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Old 12-02-2013, 01:37 PM
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I think Sverre Magnus has not the title of Prince, or has not the predicate of HRH.
He is a Prince as per the Royal House of Norway,and is styled His Highness as I posted,always good to check these things before commenting.

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Old 12-02-2013, 02:00 PM
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He is a Prince as per the Royal House of Norway,and is styled His Highness as I posted,always good to check these things before commenting.

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The style His Highness is only for international use. He is not styled His Highness within Norway.

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Old 12-02-2013, 02:20 PM
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Sorry, but this is a message board. Over 90% of what is written on here are assumptions. You hardly ever get any evidence or hard facts on ANYTHING that is being discussed here concerning the Royals as they do not tend to confirm or comment on their issues. A vast majority of the topics being discussed on the forum are sourced by tabloids or gossip websites. Its up to you what you chose to believe as the varity has always been between sugary and nasty stuff. Just because something sounds nice 'they are so much in love' doesnt make it true. TRF has not started any rumours but only cites outlets like HELLO picking up on the topic, as they pick up on any other royal topic, positive or negative. Its the nature of their business. If you looking for hard facts or evidence you won't find much when it comes to Royal Families and their issues.
You're right, and it's still disgusting. There is a difference between speculating based on facts and imputing bad motives on everything based on some twisted view of the world. The latter is wrong and sad-and that's the point I'm trying to make.

This case is a perfect example.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:20 PM
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Open marriage? What are you talking about?!
I used the term "lucky" in a totally different way you obviously didn´t understand.

Obviously not.
Please explain.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:55 PM
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:34 PM
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Haven't posted in awhile (still read/lurk all the time, just out of the habit of posting), but this whole thing is...!

I'd be surprised if any of this is true, but I've been surprised before. I guess nothing's impossible. But mostly I'm struck by the fact that there's been dead silence from the royal house, especially when Haakon and MM have a history of jumping on things in the press that they don't like. It's possible that the royal house believes that a denial would only fan the flames, but I don't think the gossip can really get much worse. The strategy of remaining silent and hoping it dies down isn't really working here.

One thing this does demonstrate is why, for the most part, royals don't ever respond to the press/to gossip/to rumors/etc. Do it once, and then everytime something unpleasant is said in the future, people say, "Well, if you're not responding like that other time, it must be true." I've read that reasoning about Haakon and MM over and over again on various message boards in the last couple days.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:00 PM
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There are even names out there in some articles, like 'the rich norwegian businessman XXX' etc, I wonder why nobody comes forward from this end, dismissing the rumors and threatening to sue those websites who pick up on the issue. Its damaging, no question.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:25 PM
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I do not think that the Palace will make any denial announcement, because if it is true, they will be be stupid to lie, and if the rumour is false, it will collapse by itself.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:45 PM
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I'm also quite surprised by the complete silence from the norwegian royal court as Haakon and Mette Marit have never been afraid to sue the press but If it's true that she has has an affair but not true that they are going to separate the best option is to not say anything at all.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:08 PM
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I'm also quite surprised by the complete silence from the norwegian royal court as Haakon and Mette Marit have never been afraid to sue the press but If it's true that she has has an affair but not true that they are going to separate the best option is to not say anything at all.
It very well could be that lawyers and investigators are looking into all the defamatory press releases and building a case. Just because the public doesn't see or hear of a legal case in the works, it doesn't mean nothing is being done. I would imagine that the Norwegian Royal Family also feels that way about their private lives. It is really not the public's concern at this time. Should a case be brought before the court or something tangibly changes in the relationship of the CPC, the public would be informed after the fact.

Just my opinion of course.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:12 PM
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I really pray it is quite false !
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:26 PM
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The palace isn’t responding to this because there’s nothing to respond to. No one has presented any kind of evidence at all other than that they haven’t been seen together for a long time, which is ridiculous because we know why they haven’t been seen together.

And also if someone could provide some information to often Haakon and Mette-Marit have actually sued anyone then I would be really grateful, because as far as I know they have never sued anyone, at least not in Norway.

The royal palace has complained to the PFU, but that is not the same as suing someone. The PFU is a complaint commission that was created by Norwegian Press Association to make sure the ethical and professional standard in all Norwegian media is maintained.
It’s got nothing to do with the judicial system and there are no court cases or compensations as you would have with a law suit.
Most, if not all, Norwegian media are a member of the Norwegian Press Association and therefore follow the verdict given by the PFU if they find that they have violated the standards set by the Press Association.
Law suits are rare in Norway and you need good reasons to come through with them.

This whole thing is ridiculous and it’s a reason to why very few in Norway pay attention to this. I really wish people would have more decency and respect than to spread gossip and slander with no evidence or sources to back it up with. I guess some people get a strange satisfaction in slandering people that has done nothing to them and hopefully that is a satisfaction I’ll never understand.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:33 PM
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The palace isn’t responding to this because there’s nothing to respond to. No one has presented any kind of evidence at all other than that they haven’t been seen together for a long time, which is ridiculous because we know why they haven’t been seen together.

And also if someone could provide some information to often Haakon and Mette-Marit have actually sued anyone then I would be really grateful, because as far as I know they have never sued anyone, at least not in Norway.

The royal palace has complained to the PFU, but that is not the same as suing someone. The PFU is a complaint commission that was created by Norwegian Press Association to make sure the ethical and professional standard in all Norwegian media is maintained.
It’s got nothing to do with the judicial system and there are no court cases or compensations as you would have with a law suit.
Most, if not all, Norwegian media are a member of the Norwegian Press Association and therefore follow the verdict given by the PFU if they find that they have violated the standards set by the Press Association.
Law suits are rare in Norway and you need good reasons to come through with them.

This whole thing is ridiculous and it’s a reason to why very few in Norway pay attention to this. I really wish people would have more decency and respect than to spread gossip and slander with no evidence or sources to back it up with. I guess some people get a strange satisfaction in slandering people that has done nothing to them and hopefully that is a satisfaction I’ll never understand.
Very well put together post and very very sensible. Thank you for explaining to us how the PFU works in Norway and the guidelines that most of the press follow. The world I live in has lawsuits being filed at the drop of a hat. Perhaps more countries should follow Norway's examples.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:08 PM
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Yes thank you Cassandra for the Norweigan perspective. The only good that's come of this is a little more information about the Norweigan culture and practices, and that Sverre Magnus is not styled HRH, only his sister is, I guess the way the succession works.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:13 AM
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The style His Highness is only for international use. He is not styled His Highness within Norway.

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He is.!!As per birthright he is since his first scream HRH Prince Sverre Magnus.That is an absolute certainty as are all Royal offspring,certainly in Reigning Houses, due to their birth and has been so since centuries.Even in Norway!No forum member is going to change that
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:19 AM
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"Prince Sverre Magnus has been granted the style His Highness, unlike his elder sister, who is styled Her Royal Highness. The Prince is not a member of the Royal House of Norway. Furthermore, the Prince is normally referred to only as prins Sverre in Norwegian, whereas also the style His Highness is used in English."
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:53 AM
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All I know is that Mette Marit will be out of action for awhile, while she recovers from her neck injury. I can see how these rumours start. But I believe they are not true unless the injury is a cover story. But I doubt they would be that stupid to do something like that.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:26 AM
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He is.!!As per birthright he is since his first scream HRH Prince Sverre Magnus.That is an absolute certainty as are all Royal offspring,certainly in Reigning Houses, due to their birth and has been so since centuries.Even in Norway!No forum member is going to change that
Perhaps you should reread the announcement of 5 December 2005.

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Old 12-03-2013, 10:11 AM
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I'm also quite surprised by the complete silence from the norwegian royal court as Haakon and Mette Marit have never been afraid to sue the press but If it's true that she has has an affair but not true that they are going to separate the best option is to not say anything at all.

Totally wrong observation, HR! They never "sued" the tabloiud press for spreading rumours but made a complaint, as said above before, at the Norw Press Association when it came to protect their children´s privacy and savety. That´s something completely different!
The fact that this issue is being talked over and over again passionately on boards like this doesn´t mean it is an issue in "real life"
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:11 PM
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Totally wrong observation, HR! They never "sued" the tabloiud press for spreading rumours but made a complaint, as said above before, at the Norw Press Association when it came to protect their children´s privacy and savety. That´s something completely different!
The fact that this issue is being talked over and over again passionately on boards like this doesn´t mean it is an issue in "real life"
Thank you for correcting me there. My observation was indeed wrong there. I had only read headlines in the newspapers about that issue and were under the impression that they actually sued the press (don't think i'm the only one who thought that) but that was not correct and I understand the difference.
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