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08-19-2011, 03:22 AM
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I first heard of Catherine de Medici from reading Jean Plaidy's historic three novels about her. Although they are fictional, they are well researched and I can remember thoroughly enjoying them. She has always seemed to me to be a fascinating woman who was let down by the few people she loved & trusted. I would be interested to know if anyone can recommend a biography that presents an objective view of her.
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I can recommend the book discussed in this thread, "Catherine de Medici: A Biography" by Leonie Frieda, I found it quite obective and informative.
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I always associate her with the massacre during the St. Bartholemew's massacre.
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08-19-2011, 03:39 AM
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She is also attributed to have designed a more practical variant of the sidesaddle for women: Sidesaddle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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08-26-2011, 06:36 AM
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I can recommend the book discussed in this thread, "Catherine de Medici: A Biography" by Leonie Frieda, I found it quite obective and informative.
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One of my favourites!
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08-26-2011, 06:37 AM
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I always associate her with the massacre during the St. Bartholemew's massacre.
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History hasn't been too kind to Catherine,her name will always be associated with the brutal Massacre,whilst the men involved have gotten off lightly.
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08-26-2011, 10:09 AM
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It's interesting how Catherine de' Medici grew from being a (relatively) insignificant, parvenu royal into the dominating force behind European politics and religion through twists of fate. It was a great coup that Catherine could marry into the old and illustrious Valois royal family given that the Medicis, though rich and powerful, were upstarts in royal circles. She was married to the second son the Duke of Orleans and never expected to be the mother of a future king, much less three. Then the Dauphin died and she and Henri were the new heirs. She had little influence in court and wasn't expected to be regent, but Henri II died young in an accident and as Queen Mother to two successive child kings, she rose to prominence.
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08-26-2011, 01:43 PM
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Catherine's story is most interesting,orphaned just a few weeks after her birth.
Her French noble mother, Madeleine de la Tour d'Auvergne died on April 28th,her Florentine father, Lorenzo II de' Medicis died on May 4th.
Poor Catherine!
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10-12-2011, 05:13 AM
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What 3 books did Jean write on Catherine? I always thought she wrote English fiction, but after reading her English books I would like to read what she has to say on Catherine. Has anyone read The Confessions of Catherine de Medici.
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10-12-2011, 05:35 AM
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What 3 books did Jean write on Catherine? I always thought she wrote English fiction, but after reading her English books I would like to read what she has to say on Catherine. Has anyone read The Confessions of Catherine de Medici.
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The Medici Trilogy,I have Madame Serpent somewhere.
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10-12-2011, 04:19 PM
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Confessions of Catherine de Medici: Book Trailer
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January 5th,1589 -Death of Catherine de Médicis at the Royal Chateau de Blois in France.
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Was she a witch ? there is lots of evidence that
she was heavily into witchcraft and the occult.
Did her ancestry go back to Spain ?
The Spaniards dominated much of Italy for a while,
just as they also ruled in Holland
and .... after the execution of Mary Queen of Scots
they determined to take over that Protestant upstart England and a year after her execution they sailed off on the Spanish Armada .
Wasnt the Sun King Louis 14th of Spanish ancestry too ?
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Wasnt the Sun King Louis 14th of Spanish ancestry too ?
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His mother Anne d'Autriche and his grandmother on his father's side Marie de Medici were both descendents of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain via the Philip of Austria/Habsburg-Juana of Aragon and Castile-marriage.
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01-06-2012, 05:51 AM
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Was she a witch ? there is lots of evidence that
she was heavily into witchcraft and the occult.
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It was quite common with interest in the occult in the 16th century, queen Elizabeth of England was also interested in the occult, John Dee was one of her consultants, so that an interest in occult matters then didn't make anyone a witch.
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As far as I know the Medici family (father) is of genuinely Italian origin and the House of La Tour D'Auvergne (mother) French, so no direct ties to Spain.
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Was she a witch ? there is lots of evidence that
she was heavily into witchcraft and the occult.
Did her ancestry go back to Spain ?
The Spaniards dominated much of Italy for a while,
just as they also ruled in Holland
and .... after the execution of Mary Queen of Scots
they determined to take over that Protestant upstart England and a year after her execution they sailed off on the Spanish Armada .
Wasnt the Sun King Louis 14th of Spanish ancestry too ?
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Catherine wasn't a 'witch' in my opinion but was deeply interested in the occult,her patronage of the seer,Michel de Nostradamus is well documented.
Her paternal ancestry was from the Medici Family & the Italian nobility.Her maternal ancestry was French,her mother was related to the then Ducal House of Bourbon.
To the best of my knowledge Catherine had no Spanish ancestry,her daughter Elisabéth de Valois did marry Philip II of Spain in 1559.
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Was she a witch ? there is lots of evidence that
she was heavily into witchcraft and the occult.
Did her ancestry go back to Spain ?
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The Medici's are Florentine-Family - not Spanish.
As there are no such things witches in the world .. of course she wasn't one  .
And even in the eyes of her time she wasn't one. Being interestet in the occult was then very 'fashanable' look at Lady Di - also she took astrologist in her confidenz and trust ... so was she a witch too by your reconing?
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Very interesting! I agree that she had a very hard life, especially childhood, and it's very sad that she pretty much outlived her sons. Her bashing of her daughter is a bit much for me, although I do think Margaret was out of control.
If I recall correctly, didn't Catherine call on Nostradamus a lot?
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Very interesting! I agree that she had a very hard life, especially childhood, and it's very sad that she pretty much outlived her sons. Her bashing of her daughter is a bit much for me, although I do think Margaret was out of control.
If I recall correctly, didn't Catherine call on Nostradamus a lot?
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Nostradamus owes much of his fame to Queen Catherine,he was consulted by the Queen in 1555 & several other occasions . When Catherine (now Queen-Regent) & her son Charles IX toured France in 1566 they paid a visit to him at Salon in Provence,he died a few moths later.Catherine also appointed Nostradamus as the King's Counselor and Physician-in-Ordinary to her son,Charles IX.
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