I'm only responding to false statements.

I will only post here when I think false comments concerning animal rights are said.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:00 AM
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I'm not trying to stop you wearing or admiring fur!
I just don't appreciate untrue comments and ideas being perpetrated in this thread in defence of your beliefs.

And, for the record, I haven't started posting anything here, I'm only responding to false statements.

I will only post here when I think false comments concerning animal rights are said.
I think we shld just respect each others view and get back to the topic here which is simply enjoying pictures of royals wearing fur!

Personally, i think if a person doesn't agree with this fur business, then don't view this thread!
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:11 AM
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I think we shld just respect each others view and get back to the topic here which is simply enjoying pictures of royals wearing fur!

Personally, i think if a person doesn't agree with this fur business, then don't view this thread!
Okay, okay! I'm sorry for annoying anyone, and all of you can admire, wear, and comment on fur as much as you want to.

ALL of you can have this thread, I'm never going to post here again, regardless of what is said here.
I'll say my piece in my own thread, that is why I started it after all.:)

Out of respect for the perspective and meaning of this thread, I will remove all of my animal rights posts here.
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Old 04-10-2006, 05:44 AM
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Does anybody know if the bolero wore by Princess Alexandra is a real fur or the faux one? http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...0&d=1143717283
Many posters gave their comments about it, make me belief that it is a areal fur but I don't find article or source which has said about the real material of her bolero (Can some one help?) http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-a-8431-9.html
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:13 AM
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Oh my, the royal ladies all look so good in fur. I am so going to buy myself a mink coat! Princess Michael looks absolutely regal and imperial! She should be the next Tsarina of Russia
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:29 PM
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I can't help but wonder how many dead animals made up each 'fashion' outfit!
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:38 PM
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Gorgeous photos

Mary's fur in particular was just scrumptious.

Love seeing it, love wearing it, love owning it.
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Fabulous furs on show in Norway. There's just nothing like it and Queen Silvia's coat - just wow. You certainly don't get that lush look from faux fur.
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